Fencl Tufo and Brigance Chevrolet

[Stefano]

These Chicago/area dealers sold many HI-PO chevys. I have seen Super Sports and L-78 cars. Anyone know of any COPO cars?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Stefano;
Fencl Tufo sold at least 6 Yenko Deuce Novas, of which 4 are accounted for. Fencl sold at least one each of the three special colors; Huggar Orange, Sunflower Yellow, and Citrus Green cars. In addition to those three they sold a Gobi Beige, Forest Green and Cranberry Red Yenko Deuce's. The Citrus Green car can be seen on this board under the 'vintage photos' section, it has not been found.

I am not aware of any Supercars being sold at Berganse.
M

[sixtiesmuscle]

There was a Brigance Chevrolet. Is that the one refered to?

[Mr70]

Fencl-Tufo in Glendale Heights,Your Monster Dealer!
I remember those corny commercials in the late 70's.Using Monster puppets on TV.
I was constantly over their in High School where I bought my 1972 SS Chevelle.Those guys were nuts over there.They would do anything Hi-po that a customer wanted.Cash was king.
I have never heard of Berganse Chevrolet.Where were they?

[Belair62]

That was Brigance Chevrolet.....were the heck were they ? Fencl also did an Elvis thing in their ads...Mancuso Chevrolet was also a pretty big dealer in the area and sold some hi-po stuff.A friend in High School had what I remember as a 1970 LT-1 Nova SS in Astro blue or whatever name they used for that color on Novas. I haven't seen him in years so I cant verify if it was a 70 or 71.

[Edited by Belair62 (10-30-2001 at 03:49 PM).]

[sixtiesmuscle]

Brigance was in Oak Park. IL., I think.

[Belair62]

Thanks sixties.I think you may have a year or 2 on me.You probably went down to Oak Park to look at cars AFTER you had a juicy Talian beef sangwich wit peppersh over der by Johnnies on Nort Avenue wit all dose guyz.

[Stefano]

I am not certain as to the spelling. We are discussing the same dealership. I believe it was within the Chicago City limits. The neighborhood definately had an Italian flair, to say the least.

Does any one remember the 'Mr. Ed' advs., for all your hi-po needs? Mr. Ed handled all the "special orders". These orders also included any COPO orders.

According to Mr. Ed he ordered more than a few COPO Camaros, Chevelles and Novas.

Mr. Ed is a very successful Chevrolet Dealer today.

[Steven J]

I was just at Johnnies last week. Make sure that you don't hold the door open while waiting in line or he'll yell at you !

[Belair62]

Which guy the skinny guy ? He is something else...try Frannies on River just north of Irving..I think they may even be better...Stefano...what dealer is Mr.Ed's now ? I dont remember the commercials but I remember seeing a lot of trunk stickers with Brigance on them.

[Edited by Belair62 (10-30-2001 at 08:34 PM).]

[ChrisS]

From paperwork I've seen in the last few years and having spent 30 years on the Nothwest side of Chicago, I know there was one Chevy dealer in Oak Park on Madison between Austin and Oak Park Ave, maybe the 500-600 block but I personally don't remember it or the name. There was also a dealer on North Ave. within the city limits around 5200-5600 West. There is a member of the NCRS who bought his '57 fuely (and still owns it) from this dealer but I believe he said it closed/moved sometime in the 60's. Could one of these be Brigance?

[Edited by ChrisS (11-03-2001 at 10:17 AM).]

[Belair62]

Yes,I'm pretty sure Sixtiesmuscle was correct that Brigance was in Oak Park but the North avenue address is sure as close as you can get to Oak Park so this may be a little tricky...

[ChrisS]

I know this is an old thread, but I've found some ads from 1968 that will clarify this.
Bergl Chevrolet was located at 5400 W. Cermak (I believe this would be Cicero, Ill.)
Dick Fencl Chevrolet (probably the predecessor to Fencl-Tufo in Elmhurst) was located at 137 Madison in Oak Park, Ill.
Still working on the dealership name that was located on North Ave.
Another dealer in the Chicago area that seems to have run ads for hi-perf and Corvettes in this time period was Clark-Maple Chevrolet 1038 N. Clark, Chicago.

[hvychev]

I know that this is a REALLY REALLY old post but my mechanic Gary Grasham Worked at Brigance Chevrolet in Oak Park, IL from 1969-1976. His late partner Frank Krummer also worked there from 1967-1979 untill they opened a shop together in Berwyn, IL in 1979. Mr. Ed of Chicago supercar dealer fame was head of teh Hi-Po dept at Brigance untill he moved on to Fencil-Tufo Chevrolet in Glendale Heights, IL where he marketed and sold many Yenko Deuce Novas. This sitcker has been on Frank's tool box since the muscle car days of the 60's. I took this picture yesterday. I know that some of you will like it.

BTW after reading the post by Chris he also has a Clark-Maple sticker right next to the Brigance Sticker on his tool box. I will get a pic of it as well this week.


http://216.136.200.194/auction/Jan/20031183547160138643817.jpg

[Mr70]

Great Picture Frank.
Mr.Ed says Hello and has to much to do lately.
Is that decal possible to remove and sell?
Rick

[hvychev]

No. If it was I would have it already! /ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[Belair62]

Take some good pics and measurements and I'll bet you can have a sticker guy reproduce it.Maybe even a tracing for exact size..

