day 2 headers

[mr.4speed]

okay since nothing new lately lets start a new post of day two headers!
just picked these up vintage hedmen tri 5 headers same ones old project x used

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-12191-5864-photo_116.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-12191-5865-photo_112.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-12191-5866-photo_115.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-12191-5867-photo_114.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-12191-5868-photo_113.jpg

[mr.4speed]

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss232/russellta68/1957-Chevrolet-Project-X-Popular-Hot-Rodding-September-1966-1600x1200_zpsfad6b1a5.jpg

[Hemicolt]

Those are great.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Here are a pair of vintage Doug's 180 degree big block Mustang headers I recently picked up.

[mr.4speed]

Nice!

[mockingbird812]

Cyclones placed on my 70 Nova in 1970....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/70%20Roof%20Deuce/Restored%20Components/P1110835.jpg

[mr.4speed]

i think all headers should be white! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[Hemicolt]

Motion Performance headers for big block Vega.

[mr.4speed]

found another picture of mine from project x

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-12191-5878-photo_117.jpg

[mr.4speed]

and these took me all night to make!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-12191-5879-photo_118.jpg

[Salvatore]

Hey Russell, do you think that even motor started up? Those L-60's are still going strong on the camaro.

[1967Z28]

I think these came off a '57 Chevy. Not sure of the manufacturer.

[mr.4speed]

very cool!!

[olredalert]

----Love the T-bucket!!!! That really is great........Bill S

[Mr70]

Great photo Russell.

[Hawkeye]

NOS Cragar Hot Pypes

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-5526-5943-dsc02604.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-5526-5944-dsc02605.jpg

Sorry for the lousy photos.

Marty

[mockingbird812]

Sharp! What is the application?

[mr.4speed]

those are awesome!! looks like bbc dig the blue!

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hawkeye</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NOS Cragar Hot Pypes

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-5526-5943-dsc02604.jpg


Sorry for the lousy photos.

Marty
</div></div>

Is that the pair that was on ebay?

[Hawkeye]

The 1970 Action Performance catalog I have lists them as 64-69 Chevelle. They do have Cragar and the part number stamped into the flange. I look forward to seeing them redone. I think the blue will really set off an engine compartment. I just need to figure out the best refinish technique that lasts (paint or powder coat, etc.) and a paint match. Then, someone that is capable.

Yes, I got them off of ebay.

Thanks,
Marty

[Xplantdad]

Those are some sexy headers Marty...I like the curves <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[olredalert]

----They are good looking headers, Bruce but Marty should check out sparkplug access on those puppies as I remember them being tough to find a way around. I have several &quot;modified&quot; different tools I used with tight headers on big blocks.
----Marty,,,You may decide after a trial run that they just arent worth the hassle, but they would look great as garage wall art!!!.....Bill S

----Just remembered that peanut-plugs help a little.

[Hawkeye]

Bruce - Thank you for the compliment on the headers!

Bill - I appreciate the feedback. I didn't think of that when I bought them. Only was thinking of how cool they are.

Thanks,
Marty

[mockingbird812]

<span style="font-size: 14pt">They look like sinister writhing blue snakes! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif</span>

[Xplantdad]

Good point Bill...I still like 'em! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[Hawkeye]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">They look like sinister writhing blue snakes! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif</span></div></div>

Now I'm scared of them! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif


Marty

[Hawkeye]

Here is another set I would like to share. Jeff Murphy's ZL1 Camaro. I don't know who manufactured them or what they are called, but I think they look awesome. I love the color contrst against the all aluminum engine. The simply look great! These are the only photos I have. I think you can get a general idea of what they would look like off the car? Perhaps others can chime in on some details.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-5526-5977-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-5526-5978-image.jpg

[VintageMusclecar]

Look like M/T Super Scavenger (sp?)

[mr.4speed]

I 2nd that! bitchin!

[olredalert]

----I was about to say &quot;Mickies&quot;. Collectors are the giveaway. And in the spirit of this,,,Look at how the individual pipes come way out from the head almost straight, and then turn. These headers appear to be good for frequent plug checks. Very nice!.....Bill S

[Jeff Murphy]

Yes. Super Scavengers. They are equal length, so the ends of the pipes are staggered inside the long tube collectors, which is kinda of cool looking from underneath. The long tubes also make if seem like the exhaust is exiting right under the driver's seat which gives a great kick in the pants feeling. The other cool thing about these headers is that they turn dark, almost cherry or brick red, when the motor is running and then cool back to the orange seen in the pictures.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-663-5980-headers_2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-663-5981-headers_1.jpg

[Hawkeye]

Jeff,
Very cool. Thanks for filling us in.
Would love to sit in the passenger seat for a kick in the pants feeling some day.

