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Charles
07-12-2003, 01:27 AM
There is lots of talk here about the steel cars; any comments about the 1967 COPO Corvettes? Any list of colors and options available? Best known is the silver on red 350 HP soft top delete car. Also a silver on red 427 coupe. A black? on GREEN convertible. Can anyone add to this list? Thanks.

MosportGreen66
07-12-2003, 10:27 AM
There have been a few dealer cars such as a sunfire yellow '67 convertible with a dark blue interior at some shows. This car was at the NCRS show in Florida last year. It was a s/b 327, p/b, p/w, p/s, heater-radio delete car. ODD indeed! Also in 1966 there were 4 Corvettes sprayed in Trophy Blue with a BIRGHT BLUE interior. This combo was NOT offered by Chevrolet. The man who restored my Corvette has 2 of the 4. The cars were not delete cars they were normal optioned Corvettes with different interiors. They were sold in all of the engine options:

Coupe: 427/450
Coupe: 427/425
Convertible: 427/390
Convertible: 327/350

You can see picture of his 450 car @ http://www.vetteworks.com/prod03.htm

-Dan

Charles
07-12-2003, 01:03 PM
Hello Dan: Thank you for all the information and the link. Great shots of the "work in progress" and the great looking results! It must be a challenge to lower the standards to what the "General" did on the production line. The Mosport Green reminds me of a 1967 Corvette offered a couple of years ago. I seem to remember Terry had a factory Mosport Green Corvette for sale. Another one of the 10 built? Thanks, Charles

MosportGreen66
07-12-2003, 08:50 PM
This morning when I wrote the reply to your thread I knew I had remembered a COPO 67 silver/red combo that was for sale. In the NCRS "Restorer" magazine about a year + ago, there was one of the 10 COPO cars for sale. They are rare delete cars (no options) for that sell for HUGE amounts of money. This one was going for $120,000 frame off restored but NO documents except COPO sheets. Just like a COPO Camaro, it all depends on how much money you want to spend. I am driving down to Hershey for the NCRS National show tomorrow morning so I will have tons of Racer, and rare Corvette pictures. I am looking to add another plaque to the Duntov Award. Talk soon.

-Dan

MosportGreen66
07-12-2003, 08:59 PM
I forgot to add. If your asking this; Mosport Green was the second rarest color next to Black. A Tuxedo Black 1966 Corvette was acutally harder to get then a Mosport Green 1966 Corvette.

69RSZ
07-13-2003, 01:40 AM
hi mosportgreen66,you seem to be up on the vettes and i have a question on a 68 tripower 435hp car,it is a matching number car and this person is asking 35k for it.on a scale of 1 to 10 1 being the best i would rate it at a #4 being it isnt a trailer car but a driver and has all the original drivetrain and engine components.is 35k a fair price for a 68 tripower car? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Ron C
69RSZ
02 35th perf edition #11
71 SS LS5 chevelle

Charles
07-13-2003, 02:43 AM
Hello Dan: The Mosport Green Corvette I mentioned was a 1967 model that was not officially available in that color. The other COPO car was a 1967 Corvette- Black with a Green interior. An oddball combination to be sure.
Charles

Charles
07-13-2003, 03:28 AM
Hello Ron C: If I can add my 2 cents; the 1969 model year is a better choice for this model. There are quality issues with the 1968 and there were some design improvements for 1969. Plus because they made so many more 1969's there is a greater choice today. Is it a coupe? Color also plays a role in the price. There was a 1 owner green 1968 convertible 435 HP with low miles that didn't make over $25,000 on ebay some time ago. If you look in Hemmings you will get a fair idea of the prices... Personally I would hold out for a 1969 Corvette. The kind of money you mention would get you a nice one.
Charles

69RSZ
07-13-2003, 11:39 AM
hi charles,yea it is a coupe and is silver with the original blue interior.it is all there and never hot rodded,adult owned since new.it is very clean throughout.i thought the price was high being the market is flat for all cars now and i have been watching ebay every day and see the same cars getting relisted all the time.thanks for your reply. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Ron C
69RSZ
02 35th perf edition #11
71 SS LS5 chevelle

Charley Lillard
07-13-2003, 01:25 PM
Mosport... You don't have my old Black 66 427 450 hp Coupe do you ?

