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f68yenko
07-20-2015, 06:03 PM
Does anybody know how many moss green 500 GT Eleanor's were made in 67 and 68 fastback ,no convertible, with side pipes ?

olredalert
07-20-2015, 07:09 PM
----Frank,,,Im not sure what you are looking for. The "Eleanor" thing came along with the movies. Shelby or Ford never built a model named "Eleanor". Now, if you want to know strictly how many GT 500 fastbacks were produced by a factory (either Shelby or Ford) in a particular color, you should be able to get an answer to that from any Shelby sight, and its entirely possible someone on this sight can also answer your question. Hope this help.....Bill S

Tracker1
07-20-2015, 11:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anybody know how many moss green 500 GT Eleanor's were made in 67 and 68 fastback ,no convertible, with side pipes ? </div></div>

Sidepipes? No '67 or '68 Shelby GT500 had factory-installed sidepipes.

f68yenko
07-21-2015, 07:28 PM
I'm sorry but it did not come from the movie, because I own one and it actually states Eleanor on the title. I am contacting Shelby and Shelby America and the are gonna give me an answer cause their gonna try to pull records for from the early eighties. I had several Shelbys then and purchased parts and even had a 350 hertz restored with Carol over looking the project (I knew him).... I'm not trying to be a smart alec, I just thought might know while I had you on the site, it's ok though, there is always a little bit of confusion with some cars from the sixties.......thank you for your response

PxTx
07-21-2015, 08:39 PM
Did the lable Eleanor mean something before the movie? What is it's origin?

olredalert
07-21-2015, 11:30 PM
----Frank,,,No malice intended. Im willing to learn exactly what you are talking about. My cousin owned serial # 3003 427 Cobra comp car as well as a supercharged 67 427 Shelby, and as I hung around with him a lot so Im not totally out of the loop. I always know, though, that I can learn something new every day, even at 67 years old......Bill S

tabooo
07-22-2015, 04:57 PM
Bill I can't believe you are (67) years old,I hope you never retire from this hobby.

f68yenko
07-22-2015, 09:50 PM
It's alright ,I'm personally trying to remember myself, and soon when I get documents and paper work back ,I will be more than happy to share any info on any of my cars with everybody...... I will tell you one thing, back in the day I knew a celebrity who had a Eleanor, and in those days we use to meet up at a few car shows that were put on in the memory of famous people like Thurmond Munson, his was silver, but he had purchased at that time the nicest black super snake that anyone had seen, it pops up now in then in photos but what people don't know is the name of the celebrity is John Bon Jovi....other celebrities as well like one of the guys from the group &quot;eagles&quot; had Eleanor's too, they were very hot in the early eighties to have

Fast67VelleN2O
07-24-2015, 04:36 PM
There's no such thing as a Carroll Shelby built 1967 or 1968 Mustang Eleanor that was built in the 1960's, 1970's, or 1980's. There wasn't any &quot;Eleanor&quot; Mustangs built until the movie in 2000.

tom406
07-24-2015, 06:02 PM
I respectfully agree with Matt.

old5.0
07-24-2015, 06:24 PM
Eleanor was a yellow 71 Mustang used in the original Gone in 60 Seconds released in 1974. The 2000 remake changed this to a 67 fastback that vaguely resembled a Shelby. My guess is that there was never any particular significance attached to the name, but since Halicki is dead, we can't ask. It had nothing to do with FoMoCo or Shelby, neither of which had any sort of known relationship with Halicki's self-funded movie.

Mr70
07-28-2015, 03:23 PM
Any update to this f68yenko?

68l30
07-29-2015, 06:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eleanor was a yellow 71 Mustang used in the original Gone in 60 Seconds released in 1974. The 2000 remake changed this to a 67 fastback that vaguely resembled a Shelby. My guess is that there was never any particular significance attached to the name, but since Halicki is dead, we can't ask. It had nothing to do with FoMoCo or Shelby, neither of which had any sort of known relationship with Halicki's self-funded movie. </div></div>

Love the names on the Hot list, that was a GREAT movie (car wise) . The car chases were real and the stunt work was incredible.....wish a lot more of todays movies were like it.