Thanks,
Marty

[skierkaj]

Just curious- where did you have them coated? They look (to me anyways) like they're originals and not repros. The four bolt collector is a dead giveaway.

[marxjunk]

Anyone recognize these? very unique pass side, out of a 67 GTO
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/headers_zps5b7d149d.jpg (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/marxjunk/media/headers_zps5b7d149d.jpg.html)

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/headers1_zps8af2414f.jpg (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/marxjunk/media/headers1_zps8af2414f.jpg.html)

GS Club repops of M/Ts SS for a GS 455
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/hedders_zps030e3a08.jpg (http://s396.photobucket.com/user/marxjunk/media/hedders_zps030e3a08.jpg.html)

[steasley]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-11473-6093-016.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-11473-6094-018.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-11473-6095-019.jpg
kustom headers on my 69 Z

[scuncio]

Very cool. What number is stamped on the flanges?

[mr.4speed]

Those are sweet! Keep'em coming guys

[steasley]

B H 37 bought them off e bay about 13 years ago for around 45 dollars they had never been used.i was looking for headers that were not fit all generic when i came across them i recognized them from jerry's Z/28 book the left side one looks a little different but the right side looks the same other than the bolt on collectors.

[Hemicolt]

This is a set of Hooker Headers that were purchased new in '74. The silver paint is original and they have the Hooker logo etched around the collector several times.

[mr.4speed]

I dig the look of the weld seems! nice

[dl7265]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skierkaj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just curious- where did you have them coated? They look (to me anyways) like they're originals and not repros. The four bolt collector is a dead giveaway. </div></div>

X2, I was going to get mine orange ceramic coated, but locally they only do chrome, black and satin.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/534284/M_T_Super_Scavenger#Post534284


DL

[Hawkeye]

I'm going to bring this topic back to life.
Joe (ssl78396) shared pictures of these headers with me.
Here are a set of Bill Thomas C1 Corvette big block headers. Verified by the catalog pages from a 1969 Bill Thomas catalog.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9661-2014_02_12_003.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9662-2014_02_12_008.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9663-2014_02_12_013.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9664-2014_02_12_010.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9665-2014_02_12_014.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9666-dsc03364.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9667-dsc03365.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-5526-9668-dsc03368.jpg

Congrats again Joe on the great find.
I wish they were hanging on my garage wall.
I will let Joe fill any missing details from here.

Thanks,
Marty

[luzl78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeff Murphy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes. Super Scavengers. They are equal length, so the ends of the pipes are staggered inside the long tube collectors, which is kinda of cool looking from underneath. The long tubes also make if seem like the exhaust is exiting right under the driver's seat which gives a great kick in the pants feeling. The other cool thing about these headers is that they turn dark, almost cherry or brick red, when the motor is running and then cool back to the orange seen in the pictures.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-663-5980-headers_2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-663-5981-headers_1.jpg
</div></div>jeff, are these original headers or are they the ones made by bruce wright in Indiana?

[rat tuned]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-66-9904-647_1022269639911_1320318463_7
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-66-9905-647_1022269759914_1320318463_7

[ds1]

I am looking for a set of Belanger headers for first gen Camaro. Or any pictures I can use to make a set. Those M/T headers sound INCREDIBLE. I worked on a 71 GS 455 convertible with a set on, it had a 70 Stage 1 engine in it and all I wanted to do was idle around. The greatest sound I ever heard, and I am a Chevy guy.

[bbbentley]

Hooker 1st Gen. BB Camaro Comp. Headers. Close look reveals crankcase evacuation tubes on collectors.

[The Squid]

I got these a couple years ago on Ebay. They're NOS Cragar Hot Pipes for BBC 2nd Gen Camaro's. If the fitment works out in my 73 I'm gonna have them coated with the same blue color. Even if they don't fit I'll probably never sell them, just too cool!

http://i.cubeupload.com/1dynyP.jpg
http://i.cubeupload.com/zog4at.jpg
http://i.cubeupload.com/bnOTtK.jpg
http://i.cubeupload.com/Uwnilw.jpg
http://i.cubeupload.com/e5TUM5.jpg

[olredalert]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-66-9904-647_1022269639911_1320318463_7
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-66-9905-647_1022269759914_1320318463_7

-----Beautiful,,,A great set of Tubies (Tubular Automotive). The most radical headers out there as far as I am concerned!.......Bill S

[mockingbird812]

Love 'em. Don't blame you for not getting rid of them. Very cool look!

[68l30]

N.O.S late 70's early 80's Blackjack. These recently replaced a set I put on in 86?? Pretty decent set to last 31 years....

BIG

[NorCam]

Those Cragars are hands down "the" best looking header I've seen yet. Liking the Bill Thomas ones too!

