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Dave Rifkin
08-31-2001, 12:23 AM
In 1970 my parents went to Motion Performance to look into buying a Phase III Camaro. We saw a brown Z28 that was being turned into a Phase III car but what really caught our eyes was the pearl yellow 1969 Phase III GT Corvette that was in the showroom. That had to be the most beautiful Corvette that I had ever seen. I know that there were very few of these cars made so I was wondering if anyone here has any idea where that car might be? I'd love to learn about the history and the whereabouts of that car.
We also saw a candy apple red VW beetle in the showroom that had been modified by the Motion crew. They even had an Iso Grifo in the side lot when we first arrived. I'll never forget that day and those cars.

MadMike
08-31-2001, 03:35 AM
I know one 1970 GT 454 vette lasted a couple days. Left NY, went to TX and that was the end of it.

Hopefully the car you're inquiring about didn't meet a similar fate.

GMH454
08-31-2001, 03:43 AM
Joel Rosen actually bought and restored what looked like a Yelow Phase 111 in the early 90's(?)
Could have been this one. Will try to look it up and put up a post of picture (????)
It was featured in Vette. Hopefully someone can beat me to it.
Sounds like it was a real day to remember.

MadMike
08-31-2001, 05:24 AM
Could be this car. Sorry for the poor photo. The cars in a bad spot. There was a 1995? issue of Vette in the car with this thing on the cover (as well as little lady wearing next to nothing standing next to it).

I have a couple other semi-fair photos of this car - it's a 1970 though. When I was BS'ing about this car Joel said he built a couple (several actually) and then mentioned the one that didn't last too long.

http://www.motionperformance.com/70gtrear.jpg

MadMike
08-31-2001, 05:28 AM
Here's a better (if you can call it that) view of the car. Vrroom Vroom. http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif

http://www.motionperformance.com/70motgt1.jpg

Dave Rifkin
08-31-2001, 11:36 AM
That looks like it could be the car if it is pearl yellow and not just Daytona Yellow. Also I don't recall the tail lights being that large. I thought that the slotted lights were thinner. I was only eight so my memory could be a little off. Either way, that car was really hot.
I think what prompted my parents to go there was the fact that we had just been to the NY Auto Show where we saw the Motion cars. I believe there was a Phase III Camaro and a Maco Shark there.
In the end my parents wound up buying a 1969 Shelby GT500 fastback with the 428 SCJ. Not a Phase III car but still pretty awesome in it's own right.

Charley Lillard
08-31-2001, 02:00 PM
Oh Man I'm a Sucker for Yellow...Cool Car...If I could sneak that car into my Barn I know exactly where it would sit.

bullitt
09-01-2001, 02:35 PM
Going through my magazines, I came upon the November 1996 issue of Car Craft. Mr.Miles Cook did an article on Joel Rosen's '70 Phase III Corvette. It was pictured next to a B-17 WWII bomber. My scanner is dead, so I don't have a way to post the pics. By the way, who makes a good reproduction of those Lemans gas caps? See ya.--Bullitt

Pantera
12-23-2005, 02:19 AM
You should have seen the look on Joels face the night at SCR-6 that I told him the '70 454 GT vette that went to Texas was still in one piece. It is a good thing that we were inside the hotel. Otherwise he would have swallowed a fly.

he told me that the 18 yr old owner had called him up years ago and told him he had wrecked it when it only had about 6k mi on it. All this time Joel had thought it didnt' exist anymore and was totaled. (It has been damaged on the L front but was repaired when I got it).

I bought that car way back in early 1974 in Dallas. It was at SCR7 in unrestored condition after a few wanted to see it before I took it apart.

Of course you should have see the look on my face when Joel told me that since it had a alum head LS-7 put in it and that it was the most expensive GT he had build out of the 10 cars. I thought it was a LS-6 originally with alum heads. I had gone to the repair shop that put the new cast iron LS-6 crate motor in for the car dealer and tried to buy the old motor that came out but they wanted just too much for it and it was blown up at that time. I didn't know the difference back then. $700 on top of buying the car for a grand over what a 70 vette was going for at that time had tapped me out. Wish now that I had not passed on the motor.



Pantera

Motion Camaro
12-23-2005, 09:02 AM
<font color="blue">Back in 1977 in Westchester, NY
there was a Orange/Black Phase III Corvette that cruised our area.
All I remember was the kids name was John &amp; you could here that car coming from miles away.
Open sidepipes, 454 Phase III, 4spd w/ Hone OD ...
.... and that sound .... phew .... unforgetable, to this day! </font>

Dave Rifkin
12-23-2005, 04:25 PM
The Phase III GT I remember seeing at Motion Peformance was a 1969 Corvette. It did not have the stinger stripe down the side; just the black tail panel with the wrap around stripe on the rear section. I also don't recall it having the slotted tail lamps and, if it did, they weren't as large as the ones in the picture above. The hood striping was different too; I think it just had the center stripe and not the wrap around stripe and finally the car was definately pearl yellow and not Daytona yellow. Oh yeah, the car had a 427 in it and not a 454.
I was only 8 years old at the time but that car and the visit to Motion Performance left quite the impression. Heck for all I know my parents were talking to Joel in the "showroom" area where the car was located. We even walked back in an area where they had a Berry Mini-Tub and in a service bay we saw a brown with white stripe Camaro being turned into a Phase III Camaro.
If only I could travel back in time.

budnate
12-24-2005, 01:35 AM
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Going through my magazines, I came upon the November 1996 issue of Car Craft. Mr.Miles Cook did an article on Joel Rosen's '70 Phase III Corvette. It was pictured next to a B-17 WWII bomber. My scanner is dead, so I don't have a way to post the pics. By the way, who makes a good reproduction of those Lemans gas caps? See ya.--Bullitt

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Pantera
12-24-2005, 01:57 AM
That it is much smaller than one that Motion used.