Charles
07-13-2003, 02:37 PM
Hello Ron C: The 1968 had some running production changes through the model year. Different door pulls for the interior a couple of other small items. Coupes were very scarce at the start of the year, I am guessing that the silver car you mention was built later on? Silver on blue is not one of the more common color combinations. Any documents for the car like bill of sale, tank sticker? Also it is no fun and messy setting the valve clearance hot on the solid lifter cars... Regards

ChrisS
07-13-2003, 03:56 PM
There was a '67 silver/red L-89 coupe at the Cypress Garden Regional about 8 or 9 years ago. As I recall it scored very well in flight judging.

Charles
07-13-2003, 04:22 PM
Hello Chris: Thanks for the information about the L89. I wonder if anyone ever got the Black with a White interior L89 coupe that Car and Driver tested in 1967? Someone found a red L89 convertible missing the engine; they traced it with the S/N. The seller didn't know what he had! Regards

69RSZ
07-14-2003, 01:36 AM
yes charles he has the tank sheet and protectoplate,im guessing it is a 3 owner car with the first two within the same family i think he said.it is a nice car but 35k i think is a little high for a driver. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Ron C
69RSZ
02 35th perf edition #11
71 SS LS5 chevelle

TimG
07-14-2003, 06:06 PM
I'm real familiar with the silver/red COPO export Corvette that is owned by someone in Sheboygan, WI. It is a 390 horse automatic with air and redline tires. It is stunning.
It was ordered by the President of some country and stayed with him for a few years. Well documented with pictures and paperwork. The trim tag on that car has no interior code if I remember correctly. They could not have silver with red on a trim tag so the interior is not coded.
I am very familiar with that red 67 L89 car, I owned it from from 1984 until 1992. I brought it to Sacramento with me when I was transferred there and sent is back to a friend in 1992. I had a correct replacement L71 in it. It was red with red interior. I drove that car over 20,000 miles and ran the snot out of it. I thought it was an L71 during the years that I owned it.

Charles
07-14-2003, 08:03 PM
Hello Tim: Many thanks for sharing the information about the silver/red EXPORT Corvette. It sounds like a "Special Collection" candidate. Was it a coupe or convertible? There are some amazing cars out there that could change perceptions about what was really built back then! At least you got to enjoy the red '67 convertible... just think of the repair bill for those soft aluminum heads which were prone to warping. Regards,

TimG
07-14-2003, 08:37 PM
The silver/red car is a roadster with a silver hardtop.
When I bought the red/red 67 Corvette it had an aluminum head L78 in it, I wore out that motor and put the aluminum heads on an LS6 454 and had many fun miles of driving until I dropped a valve. By that time I had collected correctly dated heads and block along with the L71 intake and put together a correct looking L71 engine. That is when I sold it to a friend. He is the one that apparently was searched out and offered money for the car. We were at Bloomington in 1993 and heard that our old car was an L89. A red/red roadster to boot.

MosportGreen66
07-18-2003, 11:47 PM
Charlie -- I do not have a black car I have a Mosport Green Corvette.

$35,000 is REALLY steep for a driver car. I would really like to see that car for about 20,000-25,000. Considering a 1968 Tri-Power convertible, M-21, tele-wheel, side-pipes, in Fathom Green on black -- that received top honors @ NCRS and Bloomington shows just went for $55,000 at NCRS Hershey National this past week. I know your wondering where the connection is but no one can restore a Corvette from start to finish for $15,000. (from driver to show car condition)

-Dan

I was at the Corvette thats why the reply took so long. Yes, Corvettes are my main hobby.

MosportGreen66
07-18-2003, 11:52 PM
I forgot to add something. At the NCRS show I met a man who owns a 1967 Corvette convertible with a C36 (I think thats the code) rag-top delete option. I do not know anything more then that but he is sending me some pictures and information on the car.