[Mr70]

My thoughts exactly Bob..
Do it Frank!

[hvychev]

Rick, believe it or not I know where their is another Brigance sticker. The guy that sold me my Chevelle restored a 1967 Chevelle SS for one of his customers and removed an original Brigance sticker and had it reproduced. He kept the original and I will ask him if I can have it reproduced. I am going back to Garys shop this week to take a pic of the Clark-Maple sticker as well. I will let you guys know if I get a copy of the Brigance sticker.

BTW I wish that I had my digital camera this summer. I saw a guy with I think an early 60's Impala at Sams Club of all places with an original Bergl Chevrolet still on the back of it. Remember they were located on Cermak Rd in Cicero. They closed in 1970 and sold the ticket to Jack Phelan Chevrolet where I started in the car business.

[Stefano]

Cool Pic Frank, thanks for posting.

[hvychev]

For those interested here is the dealer decal from Clark-Maple Chevrolet in Chicago that I said I would post.

After talking to my mechanic Gary today he told me that his late partner Frank worked at Clark-Maple for a short time before returning to Brigance. It seems that he left Brigance Chevrolet to follow Joe Seputes the Corvette mechanic from Brigance who aquired an administrative position at Clark-Maples service dept. Joe S is still with us and owns a shop called Veteran Automotive in IL. I have known of him for years and never knew that he was a long time Brigance tech as well. Joe preforms many NCRS level Corvette restorations today.

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[bkhpah]

I just love those dealer decals and emblems!...BKH

[Belair62]

Me too.....It would be nice if whoever has any type of dealer badge/decal/license frames to please share with us all.

[ssl78]

My LS-6 was sold new at Brigance,The address on the build sheet says charged to 15W chicago ave Oak Park and shipped to 6558 w Grand Ave Chicago Il. I grew up in Elmwood Park and still go back to Johnnies when the line isnt a block long.

[Stefano]

John,
I was digging through some old magazines circa 1982 and found a Brigance sold 1968 L89 Camaro featured. Not too many of those produced.

[Mr70]

Frank M.
Any luck with getting that Brigance Decal repoduced?

[ssl78]

Stefano it seems like Brigance is one of those dealers that is not talked much about. I rember growing up this was definetly known as a high performance dealer. I am sure there are many cool cars sold out of there.

[Stefano]

With all the Hot Muscle cars that they did sell, I am surprised that they didn't find out about the COPO Super Car process.

[hvychev]

Rick it is funny that you mentioned it. I talked to my friend Bill who has the sticker and I think that I might be able to get ahold of it this weekend. I know that I will have to get a copy for most of our Chi-town members /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif and ssl78 I will definately get you one to put on your LS-6.

The mechanic Frank that I mentioned in an above post that worked there told me that he bought a brand new 69 SS L78 Camaro in LeMans Blue brand new from there and traded it in on a brand new 1970 Chevelle LS5 454 black with white stripes that he used as a tow car for his boat!! Gary my mechanic that worked there told me that they sold many hi performance cars their and remembers that when he worked in the office in the late 60's swipeing all of those protecto-plates on the hi-po cars when they were in after they broke from being beat on! He told me that he remembers cars comming in on tow trucks that still had the white shoe polish on the windows from cars that came from the race track. Even though the cars were blown up or broken while racing he said that the service manager would say "Fix it, she's under warranty!" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Kurt S]

Just found this quote:
"The very first thing we do is get the people into the car and have them drive it. We have a demonstrator ready to go......what people are looking for is performance. We put them out in the automobile and we tell them to floor it, pass somebody and the engine sells itself. The 305 has the performance that people are looking for. It's all the power they need," says Ed Conforti, FENCL-TUFO CHEVROLET.

From PRO (Chev. Dealer Productivity publication) on 'Selling Tips on 305 V8', January 1977.

Things had changed since 1969! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Mr70]

One of my Fondest memories as a young boy/Teen,back then,was Fencl-Tufo's commercials.
They were known as"The Monster Dealer",and used very intrique Monster hand puppets in their Advertising..
Those damn Puppets were Scary and Hillarious at the same time.I can still see them in my Sleep! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Belair62]

Didn't they also have an Elvis type song and called themselves Chevy City ??? Or was that a different dealer all together...

[hvychev]

I could swear that I have heard that name Ed Conforti as still being active in the car biz. (Their are a lot of these old war horse car guys still around in the Chi-Town car market!) I went to high school with a guy that has the same name. (could be his son?) Fencil-Tufo must have been open for a while because when I was looking for a Monte Carlo SS I looked at an all original 1988 that had the window sticker and Fencil Tofo was the selling dealer. I think that they went out of business because of some sort of illegal activities or bad business practices?

[hvychev]

I noticed that my posted pics disappeared of the Brigance decal, and Clark Maple decal since that crappy pic host site I used went out of business. I will re post them along with a couple of new ones for any site member or surfer that happens to have a car from one of these dealers and would like to see the dealer decal.

