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Charley Lillard
07-12-2014, 01:33 AM
This is a early call out for 2015 MCACN. The goal is to get all the Hemi Cuda and Hemi Challenger converts we can for the largest gathering of them ever. I have no idea how many have ever been in one place at the same time but with all the attention on the recent sale of one this should be a great display. If you have one you are invited. Please get ahold of Bob Ashton or me. It really is a chance to be a part of something special and the car world will appreciate the chance to see a bunch of them in one spot. We had 19 ZL1's a couple years ago, can we beat that ?

Tracker1
07-12-2014, 11:56 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13646-11426verts2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13647-7118900_bs27r1b269563.jpg


The 12 1971 E74 'Cudas - including the third French export car in a pic from the 1970s. Car no longer exists, but has been "cloned". It was also white with black billboards originally like the other white French export.

Tracker1
07-12-2014, 12:08 PM
Incredibly, a whopping 5 of the 1970 Hemicuda convertible were TX9 BLACK.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13650-159521.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13651-blakestx9vert2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13652-tx9vert.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13653-tx9vert2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13654-tx9vert3.jpg

Tracker1
07-12-2014, 12:14 PM
And the most popular color for the 1970 Hemi Challenger 'Vert? - FC7 Purple. There were 5

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13655-robson70.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13656-blake70.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13657-dupree70.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13658-1970dodgechallenger.jpg

69hurstSC
07-15-2014, 01:21 PM
Wasn't there only 1 billboard 71 Hemi vert?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13646-11426verts2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-3497-13647-7118900_bs27r1b269563.jpg


The 12 1971 E74 'Cudas - including the third French export car in a pic from the 1970s. Car no longer exists, but has been &quot;cloned&quot;. It was also white with black billboards originally like the other white French export.</div></div>

Tracker1
07-16-2014, 01:39 AM
[quote=69hurstSC]Wasn't there only 1 billboard 71 Hemi vert?

Nah. 3... I believe, but some have had them added since

protree68
11-17-2014, 01:45 AM
It's too bad this year wasn't the hemi cudas since it's the 50th anniversary of the hemi

bashton
11-19-2014, 12:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: protree68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's too bad this year wasn't the hemi cudas since it's the 50th anniversary of the hemi </div></div>

Believe me...nobody will be disappointed with our HEMI Anniversary display this year. 1964-1971 is covered with the best of the best and some trul unexpected treasures.

BTW; we do have the '71 Hemi 'Cuda convertible that was recently sold by our Title Sponsor The Mecum Auction Company. It will greet you right up front.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

72heavychevy
12-25-2014, 05:31 PM
How many 1971 Hemi Challenger convertibles are still around?

I know there is a real one here in my town. The owner (he's had it since the late 70's) says it was one of 9 built, and one of 3 still known to exist.

njsteve
12-25-2014, 07:51 PM
Easy answer. Zero. There were no 1971 hemi-equipped Challenger ragtops built by Dodge. The 426 Hemi was only available in the 1970 Challenger R/T ragtop. The reason was that there was no Challenger R/T convertible option available in 1971. You could get a big block in a base Challenger ragtop (the 383/300 horsepower engine) but you could not get an R/T ragtop, therefore no 426 Hemi in a 1971 ragtop Challenger. So, the 9 number was the total 1970 models for US production and 3 more for export.

So your buddy's car must be a 1970 if it is a real car. Got any photos? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

72heavychevy
12-26-2014, 12:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Easy answer. Zero. There were no 1971 hemi-equipped Challenger ragtops built by Dodge. The 426 Hemi was only available in the 1970 Challenger R/T ragtop. The reason was that there was no Challenger R/T convertible option available in 1971. You could get a big block in a base Challenger ragtop (the 383/300 horsepower engine) but you could not get an R/T ragtop, therefore no 426 Hemi in a 1971 ragtop Challenger. So, the 9 number was the total 1970 models for US production and 3 more for export.

