How many of you are here from the Buick GSCA board?

[Chevy454]

Well, since the Buick bulletin board that I used to frequent daily has been down, I have noticed a slight increase in membership here, and some of the usernames are very familiar!

I know Pete, Mike, Casey, Jim, and Ron have moved over here temporarily to get there "fix" for the day, but what are the others from the GSCA board doing? Does anyone know if/when the GSCA board will be back up and running? Pretty bad timing, as Casey's article in last month's MCR probably led a bunch of users over to the board, but it has been down, so they may never know about the discussion over there!

[COPO PETE]

Come on Rob. You know there all not going to admit to it. I see Casey has finally after months of being registered under a different name has changed it to his real name. We better be good because he has another five articles or so to do for MCR on web sites. We don't want to give him a bad impression. I think he will be impressed. That thread on the 68 Yenko's being COPO's or not is some of the most interesting reading I've read in a long time.
Peter

[Casey Marks]

Yep - Pete busted me. I was originally on here as Deuce sYc. I changed the email address on that profile so that I could barrage you all with my intellect and wit as *Casey*.

PS - The reason I was Deuce sYc was because of my absolute fasination with those cars .... I WILL own one someday .............

No need to think I've got a bad impression - - I think that this site has some astounding info, that you can't get from many places ......

Hey Pete - how are you and Jimmy doing on that LT-1 ?? Ready to run an Olds yet ???? Tell Jimmy to take that Liberty junk outta there, and row the gears ..... http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

Casey Marks
1970 F85 W-31
13.xx @ 10x.xx http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

[Michael]

I'm here http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

[BUIZILLA]

Rob, I actually have been a silent lurker here for quite some time. Great BB.

Jim

[Belair62]

Been a Buick fan since high school.Any of you Buick folks from the midwest? I sold a 65 Riviera,shell beige,custom tan interior,tilt,cruise,rear def,p/w,p/vw,NO AIR,teak wheel,dual quad car that I still have POP for.I have always wondered if this car survived.I think it may have since I sold it in 83.It was called an A-8 package car as it was a NON-GS...those were some of the nicest valve covers on that nailhead.I should dig up the VIN and run a check on it. Any Riviera registries out there that anyone knows of ?

[Ron Nies]

I keep getting an all white page on the Buick Pure Stock Drag board so why not start one up here? It seems like there is more people into the pure Stock drags over here and on the Buick site then on the Moparts board. It seems like there is not as many Mopar guys running there cars all stock as they want to go faster and thats great as I like that also but I enjoy talking to many different people with all brands about these races and there cars. So it looks like no one knows when the Buick board will be back up so I say who needs it when we can talk about it here or on the Moparts board or somewhere. As long as we are all gearheads and it seems to me that most of us get along real well no matter what brand we like and we all enjoy these Muscle Cars so maybe we should start one here or somewhere? Just and idea! Ron

[Chevy454]

Well, it would just take me abut 5 seconds to add a new forum, so if you all are interested, just let me know, and I will give us a new place to hang out.

It's pretty cool to see that some of you were here before the GSCA board went bad! Makes think for sure this site must be doing something right! I have only recently ran across the Moparts.com board, which has some real good info on Mopars, but there after reading some threads over there, I still have 1 question: Mike, do you like headers http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif?

[Ron Nies]

Man dont ask Mike that! That even makes him turn on his own kind! Just funning Mike as I really like that RoadRunner of yours even more now that I have seen it in color and you are famous and all that stuff! Now what was that about headers? Ron

[COPO PETE]

Hey Casey! What exactly is going on with the Buick sight? You, if anyone should know. And don't give me that " I think a chicken virus from Canada wiped it out!" http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif Even I won't buy that one. Also to reply to "ready to race an Olds yet" comment...did you buy another car or something? http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif
Peter

[Mike Wowk]

Headers,Headers, We don't neeed no stinkin' headers!! Ron, What are you talkin' about!! Those guys are the ones who got nasty with me! It was crazy how mad those guys got when I said I didn't like headers. Oh well I guess thosse guys can't understand the "stock" thing. There just mad cuz they can't make their cars run even with headers!