Brigance Chevrolet, Oak Park, IL dealer decal

[hvychev]

Clark Maple Chevrolet, Chicago IL (North side)

[hvychev]

Here is a dealer that I never heard of called Circle Chevrolet. They were on the South side of Chi-town on Racine and something or other. The car that this sticker was on was a 70 Nova 6 cyl that was kind of like a found in a barn story. The current owner bought the car from the original owners estate a couple of years ago. It is ALL original except for a repaint because of some body dents. The sticker was relocated to the back window after the repaint. Really neat car.

[hvychev]

This sticker was on a 74-75 Mailbu. The dealer is Jim Link Chevrolet which was located in La Grange IL. They went out of business in 1992. My all original Monte Carlo SS was sold new there in 1986. The dealer decal on my Monte looks similar to this one. (Still looking for plate frames though!!)

[nova67]

Dick fencil was on madison Brigance on Chicago ave both in Oak Park. Fencil was also Fencil-Bogan at one time.

[nova67]

I know this is an old post but i'm new to the site. I know Seputes and went to his house back in the early 70's to buy a big block cam. he uncovered the motor and pulled it out. At that time he was at brigance as vette mechanic. I remember his driver was a 70 Caprce shadow grey 454.

[nova67]

Hey John my uncle probably did the new car get ready he worked there from 60 until they closed. Tom Barkley E-mail me atPstoms@aol.

[hvychev]

At least a couple of Fencl family members must have been in the auto business.

This one is Ray Fencl Ford, Inc. Located on 418 W Burlington. Lagrange, ILL which was not that far from Oak Park where Dick Fencl and Fencl-Bogan were. This post card is from 1960.

[ssl78]

Hi Tom, havent heard from you in a while. I am almost done restoring the LS6 maybe if your uncle is still around he can come and do the new car prep again.

[ChrisS]

John, Stefano, or anyone else, did Service Chevrolet on Harlem Ave. in Elmwood Park handle any hi-po cars? I just saw one of their dealer decals on a car the other day, but didn't have my dig camera with me. I remember driving by there several times a week in the '70s, but not much of a recollection as to details.

[Belair62]

Dang...I lived near there for the first 8 years of my tender life !!!Wre you on the way to Johnnies Beef stand !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[ChrisS]

Belair,
I don't remember knowing about Johnnie's (or even Gossage Grill for breakfast) until after high school. I was probably headed north on Harlem to the old Harlem-Irving Drive-In Theatre or to the roller rink for some "trolling". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Belair62]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gifGossage Grill http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Did you mean The Hub on Harlem....!!!

[ChrisS]

The Hub, that's the one.
Did you get your headers and glass pacs installed at Iggy's? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[ssl78]

No Service Chevy did not have many HI Po cars. I lived in Elmwood Park and went by there a lot I do not remember seeing many Hi Po cars. When they went out of business I bought most there parts stock at their auction.I used to work at Johnnies and also Cassidy Tire next to Gossage grill. I give Johnnies 4 stars and Gossage 1-1/2. CRUISING HARLEM THOSE WERE THE DAYS.

[hvychev]

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[hvychev]

Have you guys ever seen one of these? Pretty cool. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[hvychev]

Here is a pic of the back. The salesmans name was Audie Kitchen....weird.

[hvychev]

Here is a pic of a Fencl Tufo Deuce as posted by Marlin in the vintage supercar photo section. Notice the shape of the rear dealer decal. It is the same as the shape on the lighter.

[68l30]

That lighter is hot or should I say striking..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Nice piece.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Steve

[camarojoe]

Cool lighter Frank...would make a nice display piece at SCR7. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[hvychev]

Very cool PC that I got.....

[hvychev]

Very cool stuff....

[hvychev]

Unopened deck of Chevrolet Playing cards still sealed in plastic with Fencl-Tufos logo on the back!

[hvychev]

Very Very cool Fencl Tufo salesmans jacket! This was bought by the previous owner for his girlfriend which he never gave her! The size is small and it is VERY small!

[camarojoe]

Dawg... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[hvychev]

Close up of patch.

[Mr70]

Thats the same Jacket Ali was wearing in 1984...

[DarrenX33]

Frank, cool jacket. What is the date on the jacket. It wonder if they did the "Monster" theme on any of there stuff?

[Bill Pritchard]

I seem to remember all the salesmen wearing those jackets (or something very similar) when I bought my new Z28 there in March of 1973.

[hvychev]

Another cool lighter. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[hvychev]

back side

[camarojoe]

Hey buddy... got a light? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[ssl78]

I met somebody the other day that bought a 1969 black auto buckets on the floor copo Camaro brand new from Brigance Chevy. He even remembered the salesman name was Mr. Ed. He is supposed to stop by in a week or two to bring some pictures of it.

[hvychev]

PLEASE keep us updated!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Stefano]

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[Stefano]

[ QUOTE ]
These Chicago/area dealers sold many HI-PO chevys. I have seen Super Sports and L-78 cars. Anyone know of any COPO cars?

[/ QUOTE ]


Many years ago I met with "Mr. Ed" and he explained his involvement with Brigance Chevrolet and selling Hi-Po Muscle cars. Some of the car he mentioned ordering and selling were COPO 427 Camaros and Chevelles.

