My 1967 Firebird 400

[RAII4speed]

Here are a few pictures of my 1967 Firebird 400.
I bought this car from my neighbor when I was 17 years old.
Yes I still own it and have had it for 40+ years now.
Let me know your thoughts
THANKS

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[mockingbird812]

Man, that is a great looking ride. Great colors and ownership for 40+ years <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif

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[Charley Lillard]

When I was young there was one car that really grabbed me and it was the 67 400 bird with a hood tach. Cool car.

[olredalert]

----Love the car and used to visit the dealership back in the day. I think it was Seacrest that I tried to buy a 74 Super Duty at. Then I just couldn't wrap my mind around the design changes for 74. Wish I had bought it now!.......Bill S

[RAII4speed]

My Firebird was bought at Seacreat .... They actually sold a lot of HP cars back in the day . <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Dave Rifkin]

Love it; great color combination. The only way to make that car better (for me) would be if it was a 4 speed.

[RAII4speed]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Love it; great color combination. The only way to make that car better (for me) would be if it was a 4 speed. </div></div>
I agree...BUT my neighbor was in her late 50's when she bought this car new....She actually ordered it burgundy exterior with red interior and they would NOT build it...she had to re-order the car with white interior and she added the white top...I actually have paperwork from both orders she placed.

[StealthBird]

Beautiful car! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Looks like Regimental Red, and has a long list of great options.

If you're interested, I can do an accurate reproduction window sticker for you. Those PHS versions miss a lot of details.

Would love to see the original order for this car! Does she recall why they wouldn't build it with a red interior? Dark red with a red interior is not unique, but unusual. The manufacturers would build anything you wanted back then, even clashing colors, as long as put a deposit down.

http://www.musclecarfilms.com/PontiacWindowSticker.html

Mike

[njsteve]

Very nice! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[RAII4speed]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StealthBird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beautiful car! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Looks like Regimental Red, and has a long list of great options.

If you're interested, I can do an accurate reproduction window sticker for you. Those PHS versions miss a lot of details.

Would love to see the original order for this car! Does she recall why they wouldn't build it with a red interior? Dark red with a red interior is not unique, but unusual. The manufacturers would build anything you wanted back then, even clashing colors, as long as put a deposit down.

http://www.musclecarfilms.com/PontiacWindowSticker.html

Mike

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It is NOT regimental red it is burgundy. and they would not build it..
I will take pics of the paperwork and either post it here or send it to you...what do you think is the best way to do it?
THANKS
Thanks for the offer on the window sticker but I will most likely sell this car soon, possibly Spring time.

[Woj]

Gorgeous car. Great color combo. Something like this has been on my bucket list for some time.

Thanks for posting the pix and story.

Phil Woj.

[StealthBird]

I would love to see paperwork about Pontiac not willing to build the car. I don't know what their reasoning would be. Did they give a reason at the time why they wouldn't build it?

If you could, please post here, or if it's easier to send via e-mail, my e-mail is [email protected]. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Postsedan]

Love it......THANKS FOR SHARING.

Dan

[Tenney]

Cool car. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[442w30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RAII4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She actually ordered it burgundy exterior with red interior and they would NOT build it...she had to re-order the car with white interior and she added the white top...I actually have paperwork from both orders she placed.
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That's interesting, as it seems burgundy/red is a recommended combination (at least for 1968):

http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=4938

The website didn't have the 1967 info because it was a mid-year offering. Burgundy is &quot;N.&quot;

[RAII4speed]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RAII4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She actually ordered it burgundy exterior with red interior and they would NOT build it...she had to re-order the car with white interior and she added the white top...I actually have paperwork from both orders she placed.
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That's interesting, as it seems burgundy/red is a recommended combination (at least for 1968):

http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=4938

The website didn't have the 1967 info because it was a mid-year offering. Burgundy is &quot;N.&quot; </div></div>

Yes you are correct for 1968 BUT in 1967 she could not get it..... I will post the order forms as soon as I can scan them showing she had to re-order the car.

[StealthBird]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RAII4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes you are correct for 1968 BUT in 1967 she could not get it..... I will post the order forms as soon as I can scan them showing she had to re-order the car.
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Well, please post the documents when you can. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

You had originally said that she ordered it with a burgundy exterior with red interior and they would not build it, implying there was something wrong with the color combo, but now I think your saying that Burgundy wasn't available, or it was a midyear offering.

The 1967 Firebirds debuted on February 23rd 1967, so it was already a mid-year car to start with. Burgundy was an RPO color on the 1967 Firebird, so I'm thinking there must be some other reason they would not build the car for her.