[Casey Marks]

Well here's what I do know......

It's screwed up. Does that help, our is that a given ???

Apparently there was something that went wrong, and then they had to move stuff over to another server .... blah, blah, blah. Even though the Bulletin Board is accessible, there is still no posting that can happen ??? Why - I don't know. Dave Greene says that he is *on* Bennett to get it back up, but I really don't know much more than that.

Nope Pete - no new car ... just my 'ole POS from years past. But this year, I figured out which plug wires go to which cylinder. They make these pesky Oldsmobiles so dang hard to figure out ...........

How's that Salminila Chevy anyhoo ? Kinda has a *ring* to it, doesn't it ..... http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[Ron Nies]

Yeah I know some of them guys get pretty upset over at Moparts about headers and like I say I like cars with manifolds or with headers whatever the owner likes works for me! I like manifolds for the Pure Stock drags (Course I have to thats all they allow) and I like the sound of headers on a closed exh system with a little cam rump rump in there but I wish Mopar had put a better manifold on the big block A-Bodys! So what do you guys think should we wait for the Buick site to get back up or start a Pure stock site over here as Rob says its real easy! Ron

[Edited by Ron Nies (05-06-2001 at 01:51 PM).]

[Mike Wowk]

I don't know Ron, This Chevy site makes my computer run slow http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

[Mike Wowk]

I know alot of Chevy guys also like headers, What are your thoughts on cars with headers and trick intakes and all the go fast goodies that only run 13's and 14's?? We won't even mention the 15 second cars with speed equiptment and big blocks? I say why bother with headers if your not running at least real low 13's!!In reality you should be able to run a 12sec. ET with a big block and headers even with a Ford!

[Ron Nies]

Mike I totally agree with that! I figure that my 383 Dart bone stock should run in the 13,s or I am missing on the tune-up. I see to many cars way over cammed and so on that run worse then a well setup car that is all stock! So I figured that my car should run at least high 12,s with headers and a little convertor and the 484 cam and when it went 12.49 on the second run and I drove it 40 miles to the track and never touched a thing I figured I had the jetting and tune pretty close and I left well enough alone. But any bigblock muscle car should most likely be able to get in the 13,s with someone taking the time to work with what they got. I see alot of guys have a car restored and just take it to the track and just run it and have no idea where anything is set and I think to myself man that car could be a 1/2 to a second quicker with the proper setup! You can tell at the Pure stock drags who has just come to play and who really works there car over and I am sure some guys go a little farther then the rules let you but thats a whole new subjet! Ron

[Casey Marks]

OK boys read it and weap .....

pub6.ezboard.com/fstocksuperstockforum70108stocksuperstockforum.sho wMessage?topicID=3687.topic (http://pub6.ezboard.com/fstocksuperstockforum70108stocksuperstockforum.sho wMessage?topicID=3687.topic)

The guy is 69 years old in a Hemi Barracuda .......

No further questions your honor ...... http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

[Edited by Casey Marks (05-06-2001 at 08:07 PM).]

[Mike Wowk]

Ya see how good "stock" Mopar runs! http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

[Ron Nies]

I do believe that SS/AA Cuda driven by Harry Holton that ran 8.68 is a little more then stock and I think it has headers?Just kidding but them cars were flying as that was the first 8.60,s run by a SS/AA car and Bobby D,s Camaro was the first official 9 second run by a Stocker as he went 9.997 today an Joe Aluise went 10.01 in his 63 Ply yesterday! Man thats fast even for NHRA stockers and superstockers! So thats one for the Chevy guys as I say hats off to Bobby D and his 9 second Camaro stocker and Harry Holton for the first 8.60,s in a SS/AA superstocker! Ron

[Kurt S]

Belair62,
Was that Riv a doctor's car out of Chicago?
If so, I looked at it several years ago in the Detroit area (Taylor or Dbn Hghts, I think). Needed some body work and paint, but had been cared for most of its life and was still complete, including the dual quads. The guy was into Buicks and had several. Think he wanted $2500 for the Riv, probably 8-10 years ago.