I let him know that to the best of my knowledge none had been found. He assured me that he did without question order these COPO cars.

I met an Individual at the most recent Vette/Fest who happens to have ordered and taken Delivery of a Black/Black COPO Camaro, in September of 1969. He ordered the car in May. Mr. Ed took the 1969 L78 Nova he had just recently sold him, back on trade.

He recalls paying $3,150.00 for the Nova, and getting $2,900.00 on trade against $3,800.00 for the COPO.

The COPO had very few options. He confirmed that other steet racers also went to Mr. Ed and purchased several COPO Camaros and at least one COPO Chevelle. He also mentioned that some of the street racers went to Bernard Chevrolet in Libertyville (North West Side) to purchase COPO cars http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

His Copo was street raced (Norh Ave) untill he left for his tour of Duty, in Vietnam that December. His parents sold the car soon thereafter.

He has pictures of the car but no docs. The story of how he came to know about the factory 427 cars is very interesting but I'll let him fill in the details http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[hvychev]

Stefano, that was very exciting to hear about at Vette Fest. When I got back to work on that Monday, (I am a Sales Manager at Mr. Ed's Chevy dealer) I told him about the COPO story. Remember he is NOT into these cars and does NOT EVER go on the Internet. All this is from his memory. Before I told him the figures of what the guy paid he said, "Oh yeah the COPO Camaros I sold were about $3850." I couldn't believe it. It was almost dead on with what the Doctor at Vette Fest told Stefano.

On a related subject Mr. Ed and I went to Mecum auction and he ran into a guy that he knows who was selling his all original 70 Black stripeless LS6 Chevelle sold out of Mills Chevrolet in Moline, IL. The guy told him that a guy came up to him and told him that he had the TWIN to that car that he bought from Brigance Chevrolet from a Mr. Ed. He also told him that two of his other friends bought LS6's from Ed as well. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Amazing that all these people remember there car salesman from 35-40 years ago. Ask your self if you remember your car sales man from even 2 years ago! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Salvatore]

The gentlemen that sold me my first car a 69 nova SS was Walter Nelson, from Mullin Motors in Ambler, Pa. He told my dad that I didn't need a posi rear because I would wear out tires to fast! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif Frankie, I could probably tell you every dealership and salesman I ever bought a car from. New and used! Sam

[Xplantdad]

I agree Sam...but what did you have for dinner two nights ago? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[DarrenX33]

[ QUOTE ]
He told my dad that I didn't need a posi rear because I would wear out tires to fast!

[/ QUOTE ]

It's just not the same without the hand gestures. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Salvatore]

[ QUOTE ]
I agree Sam...but what did you have for dinner two nights ago? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]I am sure it was something fattening! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Xplantdad]

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[ORIGLS6]

[ QUOTE ]
Amazing that all these people remember there car salesman from 35-40 years ago. Ask your self if you remember your car sales man from even 2 years ago! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

1:45 PM
June 20th, 1970
Fred Gibb Chevrolet
LaHarpe, Il
Herb Fox

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[Mr70]

What a great way to spend a Saturday. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[hvychev]

Holy $hit Dennis! My parents were married the afternoon of June 20th 1970!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Xplantdad]

Frank, Ya damn youngster... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ORIGLS6]

[ QUOTE ]
Holy $hit Dennis! My parents were married the afternoon of June 20th 1970!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

"What a great way to spend a Saturday"
Yep, but I'll bet they had more fun than I did Saturday night.......... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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[Chevy Phil]

What a sence of humor !!! That's funny ! But I think your right on !

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[hvychev]

I don't even want to think of THAT! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[ORIGLS6]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif If they hadn't "thought of it", YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE!

[KLONECO]

YEA ...... A YOUNGSTER AMONG US? WO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gifW

[55chevy]

[ QUOTE ]
The guy told him that a guy came up to him and told him that he had the TWIN to that car that he bought from Brigance Chevrolet from a Mr. Ed. He also told him that two of his other friends bought LS6's from Ed as well. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Amazing that all these people remember there car salesman from 35-40 years ago. Ask your self if you remember your car sales man from even 2 years ago! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Frankie..nobody forgets an Ed http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

but you're right.. I bought the new GTO about 2 years ago....damned if I can remember the salesman... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[papason]

for those who are wondering I worked at Brigance and Ed at that time advertised himself as Mr.Ed the fastest gun in the west,that was in response to Mr Norm's Grand Spaulding Dodge,he would have young guys lined up waiting to see him so he could spec out their new sleeper,or SS.I worked for Ed who's last name is Schoenthaller ( forgive the spelling) when he was partners with John Tufo at West side Ford which was on roosevelt road and the expressway next to the cemetary,it's now a propane gas dealer.Ed was always into cars and is quite a collector even today,for those looking for the info on the muscle cars from Brigance he is the man to speak to.I don't recall the name but I know he now owns a Pontiac dealership in the west suburbs,perhaps some one else knows something,I would like to talk to anyone from the old Brigance days it was quite a place to work and really defied logic,we had great people to work with and it produced many of the dealers you see in business today.