A Vette cap is 5 3/4" across and the pop-up caps that Joel used are that same size. The mount should also be round not shaped like that one.

It looks to be a lot smaller than one that was used on the corvettes Joel sold. They also did not have the lettering on the top of the cap like that one does.

I bet that is a boat cap of somekind.

Pantera

Pantera
12-24-2005, 01:58 AM
My first impression is that it is much smaller than one that Motion used.

I would ask the seller on that cap what it measures. A Vette cap is 5 3/4" across and the pop-up caps that Joel used are that same size. The mount should also be round not shaped like that one.

It looks to be a lot smaller than one that was used on the corvettes Joel sold. They also did not have the lettering on the top of the cap like that one does.

I bet that is a boat cap of somekind.

Pantera

KNAPPY
12-24-2005, 02:21 AM
Larry,

When are you going to come down here and take me for a ride in that car??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Motion Camaro
12-25-2005, 08:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
By the way, who makes a good reproduction of those Lemans gas caps? See ya.--Bullitt

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<font color="blue">When I was at the PRI show I got a CD
from a company the makes them in 6 different sizes.
I will post a link when I get back to work. </font>
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/178331-motion_cap%28Medium%29.jpg

Motion Camaro
12-31-2005, 09:28 AM
<font color="blue">The 3-1/2" Aston caps (http://www.batinc.net/mocal.htm) (center) look about correct.
Size is inner hole opening. </font>

http://www.thinkauto.com/images/enots.jpg

ghostvette
01-08-2006, 02:33 AM
1996z15 could this vette your talking about have been a stock bodied vette like the green one that sold at barret jackson last year ? without fixed headlights , and stock tail lights just painted pearl yellow with black striping? or did it have the full body kit? just curious!

Dave Rifkin
01-08-2006, 06:58 AM
I am almost certain that it had the full body kit with the exposed headlights and the fastback window; etc.

4MyChevelles
02-09-2006, 03:11 AM
I have an actual one here I'll try to post a picture of it
I'm willing to trade it for other Motion item,
I have two of these, will sell or trade only one.

I will not Ebay any Motion Items at this time just drop me a line with an offer.
I am only willing to let one of the two go ,
I drove a long way for these things...and loved every second of that drive http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hey Larry! How have ya been? Haven't talked with you in a while

I will try to post this picture ??
Be patient I'll figure it out

Pantera
02-11-2006, 03:27 AM
Hey Rick,

Great to hear from you. Not much going on down here. way behind on working on my cars. Too many pressing problems to get to them yet. Fire in my kitchen, and renovating my rent houses and now the city on my ass, not to mention the ole lady is recovering from surgery. It just never seems to stop.

One of these days I will get some extra time for me.....

hope everything is going good for you.

Pantera
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Dave Rifkin
03-10-2007, 04:47 PM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a broken record I am going to ask about a particular Phase III GT that I noticed on the cover of my Feb. 2005 Corvette Fever magazine. A gold Phase III GT that I believe went through the BJ auction not too long ago.
This car could be the one that I saw in the Motion showroom as a kid. If anyone is familiar with the history of this car, would you happen to know if the Shelby side scoops were added later in the cars life or were they there right from the start?
The car I am talking about has all of the cues that I recall; gold paint (could have been referred to as "Pearl yellow" back then), smaller tail light slots (not quite as large as others I have seen)remove the red "427" badges from the tail panel and you'd have the car I remember as a kid.
I don't know why I am so obsessed with finding the car I saw as a kid; maybe it is just that the car made such an impression on me as a car loving 8 year old.

If anyone knows the car that I speak of and it's history I would appreciate it if you could confirm the history of the Shelby side scoops and if the red "427" badges were added later as well.

Xplantdad
03-10-2007, 05:40 PM
Dave, are you talking about this car?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/xplantdad/tn_DSCF0343.jpg

Here's George's contact info...

George! (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showprofile.php?Cat=0&amp;User=1428&amp;page=6&amp;what=showme mbers)

55chevy
03-10-2007, 07:07 PM
I believe it was that way from the start.. It was on the cover of Speed and Supercar mag I believe in 1969. Not sure what issue this is. I don't have the actual magazine.

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/257933-74574-PhaseIIIVette.jpg

Dave Rifkin
03-10-2007, 11:40 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Dave, are you talking about this car?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/xplantdad/tn_DSCF0343.jpg

Here's George's contact info...

George! (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showprofile.php?Cat=0&amp;User=1428&amp;page=6&amp;what=showme mbers)

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Yes, that would be the car. Seeing the previous reply stating that the car had the Shelby scoops from the very start I guess I can rule out this car as being the one that I remember seeing.
I can't believe it's so hard to find even a picture of that car; maybe I was dreaming. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif