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bkhpah
09-24-2000, 11:55 AM
The order of 50 Berger Camaros seems to be from two different months. I was curious as to color selection on the Berger cars. Yenko only used six. Does anyone know the colors they ordered them in? I have seen LeMans Blue, Cortez Silver, Dover White, Daytona Yellow, and Olympic Gold. Are there others?
Just curious..
BKH

09-24-2000, 02:45 PM
Brian, I know that they also offered red. The yellow and silver cars were ordered for the owners of berger. The yellow one was painted inhouse at their bodyshop. The silver one I was told has an upgrade to 425hp! I tried to order a huggar orange car with black striping to no avail. My only option was to pay an additional 6000 dollars for the color I wanted. Also I understand that they were recently trying to locate any 2000 ss camaros to convert to meet their expected 50 sales.

sixtiesmuscle
09-24-2000, 08:58 PM
Brian, I have seen an originally Hugger Orange car that is now black.

Kurt S
09-24-2000, 09:15 PM
Sounds like they were 31 (not 21) years apart. http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

COPO
09-24-2000, 09:59 PM
I think you guys are about 31 years apart? 1969 Berger COPO's vs. 2000 Berger Camaro.
(thanks Kurt S)



[Edited by COPO (09-24-2000 at 04:59 PM).]

bkhpah
09-25-2000, 11:33 AM
Yes, I was talking 1969 colors. I heard that the 2000 Bergers were only in blue, red or white for resale. Any truth to that? I saw a black one once that I thought was LeMans Blue. It might be the same car. It's hard to get facts straight after six month's let alone 30+ years. That's what makes this interesting.
BKH

Mis B
09-25-2000, 09:50 PM
I had a chance to look at my files: There was also a 69 Berger COPO in Fathom Green.

Officially the 2000 colors were: Bright Rally Red, Onyx Black, Navy Blue Metallic, and Artic White.

All the 2000 interiors were Ebony leather.

2000 SS color breakdown:
Bright Rally Red/T/Top-7
Bright Rally Red/Conv-2
Onyx Black/T-Top-8
Onyx Black/Conv-2
Navy Blue Metallic/T-Top-4
Navy Blue Metallic/Conv-0
Artic White/T-Top-3
Artic White/Conv-1

bkhpah
09-25-2000, 10:39 PM
Thanks Mis B for the info. The Gold Berger RS Camaro I saw was some time ago. I remember the color to be a darker gold than Olympic Gold would be. I did not look at the tag. The Black one I saw was LeMans Blue, I was told that by the owner at the time. I have never seen a Berger in some of the other colors that you have mentioned. I would like to see some in those colors. Also, were all the Bergers ordered with the VE3 Endura front bumper? Every one I have seen to date has it.
Thanks for the insite B
BKH

Mis B
09-26-2000, 12:20 AM
All the 69 Berger COPOs should have the following:
Endura Bumper
D80 Spoilers
X11 Trim
Hockey Stick Stripe (except RS which had wheel opening pinstripe)
9737 Equipment
50% +/- had Vinyl Tops (all Black)

Charley Lillard
09-26-2000, 03:32 AM
Speaking of Bergers...Chevy454, when are you going to take Porterfields name off my car on the Dealer Links page ? :-)

Chevy454
09-26-2000, 03:46 AM
Consider it done!

Kurt S
09-26-2000, 04:57 AM
Mike,
How many of the Berger's were RS's?
Also, were most of them console and guage cars?

Thanks!

Mis B
09-26-2000, 05:40 AM
Colors for the 69 Berger COPOS;
Daytona Yellow, Garnet Red, Glacier Blue, LeMans Blue, Dover White, Rally Green, Hugger Orange, & Cortez Silver. According to Dale Berger there were no Olympic Gold or Tuxedo Black cars ordered. There are reports of Olympic Gold cars but the paint codes have not been verified.

