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mc25t190
08-25-2008, 02:44 PM
Just completed and appeared at 2008 Trans Am National this weekend. It won first in Class 2nd Gen. Just completed 3 year rotisserie restoration. The first time i saw the car in person was this weekend. I bought the car 3 years ago and never saw it. It went stright to CPR Musclecars, restored by Chuck Huber and Paul Cupp. They did an unbelievable job. The first and only Pontiac they have done.

mc25t190
08-25-2008, 02:45 PM
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08-25-2008, 02:46 PM
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mc25t190
08-25-2008, 02:50 PM
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mc25t190
08-25-2008, 02:52 PM
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Dave Rifkin
08-25-2008, 03:09 PM
What else can you say but, WOW!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

mc25t190
08-25-2008, 03:18 PM
Another 3, thanks !

mc25t190
08-25-2008, 03:20 PM
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YenkoYS-199Stinger
08-25-2008, 04:42 PM
I agree with Dave---WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

I have always loved the white/blue T/A's

Beautiful car.

CC Rider
08-25-2008, 04:43 PM
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Xplantdad
08-25-2008, 05:04 PM
Looks great Kevin. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

njsteve
08-25-2008, 05:19 PM
Awesome job. One of these years mine will be done...

Now what does your wife say about you using her nice towels for floor mats? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Dog427435
08-25-2008, 10:47 PM
Beautiful car!
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Bill Pritchard
08-25-2008, 10:56 PM
One fine lookin' Poncho there, Kevin http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

x Baldwin Motion
08-26-2008, 01:12 AM
great job!! but I'd really like to see the 67BM chevelle, even if it's still rusty!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

good luck http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

mc25t190
08-26-2008, 01:30 AM
This was the hardest and most expensive car i have ever had to restore. 1 of 88 ever made, 1 of 24 California cars, 1 of 15 4 speeds, 1 of 9 in white, 1 of how many with so few options. There were so many 1 off parts for this year it mamakes you sick. We short cut nothing so it was expensive. It has the correct Ram Air IV block, intake, California carburetor, head bolts, manifolds, radiator and it took 2 years to find the California gas tank. It was the biggest pain to restore that i wouldn't suggest anyone restoring a 1970 unless you have a lot of money or a donor car. It took 3 years and an awful lot of patience to restore. It is absolutely gorgeous and the first and last Pontiac Chuck and Paul will restore. If it weren't so rare and it wasn't me they wouldn't have done it. Thanks God it took BEST IN CLASS 2ND GENERATION at the TRANS AM NATIONALS! The Baldwin Motion car is soon to be started. I will update it when i get something done.

njsteve
08-26-2008, 02:10 AM
I can agree with you on the cost of restoring these 2nd gen cars. Even my lowly, commonplace 72 T/A (1 of 458 455HO 4-speeds) is getting pretty darn close to the 80% of six figure cost in the restoration already. And that's with me having done everything but the body.

They do look nice when done, though! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Congrats on the awards. Now drive the darn thing!

Norwood
08-26-2008, 03:15 AM
I don't think that he will be driving it Steve. But I would.....Congrats That is one HELL of a car. As is the Brewster that you beat out..I kind of like Blue ones.

Kevin if you could please post some engine compartment
shots. Thanks


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/lombard6-7006.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/photos/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/3053

x Baldwin Motion
08-26-2008, 03:20 AM
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Even my lowly, commonplace 72 T/A (1 of 458 455HO 4-speeds) is getting pretty darn close to the 80% of six figure cost in the restoration already.... Now drive the darn thing!

[/ QUOTE ] http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Steve, yours is a driver, right?

njsteve
08-26-2008, 05:39 AM
Absolutely. Everything I own/build is an over-restored driver. Otherwise it's just an expensive coffee table. You gotta excercise these monsters. (That and the fact that my trailer is 18 years old - makes me have to drive them around http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

owners2
08-26-2008, 06:58 AM
Looks really good.

TimG
08-27-2008, 12:28 AM
I've really fallen in love with these cars recently, I just got a similar (RA III with air) TA with red interior and it's stunning. It's amazing how much attention these car receive. Yours looks great.

mc25t190
08-27-2008, 04:21 AM
Thanks! I never thought a white car would show this well, but, the blue interior and stripes POPS!Check out the engine, a little blurry!

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08-27-2008, 04:21 AM
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Dave Rifkin
08-27-2008, 03:32 PM
Damn I don't think they looked that nice when they were brand new.