[wheelhop]

Here's a few pics of my NOS blackjack headers that I'm installing on my chevelle this spring. They came painted white but I had them jet-coated white.

[mockingbird812]

Those look GREAT!!!!

[camino]

Here is another set I would like to share. Jeff Murphy's ZL1 Camaro. I don't know who manufactured them or what they are called, but I think they look awesome. I love the color contrst against the all aluminum engine. The simply look great! These are the only photos I have. I think you can get a general idea of what they would look like off the car? Perhaps others can chime in on some details.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-5526-5977-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-5526-5978-image.jpg

those are mickey thompson scavengers, i am currently looking for a set for my 68 day2 elcamino 396/375 see my thread:
http://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1346478#post1346478

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Here's a pair of Mickey Thompson Super Scavengers that I just picked up.

[chevyandpontiac]

They look like BB Chevelle, nice score.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

They look like BB Chevelle, nice score.

I'm almost certain they are Camaro 67-69

[mockingbird812]

There may be an alpha numeric stamping on the external side of the one of the flanges that attaches to the head. This code can help you deternine the application and when/where (there were several plants over the years) the header was made.

[NorCam]

Nice score on the headers Matt.

I wanted a set of those for my small block and had Nathan Schmitt fabricate a set for me. He bought the dies from Bruce Wright and is now re-making these again. Just picked them up from Montana yesterday and unpacked them last night. They look awesome and I can't wait to hear these on the new Crossram motor.

https://image.ibb.co/fi4xAS/IMG_8980.jpg

[chevyandpontiac]

The part number for the BBC camaro is 38763513. This may help identify them

[big gear head]

NorCam, you going to do a you tube video so we can hear them?

[L78M22Rag]

Those look terrific Graeme!

[NorCam]

NorCam, you going to do a you tube video so we can hear them?

Yes indeed Freddie. The new Stroker should sound killer with a big solid cam and the 11:4 compression. I have another motor to run in next week and then the 383 will be setup with the Crossram. Once the carbs are tuned, the cam is broken in and the springs are changed up to doubles, I'll install these headers and make a nice little video of it on the run stand. Likely around Mid May

[jerry455]

That would be awesome to hear that small block sing!
I have experience with the M/T Scavengers for a few Stage One Buicks back in 80's/90's- Nothing compares to that sound running uncorked with Hi-Po V8!
So if I can muster the funds for a set for '69 Z/28 in future, will they be easy to order since you paved the way as far as the R&D for these?
Do we call and ask for the Graeme Special??

[Bernhard]

Nice
I see you had the headers set up to run oxygen sensors
The orange coating looks sweet on the headers.

[NorCam]

That would be awesome to hear that small block sing!
I have experience with the M/T Scavengers for a few Stage One Buicks back in 80's/90's- Nothing compares to that sound running uncorked with Hi-Po V8!
So if I can muster the funds for a set for '69 Z/28 in future, will they be easy to order since you paved the way as far as the R&D for these?
Do we call and ask for the Graeme Special??

Nathan was excellent to deal with and I highly recommend you call him if or when you need a set of headers made. Don't know if he made a pattern for these or one off'd them but they sure are sweet (pardon the pun).

Yes Bernhard,

I sent him a set of bungs and he welded them in. I have an Innovative 02 scanner for reading air fuel at idle and cruise so I will use it when setting up the Crossram carbs.

[NorCam]

NorCam, you going to do a you tube video so we can hear them?

Uploading the video right now Freddie...

What I found really cool and had actually been forewarned about, was that the ceramic coat changes colors when you run them. They start out bright orange, go tomato red when being ran, and then they change back to orange as they cool. Now how cool is that?

https://image.ibb.co/kBAU9y/IMG_0360.jpg
Before being run...

https://image.ibb.co/gw5wpy/IMG_0371.jpg
And immediately after

[NorCam]

And here's the run video of the new 383 with the M/T style headers. Uncorked for now...

Love these pipes. :)

vG1uX-E57f8

[Xplantdad]

Those sound and look awesome!:headbang:

[big gear head]

COOL! That color change is great.

[Bernhard]

Nice
Top shelf from the engine run stand to the build!

[mockingbird812]

Sensational Graeme. Sounds sinister and stout!!!

[NorCam]

I'm waiting to hear yours run with those M/T's Sam.

That's gonna rock!

[69 Post Sedan]

I just picked up a couple sets of Day 2 headers. The guy I bought them from said they were off a 1964 GTO.

The black set is “MADE BY ED” headers.

I’m not sure who made the blue set but I was thinking Cragar but I don’t see a part number.

Kurt

[scuncio]

I have a set of Headers by Ed for a first-gen Camaro and they are just gorgeous.