So your buddy's car must be a 1970 if it is a real car. Got any photos? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif </div></div>

Thanks for the info! I haven't seen the car in a few years, I didn't remember if it was a 1970 or 71, so I guess you answered that for me <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

I took a bunch of pictures at the time, I'll see if I can find them and upload them in the next few days! He actually had a pair, a hardtop and vert, both real '70 Hemi Challengers. I don't know him well but we talked at the show for awhile as it was a very small, local show and my dad and I had never seen the cars before. He was extremely nice and said he doesn't take the cars out much. The convertible was originally sublime but he repainted it long ago in plum crazy to match his hardtop.

So do we know how many of the 1970 Hemi Challenger convertibles are accounted for?

njsteve
12-26-2014, 01:45 AM
I believe there was one that was a sublime green ragtop. Are you sure he didn't sell it a few years ago? I recall someone telling me about a (then) recent acquisition of a sublime hemi ragtop a while back.

72heavychevy
12-27-2014, 01:47 AM
He could have, I have not seen the car or talked with him in a few years. I only saw the car a couple times and he was very sentimental to it, but he was getting up there in age. Do you have any more info about that car you heard about? The car was in the Kansas City area if that rings any bells.

Tracker1
12-27-2014, 07:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe there was one that was a sublime green ragtop. Are you sure he didn't sell it a few years ago? I recall someone telling me about a (then) recent acquisition of a sublime hemi ragtop a while back. </div></div>

There were two sublime challengers built.

and 69hurst you are right, there was only 1 '71 cuda built with billboards, I was incorrect in saying the export French cars had billboards.http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-3497-19974-limelight70.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-3497-19975-downer.jpg

THIS CAR'S SHAKER HOOD WAS ADDED, NOT ORIGINALLY EQUIPPED...

72heavychevy
12-30-2014, 03:38 PM
Well, unfortunately I cannot find the pictures I took at the show a few years back. I had a hard-drive failure a couple years ago and I'm afraid the pictures might have gone with it. However, I did find one picture of the car online. I immediately knew it was his car because of the display board you can see in the background.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk178/Superredline/Car%20Shows/1970426HemiChallengerConvertible_zps5f1840c3.jpg

Tracker1
12-31-2014, 12:15 AM
that car was Limelight FJ5?

72heavychevy
12-31-2014, 11:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that car was Limelight FJ5? </div></div>

Yes, that's what was told to me. It had a good quality respray from the 1980's but you could still see the Limelight color in the trunk and door gaps. He had a hardtop '70 Challenger in Plum Crazy and painted this to match.

Ryan1969Chevelle
01-01-2015, 05:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Easy answer. Zero. There were no 1971 hemi-equipped Challenger ragtops built by Dodge. The 426 Hemi was only available in the 1970 Challenger R/T ragtop. The reason was that there was no Challenger R/T convertible option available in 1971. You could get a big block in a base Challenger ragtop (the 383/300 horsepower engine) but you could not get an R/T ragtop, therefore no 426 Hemi in a 1971 ragtop Challenger. So, the 9 number was the total 1970 models for US production and 3 more for export.

So your buddy's car must be a 1970 if it is a real car. Got any photos? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif </div></div>

Looks like the only one is for sale:-)

Ryan
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-13277-20097-img_20150101_005709.jpg

njsteve
01-01-2015, 11:53 AM
&quot;Documented by Chrysler&quot;...yeah, but documented as what? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

It's about as documented as a 1970 L89 Nova convertible. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Tracker1
01-01-2015, 03:27 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 72heavychevy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that car was Limelight FJ5? </div></div>

Yes, that's what was told to me. It had a good quality respray from the 1980's but you could still see the Limelight color in the trunk and door gaps. He had a hardtop '70 Challenger in Plum Crazy and painted this to match. </div></div>

so he still has it? it is still purple?

