Pontiac GM Fisher Body 1970

[cook_dw]

I did a search but didnt come up with anything but Im sure these have been posted before. Thought these were pretty cool insight to production, engineering & testing.

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Heres a couple others that seem the same but slightly different. GM Manufacturing Films</span>

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[Craig_Maiorana]

can't see anything... just a square icon in the upper left corner of each box

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMOKIN_JOKER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can't see anything... just a square icon in the upper left corner of each box
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Thats odd.. Works for me. Try these then.

1<span style="font-weight: bold">970 Pontiac Fisher Body Films</span>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlndz1CODCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbTsvPSr_2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kvJGQYTKVc


<span style="font-weight: bold">GM Manufacturing Films</span>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_wLx3hF6oY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw9mB9Lf2X4

[Mr70]

Good stuff.
I have these &amp; a few other GM/Chevrolet 16mm movies still in their cans.

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did a search but didnt come up with anything but Im sure these have been posted before. Thought these were pretty cool insight to production, engineering &amp; testing. </div></div>

Thanks for posting those, Darrell.

I've done many of those activities over the last 37 years and it is interesting to me that alot of it is still done the same way.

We still use clay models (both full size and scale) except now the scan data goes directly to math rather than paper drawings, tapes or storage discs.

I was pleased to see the level of automation in use in the body shops - still done the same way. One difference I noticed is that they were spraying the prime coat whereas we use ELPO dip tanks exclusively now.

K

[cook_dw]

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[SS427]

Excellent videos, some of which I had never seen. I learned several things about the assembly process that was different than I thought or it could be that it varies from plant to plant. Cool stuff none the less. Thanks for sharing.

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excellent videos, some of which I had never seen. I learned several things about the assembly process that was different than I thought or it could be that it varies from plant to plant. Cool stuff none the less. Thanks for sharing. </div></div>

It can even vary for the same product within the same plant.

When I started at Chevrolet Flint Assembly pickups were built on &quot;Line 1&quot;; Blazer/Suburban were built on &quot;Line 2&quot;.

The pickups used a &quot;piecemeal&quot; approach to front end build, where the fenders were brought to the main line individually and the hood added a few stations after that (the radiator support was alread on the chassis).

Blazer/Suburban used a &quot;buck build&quot; approach, where the fenders, rad support and hood were all assembled off line and brought to the vehicle as a unit, like you see in the Tarrytown pics.

K

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I learned several things about the assembly process that was different than I thought ... </div></div>

Just to elaborate a bit: when setting up an assembly line, just like anything else in life, all the work tends to slip to as late as possible in the process (everybody wants to be &quot;last&quot;). It takes a disciplined approach and conscious effort to plan for the work to take place farther upstream but you end up with some processes that are not the way your or I would do it in the garage.

Examples of things that surprised me as a young car guy many years ago: painting the two tone color first, masking it off and spraying the primary color over the top. Having a complete brake system before installing the body. Completely trimming out the body before installing on the chassis. Starting out with the frame upside down. One operator putting the nuts on the bolts but someone else torquing them down. Driving multiple fasteners at the same time, etc.

I have heard the suggestion that the auto industry took advantage of the slow times/low volume of the Great Depression and used that time to move away from the vestigal &quot;stall&quot; or stationary build order and completely revamp the way vehicles were built. We are still using that same basic build order today.

K

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> One operator putting the nuts on the bolts but someone else torquing them down. </div></div>

Sorry - I keep thinking of stuff.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/blush.gif

I have a friend that worked in a Ford assembly plant when he was a young buck.

He used to put the &quot;F&quot; and the &quot;O&quot; on the decklid and somebody else would install the &quot;R&quot; and the &quot;D&quot;.

I told him it was a good thing he didn't work for &quot;STUDEBAKER&quot;...

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K

[SS427]

One of the interesting parts I saw in the video was how the body, vinyl top, glass, firewall components, etc were all installed before they did the water leak test and then the interior, headliner, etc was installed. Makes sense now but I always thought the Fisher body/interior were completed and then water tested. When I went thru to Corvette plant the car was running and driving before any water test was done.