Kurt

[Chevy454]

Well, if you "Pure Stock Drag" guys are interested in a forum here, then let me know, or you can just use the regular forum. Either way, we are happy to have you guys here. Maybe you guys can help keep us honest, and help us to see that their other brands besides GM...right? Anyway, makes no difference to me. In fact, I mentioned to Dan about 1 1/2 years ago that the PSMCDR site needed a forum... http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[Mike Wowk]

sounds good to me

[Belair62]

Kurt S.It may have been. I got it from the owner of an old Arco gas station. 65 Rivs had a tag on the console.I remember the name like it was yesterday. It Read"Custom Built For Don McDermott" It also had a real old set of 3 Airguide gauges mounted on the console....Tach, Vacuum and oil/amps/water.They were about 3" gages.These were installed at the dealer ! I am sure if the car exists they will still be on it.

[COPO PETE]

Rob; I think you better talk to Dan before you set up a Pure Stock forum, after all, it is his party. Also in all fairness to Dave Greene and his bunch, they worked hard to have a great BB. Just because there having some technical difficulties, I don't think all the members should or would be totally jumping ship. I personally watched both and even sneak into the Moparts section every now and then (only when I'm feeling reckless.) http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif I think a wait and see attitude is not a bad idea right now.
Peter

[Casey Marks]

COPO PETE in MOPARTS ?????? http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/shocked.gif

I must say that MOPARTS is one of the premier Mopar sites out there. If you guys feel *reckless* like Pete, and wanna hear about the Pentastar bunch, I'd recommend that site highly.

I agree with Pete. Any interest in anything to do with the PSMCDR, etc. should be run by Dan.

[Mike Wowk]

Now we know how Pete gets his Shivvys to run so good! I think the PSMCDR site would be the best place for it, but does Dan want to do it? How much is involved in setting up one of these things? Is it just a matter of buying software? Bob Bodens' son is the one who does their site(thats what I was told anyhow). I'm sure the Buick board will be up soon also. But then again I wonder if the Buick club really wants a bunch of strangers cruising their site?? So much for club secrets.

[Chevy454]

I agree 100% guys. Thats why I haven't done anything yet. The only way I would have made a move is if the Buick board had NOT been brought back up (which it will be according to Dave G.), or if Dan/Bob had asked me to do something.

Like Mike said, I feel that Dan/Bob's site is the natural place for a message board where the Pure Stock guys can hang out. For us newbies to the event, the PSMCDR web site is one of the first places we head to learn about the event. But, the Buick guys should be thanked for giving us a place to hang out, as they have taken a lot of heat, yet still provided a place for us to hang out.

I mentioned something to Dan about a year or so ago about a message board, and he told me that Bob's son ran the PSMCDR site, so I left it at that. I didn't want to seem like a pain in the a**, so I had to do some searching until I found where most of brands hang out. Let's see...I found the Buicks, Mopars, and Studes...so, where are the Ford and Chevy guys hanging out? Maybe a simple link from Dan/Bob's site to the PMSCDR forum on the Buick board would work?

[COPO PETE]

Rob; What is the address for the Stude site. Thought I would read up on the glotting on them beating up on your little brother in the Yenko. I bet the letter in MCR really made all the Stude members there proud! http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif ...."most importantly, a 427 Yenko Camaro" ...give me a break!
Peter

[Casey Marks]

Yeah, that letter by one of the Studes was pretty dorky. How fast do you think those things would be without a hoofer attached ? Probably be a good run for my dually. http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

PS - Let's not loose steam on our *TOW VEHICLE SHOOTOUT* - can't forget the fun stuff ........... http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[Chevy454]

Pete:

Here is where the Studebaker guys generally hang out: http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=studebaker This is the archive for there newsgroup (I am a member of the newsgroup also). Do a search on "yenko", and enjoy the reading http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif. I have a bunch of the threads regarding our car (known as the "loser Yenko" to some on that newsgroup) printed off on a piece of paper that I am using for "inspiration".

