1970 L78 Camaro

[Seattle Sam]

FYI I am consigning my Cortez Silver L78 to Mecum Seattle June 5 and 6 (Lot # S59.1). Pictures can be seen on Mecum's site, contact me with any questions.

Thanks,
Seattle Sam

[Tracker1]

Looks cool! Not much info on the site. Original engine? Paperwork? L78 stamped Norwood trim tag or LOS car? Original panels?

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/04/full-3497-25134-camaro.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/04/full-3497-25135-camarol78.jpg

[Salvatore]

man that is a nice car!

[GaryS]

Gorgeous car! What are you trying to get for that car? I have a friend that loves the 2nd gen cars.

[bayfritz]

I thought all items had to priced?

[Seattle Sam]

Tracker1,
Mecum has still not uploaded all the info. It is a Norwood, L78 stamped car I bought out of Chicago. No paperwork although the NCRS paper is on order.
Car was fully restored when I got it, not sure which if any panels are original. Matching number engine and trans. Smog comes in the trunk.
This is an older restoration. Paint is shiny and looks good but you can see more than one color on the car if you look close. Underneath is clean.
This car is sorted to drive, I rebuilt the engine with a roller cam and roller tipped rockers for cam longevity. Still original compression and correct square port heads, pop-up pistons and steel crank. Correct carb, distributor, etc.

Seattle Sam

[Seattle Sam]

GaryS and bayfritz,
I wasn't certain that rule applied to cars going to auction. If you're interested in buying pre-auction, my price is $65,000.
Thanks,
Seattle Sam

[Stefano]

This car belonged to Gary Dyer at one point of Dyer Blowers and Mr. Norm's race car fame. He restored it and rebuilt the drive train and showed it at local Chicago Car shows.

[GenOne]

Love this car ...

[MN 70L78]

Looks Nice Sam, hope it does well at the auction! These cars have always been undervalued IMHO... you rarely ever see one! I've owned mine since 1991 and hadn't seen another one till 2005 when I traveled to the GM Nats in Carlisle.

[CamarosRus]

Scott, Come on out to attend this MECUM auction and we can "PARTY" in Seattle .............

[Xplantdad]

Good luck Sam...beautiful Camaro!

[luzl78]

Darren had a beautiful one. Blue on blue.

[Seattle Sam]

LOL sounds good Chuck!

[Seattle Sam]

Luzl78,
I was lucky to get a ride in Darren's car - it had a special motor, L72 I believe?

[MN 70L78]

Scott, Come on out to attend this MECUM auction and we can "PARTY" in Seattle .............

Sorry Chuck, I have other plans that weekend already

[NWYENKO]

Chuck,I hope it is better than Kansas City. There were 89 corvettes, mostly 80's & 90's. 45 or so Mercedes. One of the 69 Camaro copos bid to 75k no sale. There were a lot of "replicas", " tribute" cars. The quality of prior auction was not there. I think the market for auctions might be reaching saturation. One of the trucking companies told me there are now about 55 collector car auctions. I talked to one of the buyers and Reliable(on site) told him 3-5 weeks before they could take his car out. Also the crowd was very light, apparently without much money. Jim

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seattle Sam</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Luzl78,
I was lucky to get a ride in Darren's car - it had a special motor, L72 I believe? </div></div>

Me, too....I think it was an LS6 at one point <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

[SS427]

Yep, it was an LS6. I think it had been returned to an L78 by the time I drove it but could be wrong.

[Seattle Sam]

Jim, not sure why I didn't see your post earlier. Last year was the first time Mecum came to Seattle. Hopefully there will be good attendance and action this year..

Seattle Sam

[Seattle Sam]

Just a reminder, this L78 will be selling a week from tomorrow at Mecum in Seattle. I'm also selling a 1997 Brickyard 400 parade car at the same auction.

Lot numbers are S59.1 (L78) and F179 (Brickyard Camaro)

Thank you for allowing me to post this for sale on Supercar Registry!

-Sam

[Postsedan]

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/WA0615-...ible/Automatic/ (https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/WA0615-214869/0/1997-Chevrolet-Camaro-Brickyard-Convertible/Automatic/)

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/WA0615-219205/0/1970-Chevrolet-Camaro-RS/SS/4-Speed/

Best of Luck Sam <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[CamarosRus]

Sam, Can you say if your CKO engine is the born with engine.....