BIG

f68yenko
08-01-2015, 06:20 PM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29785-shelbyexp500_02_1200.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...90f77d727def8e0 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29787-c76e6a6139a764390f77d727def8e0)

f68yenko
08-01-2015, 06:23 PM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...1208d34e3fcdf1a (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29788-0dadd4feaefd2701208d34e3fcdf1a)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29789-200143.jpg

PxTx
08-01-2015, 06:30 PM
I'm missing the connection between the &quot;Green Hornet&quot; theme and the Eleanor theme. My Ford exposure is very limited.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/19/1968-shelby-exp-500-fails-to-sell-at-barrett-jackson-despite-1/

f68yenko
08-01-2015, 06:33 PM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29790-_35.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...90f77d727def8e0 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29791-c76e6a6139a764390f77d727def8e0)

luzl78
08-01-2015, 07:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...1208d34e3fcdf1a (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29788-0dadd4feaefd2701208d34e3fcdf1a)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29789-200143.jpg
</div></div>i had a 87 Porsche 928 delivered to my house and the silver Shelby was in front of my car. He took it out of the trailer...and what a sound!

Dave Rifkin
08-01-2015, 09:26 PM
None of the pictured examples were ever offered by Shelby to the public. The 1968 Green Hornet is a one-off car that had an experimental fuel injection system installed. The other cars are &quot;Eleanor&quot; clones and the Eleanor car was built specifically for the movie which came out well after the last Shelby was built in 1969.

f68yenko
08-02-2015, 12:03 PM
Not to start a war or anything but, in the nearly eighties when I purchased my 67-68 Shelby GT 500 &quot;Eleanor&quot;, I named it &quot;Rigby&quot; for the reason that on the title and the documents it stated &quot;Eleanor&quot;, not to mention a chicken farmer new I owned the car. And also, if you look somewhere, you will find that Carroll actually went to court to sue the writers or makers of the movie &quot;Gone In Sixty Seconds&quot; for the writers to the name &quot;Shelby Eleanor&quot; http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...90f77d727def8e0 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29811-c76e6a6139a764390f77d727def8e0)

Charley Lillard
08-02-2015, 02:24 PM
I have never heard of a Eleanor being built in 67-68. I owned the 67 GT500 SuperSnake and I consider that the king of all 67's. A Eleanor never even came into my thinking when trying to think of a competitor to the Super Snake. Do you have a pic of this so called Eleanor you owned ? Your claim is really stretching it without something to back it up. What does the Shelby Registry say about Eleanors ? It is about a 20 lb. book that lists all the cars Shelby built.

olredalert
08-02-2015, 02:28 PM
----Frank,,,A lot of doubt would be erased if you could post a picture of your &quot;Eleanor&quot;. Just sayin!!!......Bill S

Fast67VelleN2O
08-02-2015, 04:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...1208d34e3fcdf1a (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29788-0dadd4feaefd2701208d34e3fcdf1a)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29789-200143.jpg
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This is a car built by Cinema Vehicle Services with a Steve Stanford body kit for the Movie &quot;Gone in 60 Seconds&quot;. There was never a Shelby built like this.

Fast67VelleN2O
08-02-2015, 04:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29790-_35.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...90f77d727def8e0 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29791-c76e6a6139a764390f77d727def8e0)
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This is also a Gone in 60 Seconds car painted red and sold as a novelty item as a model car. Again, not a real Shelby built Mustang.