Color for the 2000 cars are: Red, Black, White & Blue. I have the exact number of cars of each color if any one is interested There were three special paint cars all done in house by Berger: Daytona Yellow, Millennium Yellow, & Cortez Silver. The Silver car was modified to 425 hp and there were six convertibles in the edition.

JoeC
09-26-2000, 07:19 AM
I hope there are not too many questions here but I have a few more on the Berger cars,
How many 4sp cars vs how many TH400?
Were they all Norwood or were some built in LA?
I have read that Berger sold about 10 1969 COPO Chevelles. Were they also 9737 cars?
thanks

Mis B
09-27-2000, 01:21 AM
Consensus of opinion about the numer of Berger 69 COPO RS is 6.

It appears that half of the cars were 4spd and the other half were Turbo 400's. The 4spds were non-console/no guage (except of course for the speedo and tach) and all the cars ordered after May 1st of 69 had center fuel guages. All the 400's were console without guage clusters and also no dash guages. It also appears that the half and half transmission rule applies to the RS cars.

All the Berger 69 COPOs came from Norwood.

Berger did sell 10 Chevelle COPO's in 69 and as of 1995 only one was known to still exist. I do not know the current whereabouts of the car. I will have to check on the 9737 options for the Chevelles but I think they were equiped that way.

Berger also sold 1 69 COPO Nova.

bkhpah
09-27-2000, 03:03 AM
You will have to fill us in on the COPO 69 Nova. That is a very hot topic around here!
BKH

JoeC
09-27-2000, 10:14 AM
In the Hooper Camaro book there is a picture of a 1970 Berger Super Nova with SS hood and wheels. It has a wing on the back and some graphics. Do you know if this was a COPO LT1 Nova or a 402 or 454? In the interview with Mike Mawee he said they did a few conversions but did not say what they were. The 69 COPO Nova sounds very interesting!

Bad Boy
09-27-2000, 12:33 PM
I have come across some information regarding the 1970 Nova in question. As far as I know, these Novas were powered by the LT1 350. This car has also been referred to as the Mystery Nova. From what I understand, this car was used as a promotional tool for Berger Chevrolet, and not many were built. Essentially, this Nova was a well-optioned street cruiser.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
09-27-2000, 12:34 PM
The '69 COPO Nova sounds interesting, what can you tell us about it?
Marlin

Mis B
09-27-2000, 04:51 PM
Dale Berger mentioned the 69 Nova COPO in a conversation about the Camaros and Chevelles. It was something like "oh, yeah, we sold a 427 Nova too" and that was it. I was never interested in Novas and didn't pursue it further. Appearantly I missed any interesting subject and will find out what he can tell me about it.

sYc
09-28-2000, 01:39 AM
The Berger COPO Nova in question may have been a 1968 L-78/auto car, like the Gibb cars. As I was speaking at the Camarofest this year, I mentioned the Gibb/Harrell Novas. Dale raised his hand and said thet they sold 1 in 1968, a blue one. Jim Mattison went on the say that there were 53 1968 Novas, 50 Gibb cars and 3 others. Tom

Mis B
10-01-2000, 05:35 AM
I stand corrected: the Nova was a 68 with a special Turbo transmission.

Mis B
10-11-2000, 10:56 PM
Update on the Berger COPO 69 Chevelles:

Colors: LeMans Blue, Cortez Silver,Fathom Green, Dover White & Garnet Red.

Transmissions: 7 4spd M-21
3 auto

Dale Berger did not give an indication as to whether the Chevelles had the 9737 option.

Appearantly, the one example that may still exist is reported to have been owned by a college roommate of Dale Berger. The gentleman still lives in Lansing and we are trying to locate him to get additional information on these cars.

JoeC
10-11-2000, 11:44 PM
Mis B , Thanks for checking into the COPO Chevelles. I believe one of the Chevelles was purchased by a friend of Roger Huntington who wrote for Hi Per Cars magazine. Roger mentioned it in one of his editorials and noted the car's low 13sec. quarter mile time. I remember this because it was one of the few times that a factory 427 Chevelle was mentioned in print. I believe it was the Garnet red car.