And yes, it's a beautiful car! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[RAII4speed]

&quot; but now I think your saying that Burgundy wasn't available, or it was a midyear offering.&quot;

your thoughts are wrong.... I never implied that .... I am stating a fact, it was ordered Burgandy with red interior and they would not build it for her. I have the paperwork to show that. I will post it when I get a chance.

[x11d80]

Great car and color <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[68l30]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif Great Looking Bird.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif



BIG

[442w30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RAII4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> it was ordered Burgandy with red interior and they would not build it for her. I have the paperwork to show that. I will post it when I get a chance.
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Yeah, that's pretty interesting considering the info Mike posted also shows burgundy/red to be a factory recommended color.

Looking forward to seeing the paperwork!

[flyingn]

pretty firebird.. Great story too

[twertsy]

Nice car. I still have my '67 Bird I bought in '82. Very cool.

[bluesman77]

<span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">That's a beautiful car! I ordered my '67 Firebird 400 when I was 19 and still have it (just shy of 48 years). I drove mine in the street for about a year and drag raced it on weekends. Eventually I got to the point where I flat towed to the races and stopped driving it on the street. I think I have about 10,000 miles and it was driven in the rain maybe two or three times and never saw snow/salt. I got into motorcycles in '71 and the car has been in storage ever since. I'm in the process of returning it to stock and your photos will be a big help for me under the hood as I made lots of changes and forgot how things should look. Mine is black w/ the deluxe black interior, 400 converted to Ram Air, close ratio 4-speed w/ 4:33 gears. Non-power disc brakes and manual steering. Anyway - I really enjoyed seeing your car.

Jim</span>

[bigsixman]

The early firebirds are nice cars. I had a 68 firebird 400 HO back in 1969 with a M-21, 3.90 gears that was red with a black vinyl top and black deluxe interior. Looking at your car sure brings back some nice memories of that car.

You have a beautiful car and you should be very proud of it. I have enjoyed the entire thread.

[Charley Lillard]

Bluesman...Post some pics. Cool car and great that you still have it.

[iluv69s]

I love them first gen birds... under priced and underated I think !!

Ive had a bunch of old firebirds over the years ...unfortunately, mostly cars that I parted out including a Ram Air 69 coupe...a driving 69 vert..hugger orange,white gut and white top..an all original muncie 4 speed car too...I still have the plastic protecto-plate for that car !! Hated to part it out, but it was a NE car that spent a lot of time near the beach...it looked like a spaghetti strainer underneath!!..also had a bunch of others I drove including a 67 coupe that had an L-88 4 speed...what a monster !!
I definitly like the 69's way better than the 67-8's...never liked that full bumper look..

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[StealthBird]

Some are underpriced, but collectors began scooping these up around 10 years ago, and prices have climbed. Nicely restored 1969 Firebird 400 hardtops are now in the $35K+ range, ragtops in the $40K-$90K range. Real Ram Air cars rarely change hands. 1969 Trans Am's fetch around $80K, with RAIV versions $100K+.

1969 Firebird RAIV convertibles are extremely rare, and the only one sold in recent years went for $286,000.

More info on these rare cars are here: http://www.musclecarfilms.com/1969PontiacRAIVconvertibles.html

I'm a bit of a fan of the 1969's myself. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bluesman77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered my '67 Firebird 400 when I was 19 and still have it (just shy of 48 years). I drove mine in the street for about a year and drag raced it on weekends. Eventually I got to the point where I flat towed to the races and stopped driving it on the street. I think I have about 10,000 miles and it was driven in the rain maybe two or three times and never saw snow/salt. </div></div>

Cool history.

That is exactly the same back story with our '65 GTO (in storage since '74 with 4900 miles). Nice to hear there are others like this out there.

K

[RAII4speed]

Keith, We know each other from another site.... I also own the one owner unrestored 1965 GTO convertible tri-power 4-speed car as well.


That is exactly the same back story with our '65 GTO (in storage since '74 with 4900 miles). Nice to hear there are others like this out there.

K
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[SuperNovaSS]

I'd love to see pictures of this factory order denial paperwork.


Jason

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RAII4speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here are a few pictures of my 1967 Firebird 400.
I bought this car from my neighbor when I was 17 years old.
Yes I still own it and have had it for 40+ years now.
Let me know your thoughts
THANKS

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I have the 1967 Chevrolet equivalent, an RS/SS396 with Th-400. Love the &quot;country club cruiser&quot; aspect of these cars with the added punch under the hood. Love the colors on your Firebird--love the whole car.

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[Plowman]

Both cars all I can say is gorgeous and thank you,

[x11d80]

Love the color combo, very nice indeed. My brother In-Law has a covt. in green and white, he's owned since High School 35 years. Its all there and looks awesome.