72heavychevy
01-03-2015, 03:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 72heavychevy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that car was Limelight FJ5? </div></div>

Yes, that's what was told to me. It had a good quality respray from the 1980's but you could still see the Limelight color in the trunk and door gaps. He had a hardtop '70 Challenger in Plum Crazy and painted this to match. </div></div>

so he still has it? it is still purple? </div></div>

I haven't seen the car in a few years so I'm not sure if he has it or not, njsteve (from above posts) thought he had heard of a car being found that was originally sublime so that's why all of this came into question. If he does still have it I bet it's still purple, he had no intentions of painting or restoring the car at the time because it was in good driver condition.

bashton
01-23-2015, 02:04 PM
This special gathering is truly going to be beyond belief. I had several very interesting meetings while out in AZ and confirmed even more that I will announce later. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

I can assure you, this alone will be worth the price of admission! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

bashton
03-17-2015, 01:20 AM
I am very pleased to announce that the Blake family out of Phoenix, AZ. will be joining us with not just one, not even two, but FOUR of their Hemi E-body convertibles! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

I have said I before and I am sure I will say it again...MCACN just keeps getting better and better!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Xplantdad
03-17-2015, 04:17 AM
Awesome!

bashton
07-14-2015, 04:41 PM
Over the past few weeks I have had the honor of photographing, riding in, and in several cases, driving SEVEN different '70 and '71 Hemi 'Cuda converts and TWO Hemi Challenger converts. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

Yes...life is good!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Ryan1969Chevelle
07-14-2015, 04:56 PM
Can I apprentice under you Bob?

How do I get a &quot;job&quot; like that?

Ryan

Tracker1
07-15-2015, 12:58 AM
This is gonna be EPIC!!!!!!!!

Ryan1969Chevelle
07-15-2015, 02:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is gonna be EPIC!!!!!!!! </div></div>

Looking forward to meeting Des!!

Ryan

Tracker1
07-15-2015, 10:47 AM
You know it Ryan!

bashton
07-23-2015, 02:56 PM
Pleased to announce the new total is...(drum roll)...25!

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Tracker1
07-24-2015, 11:44 AM
Well done Bob!!!

I hope the new owner of this one chooses to bring it to MCACN - what a piece of history.

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/CA0815-225244/0/1970-Plymouth-Hemi-Cuda-Convertible/Automatic/

Charley Lillard
07-24-2015, 01:06 PM
Yes we intend to invite the black car also. Having 25 of these cars together has never happened before. That is probably double what has ever been done. This is gonna be really cool.

Charley Lillard
07-24-2015, 01:12 PM
When I started this thread I said &quot;We had 19 ZL1's a couple years ago, can we beat that ?&quot;

Why yes we can...................

cudino
07-25-2015, 03:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Having 25 of these cars together has never happened before. That is probably double what has ever been done. </div></div>
I think the record is 9. That was in 2005 at the Mopars at the Strip show in Las Vegas. At the time it was a huge deal, but you're actually getting very close to <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">tripling</span></span> that record!

- Wade

Charley Lillard
07-25-2015, 03:47 AM
Nobody has ever seen this many before. I'm starting to pinch myself. This really has evolved into a big deal.

Charley Lillard
07-25-2015, 03:49 AM
I'm thinking if you place a average value 2 mil each on 25 cars you are looking at 50Mil in one spot. That has never happened at a musclecar show.

Xplantdad
07-25-2015, 12:49 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking if you place a average value 2 mil each on 25 cars you are looking at 50Mil in one spot. That has never happened at a musclecar show. </div></div>

And THAT is why the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals is the place to be in November! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

Canuck
07-25-2015, 05:58 PM
I am cancelling my Hotel room and volinteer to sleep on the floor at the show with these cars.