Johnny Horsepower
08-27-2008, 05:13 PM
Kevin, congrats! What a great car!!! Restoration looks awesome. (drive it anyway http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif)

One of my personal holy grail cars. If you need to give it away, all my Pontiacs have blue guts so it would feel right at home http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Enjoy that RAIV's................there is no substitute

John

enio45
08-28-2008, 07:47 AM
Kevin, congrats on the car - i saw the car at the CPR shop as it progressed over the years and each step of the way was fantastic.

Congrats again and good luck with the car...

Nice job CPR - Chuck and Paul!

Norwood
08-30-2008, 01:01 AM
Kevin, That fuel line and those brake lines are the talk of the Pontiac Trans Am community. May I suggest that you may want to change those items to the correct steel lines. Also I hear that some of the underhood gloss levels my not be correct. Mind you I have not seen your car in person, but this is what I have heard. Also remember if thats the only things that "the experts" can come up with than you are light years ahead of most out of the box restorations.

Atleast drive it around the block and fell that Pontiac RAIV POWER....

quick-bowtie
08-30-2008, 06:46 AM
Killer car Kevin... can I have it?

ddmrk
08-30-2008, 07:28 AM
Kevin
I feel your pain on restoring a 70 T/A ,your car looks Killer great job on the car !!!!

mc25t190
08-31-2008, 01:47 AM
I realize the air cleaner and heater box are too glossy, but, thats the way i like them. No offense taken and there are several opinions on the brake lines. The PY forum has a post on the 70-73 tech comments about what the AACA has to say about both. In the end we all have our own quirks and opinions as did the guys who worked on them years ago, different workers, different shifts, mondays and fridays, tired or not, who knows. The reason we show them, IMO, is so that we can discuss these types of things, is there a 100% right or wrong on some things, who knows, but, the guy paying the bills at the end has to be happy and i am. I will say that i have seen other cars different than the way i would do them, but, i like them too, just a difference in opinion or preference. Baskin and Robbins has 31 flavors of Ice Cream because not everyone like the same flavor, candy looks good and smells good, but, tastes different, depending on who you ask!

scorpio ps
08-31-2008, 07:10 AM
Kevin,, Great looking car. As for the Pontiac guys, send them some cheese to go with the whine. You give those guys a beautiful woman to do with as they please and they'll still complain. Again, great restoration.

PS. I have three Pontiacs and I will not complain. LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

mc25t190
08-31-2008, 03:16 PM
Thanks, i kinda like it myself!

njsteve
08-31-2008, 06:46 PM
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As for the Pontiac guys, send them some cheese to go with the whine. You give those guys a beautiful woman to do with as they please and they'll still complain.

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Because inevitably that beautiful woman will open her mouth and start talking. (I am able to type that because my beautiful wife is out shopping right now http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Awesome car. One of these decades I'll finish mine and we can run 'em. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

PhilS
09-01-2008, 04:34 AM
Very nice Kevin and a very difficult resto as you stated. These cars are my all time favorites to drive from the era.

scorpio ps
09-01-2008, 09:04 AM
NJSTEVE, You're a man of wisdom, And lots of courage. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

mmcporter
09-01-2008, 04:27 PM
WOW

mc25t190
09-07-2008, 06:41 AM
i bought a Lucerne Blue 4 speed car to go along side the Ram air IV that i can drive with A/C. Man does it pull strongly.I can't get over how much fun these cars are to drive. They squat whe you nail them and handle well for a 1970. These cars have definitely lagged behind and from what i can see there is no reason why.

Norwood
09-07-2008, 09:16 PM
Did you win the lottery? We just love pictures..

mc25t190
10-31-2008, 11:43 PM
Soon to be featured in Pontiac Enthusiast, photographed by Geoff Stunkard. Won 1st place Best of Class Generation 2, 1970-1974. Restored by Chuck Huber and Paul Cupp of CPR restorations in Pittsburgh, Pa.

mc25t190
12-08-2008, 05:55 AM
The KIND! Fuel lines and brake lines were corrected to give them the more dull look. I left the snorkel and the heater box glossy, our signature, right or wrong, who cares, it looks good.

mockingbird812
12-08-2008, 07:26 PM
I've seen Chuck and Paul's work up close and it is truly outstanding. Nice ride Kevin! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Norwood
12-09-2008, 04:30 AM
Kevin, do you know what ,month you car will be featured?