[papason]

I worked with Audie Kitchen back at Brigance,it's amazing how many cars we sold there,I can recall selling my share of muscle cars.

[Stefano]

Compliments of Taboo.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/StefanoBimbi/Brigance%20Mr%20Ed/scan00221.jpg

[hvychev]

Here is some ore Birgace meorabilia including the ad Stefano just posted.

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[hvychev]

More

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[hvychev]

In the upper right hand corner are the ads.

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[Charley Lillard]

Hey !!! Frank woke up....Now show mesome Fencl-Tufo stuff...

[hvychev]

Charlie, here is some cool memorabilia.

A cool post card, NOS dealer decal, NOS unopened deck of Fencl Tufo Playing cards, and some lighters.

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[hvychev]

Here are some other cool items. A NOS never worn jacket from the dealership. A NOS book of service dept repair orders, and a cool flyer for some disco-mobiles! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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[camarojoe]

Cool stuff! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[hvychev]

Here is a really cool and rare piece of Fencl Tufo memorabilia. This is the ORIGINAL paperwork from Yenko Chevrolet to Fencl Tufo for the 1970 Yenko Deuce Nova known as "the Draggin Deuce." The car has not been found to our knowledge as of yet. Featured is the original Yenko invoice, carbon copy of the window sticker, and not shown is a special dealer card from Don Yenko to Yenko dealers. Also the blue thing is a "slide" from Fencl Tufo's slide board that they used to keep track of the dealers inventory. On back in pencil is the dealers cost of the car so the salesman knew where he was working from so the place could make a profit.

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/DSCN0361.JPG

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/DSCN0362.JPG

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/DSCN0363.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

Frankie...You might just have to cut loose of some of that for my Z.

[Mr70]

A few more "North Ave.Nice Guys" items to add,that I've picked up over the years..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20001.jpg



An NOS lighter still in the box from Audie Kitchens' desk,(Now w/Fencl-Tufo)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20003.jpg


Very hard to find-(or eat today)-circa 1970 Chevrolet Bowtie jelly candy that came from there.
These are difficult to find cause all the salesmen ate them up.
Also a "Friends" glass from there too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20004.jpg


A set of Champagne glasses that an old parts counterman gave me from there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20005.jpg

This 4 page flyer is from 1987 I believe..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20007.jpg


A unique set of NOS sequential numbered golfballs,still in their original 1970 boxes w/phone #.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/fencl20011.jpg

I have some vintage sign lights that came from Fencl-Tufos' Showroom & Parts Dept.,and three,(1968 gold & 69 orange & 70 blue),Chevrolet Salesmens' polyester suit coats that came from there too,but they only have the Chevrolet year logo on them,nothing to really identify they came from there..

[Born30YrsLate]

Nicely done Frankie...show me those polyester suit coats! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Mr70]

In hopes of cheering up a packer fan..

1968

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0001.jpg


1969's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0005.jpg


1970
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/ChevyJackets0007.jpg

[1969l78]

Cool stuff

[TimG]

Frank has all the neat stuff. I still have my Nortell Olds emblem mounted in my garage. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[hvychev]

Thanks Tim. I actually have a Nortell Olds emblem from when they were still in Cicero, IL before they moved to the north side where you guys bought the 442 convert. The one I sent you went to the perfect place. Now you just need to fine the car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[RayFencl]

It's interesting to see all of these posts about Fencl-Tufo and Brigance Chevrolet. Many car dealers sprouted from Dick Fencl Chevrolet. Here's some history. Dick Fencl started with Fencl Chevrolet in the 50's, then he brought in a partner by the Name of Pierce when he took a position with Greyhound Corporation. When he left Greyhound and bought out Pierce and Ralph Bogan, one of the founders of Greyhound joined him in the new partnership. Dick Fencl later bought out Bogan and then the store was named Dick Fencl Chevrolet. He also put his brother Ray in business with a Ford Dealership and his brother in law in business with Dick Z. Lincoln Mercury. During the 60's Dick Fencl Chevy was the number one seller of Corvettes in the Chicago Zone. As far as total sales, the Number 1 spot was rotated between Z-Frank, Brigance, Fencl and Nickey. They were the top Chevy dealers in the Chicago Zone. Z Frank did some Hi-Pro sales and Nickey, of course, the "The Purple People Eaters" that raced at Road America and Meadow Dale Raceway.

At this time Maury Ettleson was the Office Manager of Dick Fencl Chevy and Al Piemonte was the New Car Manager. Maury and Al left to buy Glenbrook Ford in Libertyvile. Then Al and Maury sold Glenbrook Ford and opened Al Piemonte Ford in Melrose Park.

Maury Ettleson wanted to get back in the Chevy business and he purchased a Chevy store in Elmhurst along with Dick Fencl and Nick Celozzi, who was the New Car Sales Manager at Al Piemonte Ford. That, of course, became Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet.

Johny Tufo was the Used Car Manager at Dick Fencl Chevrolet and he partnered with Dick Fencl to start Fencl-Tufo Chevrolet in Glendale. Johny brought several salesmen from Brigance Chevrolet and got into the high performance business.

