67 W023 Coronet

[rsinor]

So are the W023 Coronets desirable? window sticker, build sheet, automatic, one owner, original Hemi missing in action. if I purchase original paint no rust will not be restored I am thinking it needs a vintage correct engine however.

[old5.0]

They aren't chopped liver but as Super Stock Mopars go, they're kind of the odd man out. Still desirable, though.

[PLATINUM6BBL]

One of the best to ask is Scott Smith as he is rather knowledgeable about them. Lots of guys looking for an original paint car to see how they were assembled. I know Joel Nystrom had been looking for detail shots.

[mockingbird812]

As I recall, all were white, autos and 10.25 CR Hemi's. I think they look tuff.

[442w30]

There were 4-speeds too. Automatics had a reverse valve body.

All were 440 hardtops or, on the Plymouth side, Belvedere II hardtops.

I have Scott's email if you need.

[rsinor]

Thanks for the information guys, it is white/black interior automatic I do understand there were some 4 speed cars. Where do you look for a vintage 66 date coded 426 motor?

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

Roy - The good news is there were no stamped engine/trans VIN's yet....that started in the 68 model year.....so technically it wont be "matching" but it wont be wrong either. '66 street hemi production was, I think the highest and a lot of the Hemi's floating around for sale are of that vintage.

[tom406]

What's the build date on the car? I assume you're talking Sept-Dec '66 date coded engines?

[mockingbird812]

Hemi engines can have a wide casting date to factory install date time line. You'll want an expert to give you an appropriate period of time before you purchase your engine. If you have a long period of time for what would be considered an appropriate casting date vs. the build date of your car, this could give you more options and may save you money.

[Dave Castine]

They only made 55 WO23 Dodge Coronets, all of them were white. Most were Torqueflite cars (16 4-speeds I think)

Dave Castine
Vintage Cars Online, LLC.
Wakefield MA

VintageCarsOnline.com (http://www.VintageCarsOnline.com)

[Peter426]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So are the W023 Coronets desirable? window sticker, build sheet, automatic, one owner, original Hemi missing in action. if I purchase original paint no rust will not be restored I am thinking it needs a vintage correct engine however. </div></div>

I desire one.

Pete <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[Peter426]

<span style="font-weight: bold">Shirley Shahan</span>

http://107.imagebam.com/download/YbNq9xc8HRf7LtzZmTCG6w/41314/413133925/wynn%27s_drag-on-lady.jpg

[John Brown]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PLATINUM6BBL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of the best to ask is Scott Smith as he is rather knowledgeable about them. Lots of guys looking for an original paint car to see how they were assembled. I know <span style="font-weight: bold">Joel Nystrom</span> had been looking for detail shots. </div></div>

Joel is <span style="font-weight: bold">Hemi_Joel</span> on www.moparts.com (http://www.moparts.com) if the OP is interested in contacting him. Joel is a cool guy to talk to so give him a try. I think he has (or had) a RO or WO car himself. His email is [email protected]

[Peter426]

http://108.imagebam.com/download/urV1PBJsDSm8ZisnYhMSNQ/41335/413345507/dick_landy%27s_dodge.JPG

[rsinor]

OK car is at the shop, records indicate it was shipped April 6, 1067, sold new at Grand Spaulding Auto. So what date range engine should I be looking for? last six of VIN 201088

[mockingbird812]

&quot;Grand Spaulding&quot; eh?! That is good provenance. Maybe you should check with Mr. Norm and see if he sponsored it or knows its legacy. Congrats! How about a few photos?

[RJS]

I seem to remember that packets of information can be purchased from Mr. Norm or someone he could get you in contact with on many cars that passed through that dealership.
Ron

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

Unfortunately - Nothing older than 69 G-S Dodge paperwork is available. There was a fire in '68 that destroyed all that paper. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

As far as block casting dates.....here is an excerpt on that.... Based on our research 1967 Hemi cars should have either left over 1965 cast or 1966 cast block. However, this is not an absolute however we have not seen a documented 1967 Hemi with an engine casting other then 1966. There were no 1967 HEMI blocks cast. The latest 1966 block that we have run across is 10-31-66

[rsinor]

I had been told that I needed 65 or 66 casting dates from a good friend, not knowing anything about MOPAR casting date timing I wanted to confirm that, thanks.

[Xplantdad]

Cool find!

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool find! </div></div>


VERY!!!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

Nice!! Also very cool you have the original window sticker....and that it is a real Mr. Norm's car! I have 3 G-S cars....very cool - congrats!

[mockingbird812]

I love the remote control left hand mirror AND the radio delete! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[bkhpah]

VERY cool!!!BKH

[Charley Lillard]

Amazing car and paperwork. Congrats Roy.

[Lynn]

Very cool Roy.
Couldn't happen for a nicer guy.

I am not a Mopar guy, but really like this car. Heater delete and remote mirror? What are the chances?

I think I need to make a trip to Tulsa soon!!!!!