I would LOVE a rematch, but of a "certified" Stude versus our "certified" Yenko. I haven't really said anything to the Stude guys about any of there comments, but the letter kind of "got my attention". Oh well...we'll see if our rebuild will lower our ET any... http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

Casey:

So, a tow vehicle shootout...any entrants so far? How about a category for BIGGEST tow vehicle/trailer?

[Mike Wowk]

Casey,
I will be ready pretty soon!! I am getting a plug in chip and a set of marine injectors, Hows 330 horsepower and 870 ft lbs at the rear wheels sound. Whats even cooler it dont void the warranty or hurt mileage as long as you dont drive like an idoit http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif Cummins- The Ultimate Driving Machine!!

[Ron Nies]

Pete is right but if you do start one here I would use both of them as I enjoy hearing everyone comments! Ron

[COPO PETE]

Aw come on! Let's not start this tow vehicle
thing again! Just when I thought it was safe to go on line again. What's next? A ten page run on about a small block Corvette being a Supercar or not. http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif Rob, Thanks for the info on the Stude sight. I kept typing in Stud instead of Stude....not very much car related stuff there at all! http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif
Peter

[Casey Marks]

Rob, rOb, RoB, you had to go and give me the Studes site ....... what's a guy to do ..... I thought it was fun with the Buick boyz ...... you ain't seen nothin' yet. http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

I got into the board, but do you have a specific thread about the Pure Stocks, or that silly reply in Post Exchange, or slamming your yellow car ???

[Chevy454]

So, Pete...Stude does not equal Stud?! I bet you found some "interesting" stuff when you searched for Stud! There isn't a whole lot that doesn't go on over there that isn't Stude related, but it is good for a change of pace.

Mike:

I have a couple of friends with Cummins tow rigs...would mind divulging how much the upgrades set you back? Did Jim Haas (Buick528) hook you up with the mods?

Casey:

There are several threads concerning the Pure Stock Drags, mainly telling about what cars the Stude ran against. The archive @ Google is a good place to search for any topics, and you can also search a TON of other news groups for any topics. I ran across a bunch of newsgroups I now read by way of the Stude page (which used to be Deja.com).

[Casey Marks]

Thanks Rob .....

Just spent some time siftin' thru their banter .....

They just don't get it, do they ?? If you wanna get someone wound up about the Studes, just ask my buddy, Brian Stefina (61 283/270 Vette), about them the next time you see him. He will bring you to tears talkin' about those guys.

I will reserve any further comment at this time ...... http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/crazy.gif

[Mike Wowk]

Jim's who you need to talk to about the diesel stuff. I think the "chip" is about $795 and the injectors are $65 each?

As far as the musclecar chat room goes I think it would be nice if it were on neutral ground(PSMCDR). This is not to say the Buick club have not been gracious hosts. If anything they have taken alot of abuse on their oun site and never complained. Hats off to Dave Greene and the rest of the Buick Boys!!

Us pure stock racers are a rare breed. Whenever I tried to talk about it on the Moparts site I was just about run off the site(I'm exagerating)But most of those guys didn't get it.Ron is one of the few on that site that apreciate how much work goes into a good running"stock" car.

[BUIZILLA]

Mike, special deal this month goin on...

Plug N Play box is $550

Injectors are $48 each, new outright

such 'a deal...