After the riots in 1968, business slowed down for both Brigance and Dick Fencl in Oak Park and in 1969 Dick Fencl closed his Madison Ave. Store and Brigance lasted another year or so.

[mockingbird812]

Welcome aboard "Fencl". Thanks for the hx lesson!

[RPOLS3]

Whatever happened to the C/E dealership in Elmhurst? I believe there is now an Ettelson Cadillac but at what location?

My family bought a 74 Chevelle wagon and a 74 Chevelle coupe there brand new.

Jake

[wheelhop]

The Ettelson Cadillac dealership is at the intersection of LaGrange Road (45) and Joliet Road in Countryside, IL.

[Mr70]

Isn't that really Hodgkins?

Lotsa memories from that place..
I remember driving by there as we were coming home from Countyline Pizza on a Fall Sunday evening sometime during late 1971,and my Dad jumping on frontage rd.to get a better look at the new '72's.He was eyeing this 2dr. Chevelle,but my Mom steered him towards the wagons..We eventualy bought a Kingswood from them.
I met Nicks Celozzi's kid there once during the early 80's as he was an aspiring young actor.I think he appeared on the A Team,or some TV production.He tried to sell me a Blazer & was signing autographs too...no waiting.

[wheelhop]

Wasn't sure if it was Hodgkins or Countryside. I remember going to Celozzi Ettelson Chevrolet In Elmhurst "where you always save more money" in the summer of 79 with my friend Mike and his Dad. His Dad bought him a brand new 79 Z28 for his High School graduation present. He still has the car.

[dtb305]

C/E closed down around 2000. It was Elmhurst Chevy for a few more years until they moved down the street to become Villa Park Chevrolet, now Castle Chevrolet. The building was vacant for a little bit after that until it was bought by the Elmhurst Hospital and demolished.

[RayFencl]

Maury Ettleson sold his interest to Nick Celozzi and the new Business Manager the Nick brought in cleaned him out of $7,000,000 and that's how Nick lost the place. It's a shame because Nick ran the cleanest and best sales force in the USA.

[RayFencl]

Maury Ettleson's son, Mike, owns the Cadillac dealership.

[Steven J]

Hey Fencl, I work with George Fencl, his father is Dick Fencl's cousin. I suppose you are related ? Also, I saw Nick Celozzi at DuPage Chrysler Jeep in Wheaton when I was in there a few weeks ago. Not sure what his position is with the dealership.

[Steve Shauger]

I own a car from Dick Fencl Chevy in Oak Park, Il. My question is was Fencl-Tufo Chevy in Glendale Heights and the Oak Park location open at the same time. Also when did the Oak Park location close. My car was delivered 4/29/69.

[tabooo]

Was there a Fencl-Tufo in Oak Park Il?

[hvychev]

Steve, I think I mentioned in our e-mail correspondence that the dealerships merged. I think I wrote somewhere in one of these old threads about Mr. Ed that Dick Fencl Chevrolet in Oak Park stayed open until 1970 I believe.

[c6duffman]

Hi All,

What's the likelihood of finding any documentation for a 71 Corvette purchased from Fencl-Tufo? I just got my shipping data report from the NCRS which indicates it was delivered to Fencl-Tufo. VIN #194371S115818. TIA.

[RayFencl]

Ray Fencl, my namesake and Uncle, was my Dads (Dick Fencl) brother and a partner in Fencl-Tufo Chevrolet.

[Postsedan]

Welcome aboard Ray, tell us more. You must have some great stories to share. Glad to have you aboard.

Dan

[c6duffman]

My 71 Corvette had this sticker on the storage lid.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Whizzer/71%20Carpet%20and%20Windshield%202013/DSC_2594_zps585e5c13.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Whizzer/media/71%20Carpet%20and%20Windshield%202013/DSC_2594_zps585e5c13.jpg.html)

Then I photoshopped it and made a new one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Whizzer/71%20Carpet%20and%20Windshield%202013/TowSticker_zps44fbde0b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Whizzer/media/71%20Carpet%20and%20Windshield%202013/TowSticker_zps44fbde0b.jpg.html)

[Bob_D]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Compliments of Taboo.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/StefanoBimbi/Brigance%20Mr%20Ed/scan00221.jpg</div></div>
I just wanted to add that I recall a Chevrolet Dealer (still named Brigance, I think) located on Division St. near Austin. As a high school student I changed CTA busses on my way home near there. I walked into the dealership and met Mr. Ed for the first time. This would have been Fall of 1967 or Spring of 1968. I'll never forget my encounter with Mr. Ed. I inquired about engines available in the then new 1968 Chevy II. He spec'd out a factory order 1968 Nova with a L79 327/350 and 4 Spd. and I recall a selling price of $2,400. He just encouraged me to bring my parent in to order the car. Unfortunately, I never ordered the car. But I'll never forget how he treated this skinny 17 year old with all the respect that he'd have paid to an &quot;adult&quot;. I never purchased a car from him but sure wish I would have.

[Charley Lillard]

That is a nice story to hear Bob. Welcome to the site.

[tabooo]

Yes Mr.Ed was a great sales friend for me back in 1969, my first car was a 1969 Nova 396/375 4speed,the second car was a black COPO turbo 400.

