Which is more valuable 69 H/O or 70 W30

[scorpio ps]

Given the same condition and automatics. Also how would the 70 W30 4sp measure up in the mix.

[83hurstguy]

Tough question, in my opinion... I would say the 69 H/O generally has an edge mainly due to the requirement for paperwork for an automatic 70 W30 price reach a premium (whereas most '69 H/O VINs are known). A project 69 H/O is typically worth more than a project 70 W30 automatic/hardtop that is documented. When both are restored properly (and the W30 has paperwork), prices could be similar, with some differences based on W30 color.

A '70 W30 4 speed with paperwork would have a slight edge over '69 H/O in most cases (unless its an undesirable color)...

The big difference comes in cars that are non-numbers matching... H/O's without original engines/drivelines will hold their value more than the W30's from what I've seen. W30's without paperwork or well documented history are just 442's.

It's hard to say. The prices have been all over the map the past few years. You may find cases where a true #1 W30 automatic car pulled more at auction than a #1 69 H/O (and there are examples of automatic W30s that I would definitely agree are worth that). It comes down to buying the right car in any of these three configurations.

[Stefano]

Both are very desirable collectable W-Machines.


1969 H/O Value Guide (https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vbe=16597)



1970 W-30 Value Guide (https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vbe=81625)

There is a 20% add per Hagerty for a 4 speed.

The 1970 4 speed is considered "Top Dog".

[GTO_DON]

I think those prices are backwards.

[442w30]

Agreed - I would have thought the H/O was worth more, not to mention who's paying $110k for a W-30 hardtop?