Jim

[Ron Nies]

Mike its funny you say that as this very weekend I went to a car show and a friend brought out his 70 Torino GT with a 351 Cleveland and Shaker hood and the car looked good! When I said this is a great car for the PSD races my Mopar buddies said there he goes again! There just isnt alot of Mopar people on Moparts into the stock drags and thats ok as I like em all but I know I cant afford to compete with the Pro Street guys but I think I could run a Pure stock car without going broke or my wife leaving me and I like the challenge of seeing how fast I can get one to go as it reminds me of growing up and seeing them driving on the streets when they were new!And I just like stock looking muscle cars that run good! Ron

[Edited by Ron Nies (05-08-2001 at 10:55 PM).]

[Mike Wowk]

OK Ron, But we're talkin about musclecars. I don't see where a Ford fits into this discussion? http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

[COPO PETE]

Yeah... the same argument works for tractor discussions! http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif
Peter

[Mike Wowk]

Pete,
Shouldn't you be using this time to scrape chicken droppings off your cars instead of giving me a hard time? http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

Pete,
Do you use 14" and 15" Polyglas tires on your cars? And if so do you see that the 15's are better(traction wise) than the 14's? Or if there is anyone else with knowlege feel free to jump in.

[Edited by Mike Wowk (05-09-2001 at 07:20 AM).]

[COPO PETE]

Mike; I've only used 14" rims, never 15". I would like to try as I think they would work better, but this is pure stock don't you know. Sorry got to go scrap the droppings off my cars now. I used to think it was chicken droppings but am now getting suspicious that it might be road runner $hit. http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif
Peter

[Mike Wowk]

http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif

[Casey Marks]

Dernit Rob ..... you can't have all the fun with the Studes......

How the HELL do you post on a GOOGLE forum ? I've never done it before.....one might call me a *STUDE-VIRGIN* ............

[COPO PETE]

...ditto http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/frown.gif

[Chevy454]

Well guys, that's the down side of the Studes(hah!)...the Google site is just a list of archived messages, taken from the Usenet newsgroup. Sooo...to post a message, you have to subscribe to the alt.autos.studebaker newsgroup. Really easy, and there are TONS of other newsgroups out there that discuss musclecars. Like 15,000+(?) on Usenet...a bunch, anyway.

Now, after you get setup with a news account, and you are tired of messing with the Studes, let me know, and I will show you a thread where a couple of guys SWEAR up and down stock muscle cars CAN'T/DIDN't run 12s, and no small block cars other than the new LT-1/LS-1 cars can run 13s...happy reading!

[COPO PETE]

Boy, they don't get out much, eh! http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

eh!

[Chevy454]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Boy, they don't get out much, eh! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That it is an understatement! The particular argument I was referring to was on a Mustang newsgroup, and the basis for his argument was old magazine tests. He said when the cars were tested originally, they didn't run 12s, but when I pointed out some slow times for the new cars, he said that I dug up the slowest times I could find, and that they were not indicative of the cars true performance. It was real close to being really ugly, but I realized he wasn't going to open his mind, so I pretty much dropped it. Heck, I even invited him to the Pure Stock Drags, but he said they didn't interest him!

As for the Studes, I will have to say that most of them are civil, and have been nothing but positive towards the "encounters" between our cars. But, like any group, they have their bad apples, which seem to get the attention of people like me. As for the comments from those bad apples...while some might call them "put downs"...I call them motivation! http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[COPO PETE]

Oh behave Marlin! I'm from Canada.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Pete,
We had a lot of fun with the 'eh's!' with you guys when we were at the Pure Stock race a few years ago, especially with the prior owner of your Cortez Silver COPO Nova. What was his name, and how is he doing? Will he be bringing something to the race one of these years?
M

[COPO PETE]

Marlin; Paul is doing great. He and some of the boyz are suppose to be putting a road trip together for Michigan for Dan and Bob's race. If you've ever seen the movie 'Road Trip" That's pretty much what it will turn out as. http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif I think he's expecting you and Neil and the rest of that crew. What should I tell him?
Peter

[Steven J]

It looks like they may be making some progress on the GSCA bulletin board.