Is the full 10N5xxxxx stamping legible on the block bell housing flange.

Same with MUNCIE born with stamping ???

Do you know if youre car will be down at the QWEST Field Display Center on Thursday
(as I'm leaving town early Friday for NHRA race in Canada)

[SIR-VIVOR]

Congrats on the sale Sam! I was one of the under bidders . If anybody on the site bought it, contact me as I have all the original paperwork from the original owner including window sticker. A friend from high school parents bought it new. Chris P, email [email protected]

[Tracker1]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/06/full-3497-27092-l78camaro.jpg

[GTO_DON]

Man I thought you wanted 65k for this car. That was a steal for someone. What a nice car. I'm bummed. I would have bought it for that.

[iluv69s]

These cars are SO underpriced and such a great value.....How much did it sell for??

[iluv69s]

Ah sorry...I see in the ad...42500...great price for rare car

[COPO]

Was it possible to get &quot;SS&quot; wheels on these cars as a factory option?

[Mr70]

No,not @ all from the factory.The dealer could put them on OTC afterwards for an extra cost though.
Just Chevelle/Elcamino got those Magnum 500 &quot;SS&quot; wheels included with the Super Sport pkg. during 1970.And Novas had them possible as an extra cost option if you paid for the Super Sport pkg. first.

[92646]

Wow great car for the money.

[SIR-VIVOR]

The original window sticker on this car shows full wheel covers and white walls

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SIR-VIVOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The original window sticker on this car shows full wheel covers and white walls </div></div>

Just curious why this paperwork has not been re-united with the car before now? Or is that too complicated to answer here?

[COPO]

ok, thanks that was what I thought. I was under the impression that only rally wheels were optional on the 70 Camaro SS.

[SIR-VIVOR]

I just learned a few weeks ago that an old high school friends mother bought the car new. When his mom passed away, he found an envelope with all the paperwork for the car. I tried to buy it but was outbid.

[SeattleCarGuy]

Beautiful car. Sorry that it did not bring more money. I would have loved to have bought it for that price.

My favorite car of the auction was the survivor '65 L78 Impala SS convertible if any of you guys say that one. Bid to around $72k as a no sale.

[MN 70L78]

Curious if anyone knows if the car has the 'original born with engine' or a replacement 'numbers match' engine??
$42.5K is a Great price for this car if it has the born with engine... if not, then it was priced about right.

[SIR-VIVOR]

Born with motor MIA

[SIR-VIVOR]

BTW Scott, stunning car you have!

[MN 70L78]

Thank you for the kind words and for clearing up the all important detail on the motor!

[Seattle Sam]

Sorry to be so late to the party. I recently had cataract surgery so reading is a hassle for now.
Yes to all who ask, the engine has what looks like an original stamp to me (and to others I have asked). Before I rebuilt the motor there was a fair amount of corrosion on the pad which indicates to me that if the engine was re stamped it would have been years ago. I'm not dancing around this question, but I didn't own the car from new and I am not a stamping expert. I firmly believe it's real.

And yes, the Muncie also has a partial VIN on it.

For all of you who would have paid more, the car was disclosed here and you certainly could have bid for it as Chris did. I would have been happy to sell it for more. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Chris, thanks for having Dennis bring the paperwork, I was more than a little surprised to see it! As you said the car was sold with white walls and full wheel covers. It was also not an RS, and it once had a rear defogger which is no longer there. It was born with an AM radio but now has an AM/FM, a change I chose to make. (thanks Charley!)

This was a nice #3 driver that still needed some work including a full paint job. I think the buyer got a great deal but not a steal.

Thanks for all the interest!

[Seattle Sam]

SeattleCarGuy,
Thanks for the kind words.
I too really liked that '65 Impala L78 convert, great car. That would have been a hydraulic lifter car.

[SIR-VIVOR]

As long as you're happy Sam, that's what counts. You had fun with the car for a while! The new owner was notified about the paperwork, but did not want to pay what I did for it. He offered $500.00. I think it would add more than that in value for him in the future!