69hurstSC
07-27-2015, 02:01 PM
Maybe just some of the workers on the assembly line but that would be it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nobody has ever seen this many before. I'm starting to pinch myself. This really has evolved into a big deal. </div></div>

cudino
07-27-2015, 05:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nobody has ever seen this many before. I'm starting to pinch myself. This really has evolved into a big deal. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe just some of the workers on the assembly line but that would be it. </div></div>
I'm sure there are folks who've seen more than I have, but I went through my list and I've had the good fortune of laying eyes on 27 of 'em firsthand. However, there are a couple attending this upcoming show that even I've never seen before, they rarely come out, so this really is something special.
- Wade

markinnaples
07-28-2015, 08:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Over the past few weeks I have had the honor of photographing, riding in, and in several cases, driving SEVEN different '70 and '71 Hemi 'Cuda converts and TWO Hemi Challenger converts. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

Yes...life is good!
</div></div>

And how were they to drive???

bashton
08-04-2015, 01:54 PM
In commemoration of this incredible happening, we will be producing a very special and <span style="font-weight: bold">VERY Limited Edition</span> hardcover book. This book will have several pages devoted to each of the participating cars and it is 100% devoted to them. The stories and history makes for some pretty interesting reading!

More on this later! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

mockingbird812
08-04-2015, 01:59 PM
smart move Bob. This'll be a keeper and likely not to ever be duplicated (getting so many in one spot at the same time). I suggest, when you get them all together, some outdoors pix to really show off these incredible rides in better lighting than inside the venue.

bashton
08-04-2015, 02:02 PM
I am actually working on the book now, and it will be available at the show. Contributors include Wade Ogle and noted photographer/author Randy Leffingwell!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

olredalert
08-04-2015, 03:16 PM
----Very, very cool, Bob!!!!! Im in for one.....Bill S

Tracker1
08-05-2015, 02:47 AM
When they were just cars...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29943-8451655_rcode.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29944-dupont71.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29945-7118900_bs27r1b269563.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29946-blakestx9vert2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29947-britishsteelfc7.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29948-cib70hemicudarag.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29949-nick.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29950-robsonb5.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-3497-29951-ogle_pre.jpg

njsteve
08-07-2015, 04:23 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-1359-30113-71cuda1a.jpg

Xplantdad
08-07-2015, 07:35 PM
One of my favorite pics!

njsteve
08-07-2015, 08:09 PM
Thanks. I have two, 2-inch-thick albums of photos of the yellow car in as-purchased condition, during disassembly/documentation process, and through the restoration.

And we have an attack-trained Jack-huahua (or is that a Chih-Russell?) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif guarding them.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-1359-30152-img_1239.jpg


The albums really should be with the car. Back in 1987 when I sold the car to Otis Chandler, neither he nor Greg Joseph seemed all that interested in the photos. So I kept them to keep them from being thrown away.

Charley Lillard
08-07-2015, 10:39 PM
You can put them in the trunk at mcacn

Ryan1969Chevelle
08-07-2015, 11:37 PM
Some people would pay heaps for those books:-)

Ryan

njsteve
08-08-2015, 12:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some people would pay heaps for those books:-)

Ryan </div></div>


Well, I do have a daughter in college who could use some help with her student loan. (and it's a state school so it wouldn't be that expensive) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

I even have an extra broadcast sheet! - the car had several of them. (this is a low-res black and white scan of the original color sheet so it doesn't get copied too easily)

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-1359-30180-bs27r1_bcast_.jpg

Ryan1969Chevelle
08-08-2015, 01:19 AM
That should pay tuition for the fall!!!

Ryan

njsteve
08-08-2015, 06:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can put them in the trunk at mcacn </div></div>

LOL.

Sadly, I don't think I can go this year due to the aforementioned smarty-pants daughter who wants to continue to attend college. I can't give her too much grief, though. She is double majoring with an additional minor - and she does have a 3.7 GPA going into her Junior year). And she plays rugby - quite a switch from her former HS cheerleading days!


Anyone have a well-to-do, eligible bachelor son around here? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

jas1973
11-19-2015, 07:51 PM
Just read on the cuda Challenger FB page that one of the hemi convertibles won't be there and it is not in this bunch. It apparently is a Canadian 70 Challenger vert that still sits in Ontario...

njsteve
11-19-2015, 08:57 PM
Do you have a link to that FB page?