[Mr70]

Mr.Ed @ Nov.2003 Vettefest.

[Mr70]

Ed &amp; Judy today.

[1967Z28]

A friend has a '67 Z-28 project car, Norwood built 05A, gold (non-RS) with gold standard interior with no console-gauges. Very basic Z. NCRS Muscle Docs show the car was sold new at Brigance Chevrolet in Oak Park. Can anybody help with original owner info?

[krcss1999]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/04/full-19937-42326-fencl_tufo.jpg
here's some memories - my dad worked at all 3 chevy dealers, i was a porter at fencl tufo from 78-81 - great fun!

[PeteLeathersac]

Very C<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gifL and welcome aboard Ken!
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~ Pete

[z28s4mjg]

A friend has a '67 Z-28 project car, Norwood built 05A, gold (non-RS) with gold standard interior with no console-gauges. Very basic Z. NCRS Muscle Docs show the car was sold new at Brigance Chevrolet in Oak Park. Can anybody help with original owner info?
Actually the car has 760-z black standard interior.

[Stefano]

I would start by contacting Ed. Also, Ed's wife Judy passed more than a year ago.

Since it has never been brought up prior. Mr Ed. was on a special committee to help evaluate the 5th Gen Camaro COPO Program.

[Mr70]

I was so saddened to hear that back in the fall of 2014.
I had just talked to her &amp; Ed in July of that year,and didn't know that would be the last time I see her.
She was always the diamond in the room and made everyone feel welcome.The memories I have of her will stay with me forever.
She was also related to Ted Williams,who's autograph she got for me back in the 80's.
It was through her how I met Ed.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/chicagotribune/obituary.aspx?pid=173313712

[olredalert]

----What an elegant lady she was. Judith could light up a room. Always looked good. RIP, Judith.......Bill S

[302moz]

My black 69 Camaro copo came from Brigance it is the next body number after Taboos.Anyone know how to get Mr.Eds contact info?thanks John

[Mr70]

PM sent.

[GPM6367]

Great thread...I just got the shipping data report from NCRS on my 1968 L71 and it was sold at Dick Fencl in Oak Park.

I noticed Ray Fencl has posted...has anyone inquired as to whether any paperwork exists?

Any salesman still around? Some retain dealership memorabilia.

I was told Mr. Piemonte broke off and is still working in area?

Trying to locate anything relating to my car or the dealership in general...

[Mr70]

Mr.Ed Schoenthaler just passed away on April 1st.

[GPM6367]

Mr.Ed Schoenthaler just passed away on April 1st.

Was he a salesman?

The post on this thread about the "Monster Deals" commercials prompted me to check Utube... hilarious...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fencl+commercial

[Mr70]

No,he started @ Brigance then moved onto Fencl-Tufo Chevrolet In Glendale Heights Il.He was THE Hi-po salesmen @ those places.
My reply was more general in case your future research brings up his name,as well as to answer an older reply from 302moz.

[Michael Hanson]

I bought a new 68 Z28 from Fencl-Tufo. I worked there until about fall of 1969.

[PeteLeathersac]

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Sorry to hear Ed's gone, Judy too.
Here's some old Chicago Dealer ads also a few cool private ones too.
:beers:
~ Pete

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~ Pete

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~ Pete

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~ Pete

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~ Pete

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~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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Was the Brigance delivered '68 L89 mentioned earlier in the thread a ragtop?
:hmmm:
~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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:beers:
~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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:beers:
~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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Note the stripped HO Yenko @ Sal's Auto below, maybe a Douglass sold Canonsburg built car?
Would the above ad timeline be Yenko shipped cars or Douglass ordered 9561's Yenko'd on site?
What of A-Body cars, did Douglass order any Copo Chevelles direct and add Yenko stripes etc?:hmmm:
:beers:
~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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June of '70, Mr. Ed is still @ Brigance.
:beers:
~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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July of '70 and Mr. Ed's @ Fencl-Tufo.
:beers:
~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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So many cool ads!
:beers:
~ Pete

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Rarest Dealer swag of all time, Fencl-Tufo giveaway Wigs!
:laugh:
~ Pete

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[fsc66]

In 1961 the dealership was still known as Fencl-Bogan Chevrolet. Based on all the ads I am seeing it was not until late 1962 that Dick bought out Bogan and changed the Dealership name to Dick Fencl Chevrolet at the same address.

1st ad late 1961:
2nd ad late 1962:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/546x603/80-image_4796edbd4e7712f3ae353b9cdab20a30888d5572.jpe g


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/546x549/80-image_34907e47b9bae07e9387886a641887fe94ad6a31.jpe g

[GPM6367]

I bought a new 68 Z28 from Fencl-Tufo. I worked there until about fall of 1969.

That's amazing...so you worked there in the summer of 68? Any chance you remember a 427/435 1968 Corvette Convertible, probably delivered in late June? British racing green, black interior, black vinyl hardtop and white soft top, 4 spd, 4:11, red lines, F41, N11 and, oddly enough, power widows?

I know it's a long shot...anyone else around that you think might remember the car? Looking for ownership history prior to 1996 when its sold by Holt Motors, a collector car dealership in MI. At that time a tired hot rod with flared fenders, lexan headlights, Crager SSTs, etc...