Nice find. I don't believe Cragar ever made a header with a removable collector, so I'd guess they were made by someone else. Anything marked on the flanges?

[Postsedan]

Kurt,

Your headers need to go South of I-80 :)

Dan

[69 Post Sedan]

I looked all over the blue headers and didn’t find anything stamped on them anywhere. They are so clean, I thought for sure I’d find something.

[Bernhard]

I just picked up a couple sets of Day 2 headers. The guy I bought them from said they were off a 1964 GTO.

The black set is “MADE BY ED” headers.

I’m not sure who made the blue set but I was thinking Cragar but I don’t see a part number.

Kurt

Nice find. Headers by Ed Very Nice!

[smallblockhero]

i picked up these brand new Appliance headers from a guy that RobR knew... for a big block corvette.. very nice shape. going to send them for ceramikote as well...

[69 Post Sedan]

I purchased these BBC headers from Chris Clark recently. We both thought they were Appliance because they looked exactly like ones for sale here on the Yenko site.

But when I looked up the part number on my headers, they were different than the Appliance headers, which were CH22. Mine are stamped 5022.

chevyandpontiac (Dan) looked up my part number and mine are actually Blackjack headers...so apparently, one company made headers for multiple companies.

Just thought it was an interesting story.

Mine are out of the way until I decide if I’m going to use them or not.

Here is the ad for the Appliance Headers https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135872

Kurt

[earntaz]

Its been awhile -- but I seem to remember Appliance Industries made the Blackjack headers ... TAZ

[bbbentley]

Its been awhile -- but I seem to remember Appliance Industries made the Blackjack headers ... TAZ

I always understood these two company’s to be one and the same. Appliance, I thought, evolved into Blackjack? I may be totally off, but I have owned both brands. Back in the late 70s ( I was only 3, mind you(age joke)), I worked at a speed shop. We sold Blackjack headers. I read every car magazine I could get my hands on, at the time. I don’t recall ever hearing about Appliance being advertised or used in the late 70s. Again, just my recollection, not a known fact. It has me believing one evolved to the other.

[rszmjt]

I always understood these two company’s to be one and the same. Appliance, I thought, evolved into Blackjack? I may be totally off, but I have owned both brands. Back in the late 70s ( I was only 3, mind you(age joke)), I worked at a speed shop. We sold Blackjack headers. I read every car magazine I could get my hands on, at the time. I don’t recall ever hearing about Appliance being advertised or used in the late 70s. Again, just my recollection, not a known fact. It has me believing one evolved to the other.


I think you are 100% correct. I worked at a local speed shop in Calgary in 1974/75 ( JB Auto ) and we sold & installed many Appliance headers, I had several sets myself , the first Appliance headers had welded non rotating collector flanges, later versions had the loose flanges. I noticed that Blackjack took over later 70,s/ early 80,s and later versions were alumicoated ?

I still have a set of 67-69 Camaro 302/350 #CH3 (2802) Appliance headers, very equal length nice fitting headers, 1&3/4” primary. I also used a set of Appliance headers on my 68 396/375 car back then. Appliance always seemed to fit nicer than Hooker headers & others back then, usually no modifications. JMO.

[69 Post Sedan]

I just picked up these NOS, in the box, SBC Blackjack headers for 1963-1982 Corvette. They even came with all the hardware, decal and instructions.

Kurt

[cook_dw]

Anyone know what vehicle these go on?

76288 is the stamped number.

[scuncio]

I have a catalog at home, will look

[69 Post Sedan]

Definitely looks like Mickey Thompson Super Scavanger Headers. Here are some part numbers that I found but I don’t see 76288.

Kurt

[BACKN 68]

Chevelle S/S 1965-68 396-427 PN 3876288

Based on the information/photos I've collected over the years - the shape of your headers look "dead-on" for original Chevelle. NICE SCORE!!!

Note: If I didn't already have a set being made for me by Nathan (Sweet Ave Fabrication) - I'd be drooling over these!!

Kent
'68 Malibu ZZ502/502

[cook_dw]

Thanks for the info!!

[big gear head]

Can I ask for some ID too? I brought home 2 sets today and I'd like to know what they fit and what brand they are. One set is small block with super long tubes and the other set is big block with large tubes. Small block flanges are stamped 1892 559A. I can't make out everything on the big block flanges, so I'l posting the picturtes.

[69 Post Sedan]

Freddie,

The big block headers are Hooker Super Competition, part number 2201

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hok-2201hkr

Kurt

[big gear head]

Thanks Kurt. Seems like an odd application. Not many people putting big blocks in late '50s early '60s Chevys.

[big gear head]

Any ideas about what the small block headers are?