Fast67VelleN2O
08-02-2015, 04:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29785-shelbyexp500_02_1200.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...90f77d727def8e0 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29787-c76e6a6139a764390f77d727def8e0)
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This isn't a Gone in 60 Seconds &quot;Eleanor&quot; at all but a Carroll Shelby prototype coupe. Here is a link to when it was auctioned off.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archive/Event/Item/1968-SHELBY-EXP-500-THE-GREEN-HORNET-137819

old5.0
08-02-2015, 04:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to start a war or anything but, in the nearly eighties when I purchased my 67-68 Shelby GT 500 &quot;Eleanor&quot;, I named it &quot;Rigby&quot; for the reason that on the title and the documents it stated &quot;Eleanor&quot;, not to mention a chicken farmer new I owned the car. And also, if you look somewhere, you will find that Carroll actually went to court to sue the writers or makers of the movie &quot;Gone In Sixty Seconds&quot; for the writers to the name &quot;Shelby Eleanor&quot; http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...90f77d727def8e0 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29811-c76e6a6139a764390f77d727def8e0)
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Again, Eleanor was a 71 Mustang fastback. There was no Shelby connection until the 2000 remake, and even that connection was tenuous. I can find no reference to the lawsuit you mention.

Fast67VelleN2O
08-02-2015, 04:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to start a war or anything but, in the nearly eighties when I purchased my 67-68 Shelby GT 500 &quot;Eleanor&quot;, I named it &quot;Rigby&quot; for the reason that on the title and the documents it stated &quot;Eleanor&quot;, not to mention a chicken farmer new I owned the car. And also, if you look somewhere, you will find that Carroll actually went to court to sue the writers or makers of the movie &quot;Gone In Sixty Seconds&quot; for the writers to the name &quot;Shelby Eleanor&quot;</div></div>

Carroll Shelby never sued anyone. The wife of the late director H.B. &quot;Toby&quot; Halicki of the original movie sued Carroll Shelby and Unique Motorsports. Carroll obtained the trademark rights to use the Eleanor name on cars in a 2002 after filing with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Notice this is two years AFTER the movie came out. He obtained the trademark rights of the name Eleanor to combine his already trademarked Shelby name to licence them to Unique Motorsports to build Shelby Eleanor Mustangs. It was only about the almighty dollar. Not about trademarking a name he already used in the past.

Fast67VelleN2O
08-09-2015, 03:27 PM
I honestly would have thought in that claiming to own such a rare car a picture would have been posted to clear things up.

Craig_Maiorana
09-08-2015, 08:08 PM
If he is so insistent on it being an &quot;Eleanor&quot; the only real possibility is that it could be one of the unique performance cars. They were dubbed GT500E's. That's the only thing I can come up with. It's like the others stated Eleanor is a 71 Shelby was only involved after the movie remake

Lynn
09-08-2015, 09:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f68yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to start a war or anything but, in the nearly eighties when I purchased my 67-68 Shelby GT 500 &quot;Eleanor&quot;, I named it &quot;Rigby&quot; for the reason that on the title and the documents it stated &quot;Eleanor&quot;, not to mention a chicken farmer new I owned the car. And also, if you look somewhere, you will find that Carroll actually went to court to sue the writers or makers of the movie &quot;Gone In Sixty Seconds&quot; for the writers to the name &quot;Shelby Eleanor&quot; http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...90f77d727def8e0 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-18800-29811-c76e6a6139a764390f77d727def8e0)</div></div>

Frank: I don't think anyone thinks you are trying to start a war. Hopefully, you understand the skepticism regarding a 67-68 Eleanor. I don't doubt your word that the title may have had the name &quot;Eleanor&quot; right on the face of it. But, all that means is that at some time in the car's life it changed hands from individuals in different states. Say the seller was in State A, and the buyer in State B. Buyer goes to title the car, and the tag agent (a clerk working for the DMV in most states, but the Tax Commission if it were Oklahoma) asks what kind of car it is. He or she takes the owner's word for it that it is a Shelby Eleanor.

I have seen more than one fake Z/28 that had &quot;Z/28&quot; typed in as a sub model on the title. Just means a clerk took someone's word for it.

fsc66
09-09-2015, 11:36 PM
Just as information:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-garage1mar01-story.html

Paul