[Michael Hanson]

That's amazing...so you worked there in the summer of 68? Any chance you remember a 427/435 1968 Corvette Convertible, probably delivered in late June? British racing green, black interior, black vinyl hardtop and white soft top, 4 spd, 4:11, red lines, F41, N11 and, oddly enough, power widows?

I know it's a long shot...anyone else around that you think might remember the car? Looking for ownership history prior to 1996 when its sold by Holt Motors, a collector car dealership in MI. At that time a tired hot rod with flared fenders, lexan headlights, Crager SSTs, etc...

Sorry, I don't remember your car. There were so many Corvettes and Camaro's at Fencl-Tufo.

[GPM6367]

Sorry, I don't remember your car. There were so many Corvettes and Camaro's at Fencl-Tufo.

What year did it become Fencl-Tufo?

I thought in 68 it was just Fencl?

And what was location in 68?

[fsc66]

Based on Ads, does first show in 1968. See below 69 ad for address info:

http://i63.tinypic.com/wgtgco.jpg

Paul

[69sidepipe]

My deuce was sold new at fencl-tufo I’m looking for any dealership memorabilia .

[hvychev]

Orange one?

[69sidepipe]

Red

[Schonyenko2]

I only see one red deuce going to F/T on the list, although the list isn't complete. Were there more? If not, that deuce was in my area until recently. Sold new by Mr. Ed.

[CTChevelle]

I've had this for awhile. I'm thinking late 60's early 70s.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Here's the HO one....

[Jonesy]

That lighter is a great piece!

[caj]

Ed &amp; Judy today.

A very nice couple....very classy. I knew Ed through out the years when he owned Crossroads Chev in West Chicago. I met Judy when he invited my wife and myself to see his cars in a storage area in I believe it was Elk Grove. What a line up of cars. He had the building set up very nicely and I believe his memorabilia was worth as much as his cars. Beautiful couple....I wish they were still around.

[olredalert]

----Ed and Judy,,,Two of the nicest, classiest people I've ever known. Bought several cars from him and was always treated really well, and after I ended up in Michigan I used to see him every year at the Concours. One thing I regret was never taking him up on visiting them in Florida. Ed left us far too soon. RIP Mister Ed....Bill S

[caj]

----Ed and Judy,,,Two of the nicest, classiest people I've ever known. Bought several cars from him and was always treated really well, and after I ended up in Michigan I used to see him every year at the Concours. One thing I regret was never taking him up on visiting them in Florida. Ed left us far too soon. RIP Mister Ed....Bill S

Nicest couple I ever met. He had mentioned to me some of the cars that he had in Florida. Makes the cars that he had in the Chicago area seem small in comparison. In Elk Grove, he had a fantastic Lionel train set upstairs from his car collection. Judy also had a room set up for her collections too. Great people!!!!!
Ed was very honest. You could trust and believe every word he said. Because of my trust in him and how he was, I trusted other sellers and bought some very nice cars online sight unseen and never got burnt. That was until I bought a car from a total jerk in Canada....which taught me an expensive lesson. I wish all car guys were as honest as Ed.

[Mr70]

Hi Craig.

[caj]

Hi Craig.

Hey buddy....hope you're doing well.

[Chazman]

Hey, that's me in the yellow shirt and my little guy, (little at the time) in the red shirt. This pic has to be around 2006-ish or so. Ed invited a few members from my Camaro Club to come see his cars and model trains. He was such a nice and gracious guy. I'm almost positive this was in Downers Grove. Sad to hear he 's left us.


https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=142257&stc=1&d=1562418850

[Stefano]

Yes, that was his Museum in Downers Grove. I believe he invited the Illinois Camaro Club.

The former Weather-Tech headquarters were right across the Street.

[caj]

Hey, that's me in the yellow shirt and my little guy, (little at the time) in the red shirt. This pic has to be around 2006-ish or so. Ed invited a few members from my Camaro Club to come see his cars and model trains. He was such a nice and gracious guy. I'm almost positive this was in Downers Grove. Sad to hear he 's left us.


https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=142257&stc=1&d=1562418850


Wow...it's a small world. Yes, Ed invited my wife and I to see his cars. He said that a Camaro club was going to be there. There were quite a few people there. I found a couple more pictures of you and your son...but not as good as the previous. Looking at the properties of the pics I believe these were taken in 2009.

[bigjake]

Our '62 Impala 409, with the Brigance sticker!

[Chazman]

Wow...it's a small world. Yes, Ed invited my wife and I to see his cars. He said that a Camaro club was going to be there. There were quite a few people there. I found a couple more pictures of you and your son...but not as good as the previous. Looking at the properties of the pics I believe these were taken in 2009.

It sure is a small world, especially in the car hobby. Thanks for the added pics!

[caj]

It sure is a small world, especially in the car hobby. Thanks for the added pics!

Sure is. Have a GREAT weekend!!!

[jbtech]

Thought you all would enjoy this pin I picked up.

[302moz]

The Black x11D80 4 speed Copo Camaro I own was sold new at Brigance . The body number is one next to the other black Copo Brigance sold . Taboos car .