[Stefano]

Congrats Sam!

[MN 70L78]

Thank you Sam for that info. Do you know if the block had the partial VIN stamp? Usually located on the bell housing flange above the oil filter.

[MN 70L78]

IMHO I too think the original paperwork is worth more than $500.. It will add a few thousand dollars value to the car!

[Seattle Sam]

Scott, I could not find a VIN on the bell housing flange.

[Seattle Sam]

Chris, agreed on the $500.00! Maybe the new owner will come around; that paperwork should add a lot of value.

[Seattle Sam]

Thanks Stefano! This was a fun car to drive and own. I can't say I made any money on it but I suspect that's true of a lot of of folks!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[Seattle Sam]

Scott, I just took a look at your L78 pictures. That's a beautiful car!

[Stefano]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seattle Sam</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Stefano! This was a fun car to drive and own. I can't say I made any money on it but I suspect that's true of a lot of of folks!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif </div></div>

Yeah, but you got to play round with one very Kool Camaro, while you were the caretaker : )

[DarrenX33]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seattle Sam</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Stefano! This was a fun car to drive and own. I can't say I made any money on it but I suspect that's true of a lot of of folks!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif </div></div>

Welcome to the club Sam.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seattle Sam</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott, I just took a look at your L78 pictures. That's a beautiful car! </div></div>

IMHO Scott's car is the best '70 L78 on the planet. Saw it at MCACN, it is jewelry.

[SIR-VIVOR]

No sweat if the new owner doesn't want the paperwork. Won't change my day. When he goes to sell someday, it can only help him,

[MN 70L78]

Thank you for the compliments on my car guys! It's nice to hear from others who appreciate it :beers:

[70-SS/RS-L78]

How much for the paperwork? The new owner of this car obviously has no intentions of ever selling it or just does not care about the cars pedigree or he feels like he is being extorted; I have pictures of the VIN stamp on this engine somewhere and if I remember correctly the engine was stamped on the front of the block in front of the RGT cylinder head and not on the rough casting on the back like every other Norwood 375 car I have ever looked at with original engine. Personally; I think the buyer brought himself a real nice car.

BTW, I agree that Scotts (MN 70L78) 70 L78 Camaro is one of the nicest 375 cars on the Planet. Come to think of it there are only 4 maybe 5 of these cars that are even restored. Hell I only think there are 25-30 70 L78’s that we know of and out of that only a couple of them still have their the Born With drive train.
Mark


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[ban617]

My cousin has an L/78 4 speed 70 SS Camaro L/78 on the trim tag ,code 48paint 723 trim.... It's a real solid car with it's original 12 bolt ,4 speed &amp; LS6 engine was in the car when he bought it ...Also still retains it's original radiator &amp; shroud ,Power steering &amp; all the deep groove pulleys ...

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ban617</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My cousin has an L/78 4 speed 70 SS Camaro L/78 on the trim tag ,code 48paint 723 trim.... It's a real solid car with it's original 12 bolt ,4 speed &amp; LS6 engine was in the car when he bought it ...Also still retains it's original radiator &amp; shroud ,Power steering &amp; all the deep groove pulleys ... </div></div>

Cool, any pics?

[Rand]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70-SS/RS-L78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW, I agree that Scotts (MN 70L78) 70 L78 Camaro is one of the nicest 375 cars on the Planet. Come to think of it there are only 4 maybe 5 of these cars that are even restored. Hell I only think there are 25-30 70 L78’s that we know of and out of that only a couple of them still have their the Born With drive train.
Mark
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Scott's car is showroom new, looks great!

My 19070 L78 Camaro has the born with engine...I tore the drive shaft in half and broke my tranny case, so I had to replace the case, tail housing, &amp; main shaft...the rest is original...LoL
Still has the original spare in the trunk, most of the original paint(with dealer optioned Z stripes), &amp; I have the original bellhousing, distributor, clutch fan up in the garage.

Still has the original 4:10 rear, although I did look into a Motion overdrive, but never followed through... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif


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[ban617]

Did the 70 Camaro's have the roof rail trim?

[earntaz]

I bought mine new and it did not ... TAZ