[rsinor]

I appreciate all of the kind words guys. It's strange how these things happen. Have all the projects I need with my 32 Vicky currently apart and a new (old) blown flat head being built for it.

I am attracted to original cars, in particular cars that exhibit something most do not have. This old MOPAR with original paint and no serious rust anywhere was just more than I could pass up. Original trunk area is almost perfect, rear mat, battery area and hold down along with jack and original spare that has never been on the ground, just seems like icing on the cake. Interior needs a little work and at some point the original owner liked rattle can paint but a little tender attention will solve most of the issues.

Believe I have found a engine, will be inspecting it soon, if it turns out to be as complete as I am told it is, there will be another engine being built at my shop.

[Xplantdad]

32 Vicky with a blown flathead? Need to know more about this one, too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">32 Vicky with a blown flathead? Need to know more about this one, too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif </div></div>

Bought from the second owner of 52 years, who purchased it from his Dad, not hardly a muscle car, just an original all steel uncut 32 Ford Vicky, that is having a Blown Ardun head flattie built, by Don Ferguson in California. I'll attach a family portrait with it. If it has four wheels there is a chance I'm all in.

You guys might think this is a sacrilege I'm pulling a 360 mopar out of it.

[Charley Lillard]

Was that wear white day or what ?

[Lynn]

LOL. For what it's worth, Roy, you guys look OK in white.

I am one of four boys. In the 80's we did a portrait of all four of us to give my parents. Did the same thing in the late 90's. On the second one, my artsy brother (who had done some professional photography) insisted we all wear white mock turtlenecks. Told us it would be &quot;timeless&quot; and &quot;classic&quot; looking.

I still hate it almost 20 years later. Looks like a freakin milk man convention.

[Xplantdad]

Beautiful Vicky...I love them...what a classic hot rod! You better share after the blown flathead gets installed <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[mockingbird812]

Classic, vintage flat head for a 360? No brainer! Keep us posted on your progress. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[rsinor]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was that wear white day or what ? </div></div>

Yep, photographer said wear white, so we did.

[SpaceLord]

I have an original 4-speed WO, and have had another auto and a RO/Belvedere. I'm not into original, though.

[mockingbird812]

Michael - Welcome aboard. Would love to see a photo or two of your original 4 speed WO.

[SpaceLord]

Thanks, Merry Christmas!! This was really used up, and I built the racecar out of it. I didn't have the heart to cut up the really nice one. That one just recently sold at auction.

Mine.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ym9ibo.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/v78scn.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/2w58s45.jpg

Same car in 1967.......
http://i63.tinypic.com/20kor40.jpg

The one that sold at auction...
http://i65.tinypic.com/2n9i2og.jpg

What it looked like when I sold it[around 2005]....
http://i64.tinypic.com/4lftjp.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Verty nice. Some cool iron there. Love the WO hood scoops. One of the best! Thanks!

[Stefano]

The fact that its a Mr. Norm's Grand Spaulding Dodge is a big plus, IMO.

Did you check the dealer file with Larry?

[SpaceLord]

Nope, had no idea. I called Norm Krause back around 2000. The call was for some info on the possible history on my car, as it was rumored to have been from around Chiraq. When I asked him about the 67 S/S cars and if he was the possible dealer of my car....he told me there was never any such car as a 67 WO23J, and if there was...he would have sold all of them. I was standing between both of mine at the time....and was dumb-founded. We argued for a bit, then I figured he was an idiot, and continued with my projects. I found out who originally owned my car, about 2008-09. I've talked with Jack a couple times. He informed me it was his favorite factory racecar. I'd like more history[from new], but didn't really know where to look.

[Stefano]

I was referring to Roy's WO Hemi, but Kool that yours may have been sold from there too.

Larry Wiener has many of the Norm's dealer files.

[DW31S]

Don't know that Mr. Norm is an idiot; maybe he was having a bad day or thought you were some young &quot;whippersnapper&quot; pestering him for free info. Regardless, that isn't the gist of this thread or my comment. That Silver car looks like one clean car and very nice build. Now, back to Roy's thread:
Congrats on the find and WOW! What a car! What are your plans other than an engine and a spiff? Nostalgia Drags? Survivor show? Is the car as good as the pictures represent? I'm really into the nostalgia drag racing and have two &quot;pretty good&quot; (absolutely NOT bragging) cars myself. Good luck on whatever avenue you pursue and please keep us up to date on any progress.

[earntaz]

... then I figured he was an idiot, and continued with my projects ...

Actually, Norm was a pretty smart &quot;idiot&quot; ... seems odd that he shut you down -- usually he would talk to anyone when the conversation was about MoPars. TAZ

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

There are no records/dealer files for anything earlier than 69 available from Larry. There was a fire in 68 that destroyed a lot of that paperwork.
Even at that - Larry was not able to rescue all the 69 and up paperwork from the warehouse across the street due to water damage. mold etc.
Norm was one of the first &quot;marketers&quot; and a car salesman supremo......he remembers a lot of the early 60's S/Stockers....and the SS Darts - which many of almost got taken out in that fire.....