-Dan

ChrisS
07-19-2003, 03:05 AM
Dan,
Are you referring to a hardtop-only option or no hardtop AND no folding top?

bbdon
07-19-2003, 04:08 AM
Unfortunately, I don't think that you can figure the sale price of a car by knowing the restored value and then subtracting the retoration cost. If that was true, the seller would have have had to pay me to take the last car I bought.

MosportGreen66
07-19-2003, 12:51 PM
I was referring to a Hard Top only convertible.

I am not trying to make a mathematical equation to try to price a car. I just comparing prices to a show car - driver car. I thought what I said made sense. Maybe not?

-Dan

ChrisS
07-20-2003, 03:29 AM
Regarding the hard-top only subject, I believe that a buyer had a choice of either a hard-top or a soft-top included in the base price (see M.F. Dobbins book page 334) of a convertible. I'm not sure whether this would be an option delete. Option code C07 gave the buyer a hard-top as well as the soft. Noland's book indicates that there were 895 '67s produced with a hard-top only, C07 with an ECL of BA. Far more than I would have thought would have been made that way.

MosportGreen66
07-20-2003, 11:35 AM
I said I did not know anything about the car. And the option code was C07 your right.

TimG
07-23-2003, 01:50 PM
Heard there were lots of good cars there. A 65 fuelie that a friend owns went top flight, this blue/black coupe came to Texas by way of Northern California (Charley).
Also heard that John Lejsal from Houston had his car on a transporter and another car leaked brake fluid all over the original paint job of his 72 big block. It apparently went from the front to back of the car. Ouch......

MosportGreen66
07-23-2003, 06:21 PM
That car was a mess! It was the original paint on the car too. I was really surprised that the carrying company did not have some sort of basin to stop a leak of some sort. The Fulie car was nice!

-Dan

TimG
07-23-2003, 06:57 PM
Where does liability fall when this happens? My cars have been on the bottom of a transporter many times. Is it the responsibility of the owner of the leaking car or the responsibility of the carrier? I don't know, but if it were my car I would want a paint job.

MosportGreen66
07-23-2003, 09:17 PM
It is not the falt of the dripping car's owner because how wold he know his car is going to leak? Obviously the falt can't be directed to the owner of the ruined car. I would blame the carrier. If they don't pay for paint then I smell a law suit. This sort of thing could be covered under the 1.5 million dollars of insurance those big carriers have. My view.

-Dan

Belair62
07-24-2003, 07:05 PM
Better carriers cover the cars and have drip trays

Zedder
07-25-2003, 05:34 PM
Carriers have coverage for this and are liable. My '67 project Z arrived from NV with oil stains all over the hood and cowl. Even though it was just old sun-faded paint and primer that had to come off anyway, they gave me $500 for my touble /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

TimG
07-25-2003, 08:22 PM
Saw two great 67 Z's race at Road America last weekend.
The 302's were pulling 8400 RPM with 4:11 gears on the front straight.
Ed Jensen and Jim Bradley were the owners, nice guys and beautiful cars. Jim lost his motor on Saturday and was out of Sundays race.

Denis
07-26-2003, 01:36 AM
Here in Seattle, at the Vintage Races held over July 4 weekend, they had a Vintage TransAm class with 22 cars registered, 5 of which were 67 Z28's!! Some nice 68's too including the Penske car and Smokey Yunick's car.

Zedder
07-26-2003, 05:35 AM
Got to love those high windin' 302's /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif I hope to get out to the West coast some time to take in the vintage races. I'm stunned that these cars run given the value of them today!!!

Denis
07-26-2003, 07:09 AM
It was soooo cool! The race I watched had a 67 Z28, a 69 Boss 302, and a 70 Challenger jockeying for the lead position, with one of the three taking the lead on every lap. The crowd was going nuts, Hollywood couldn't have staged a better race. Naturally, the 67 Z won in the end. To my surprise, the owner lives not 10 miles from my house.

Charley Lillard
07-26-2003, 01:44 PM
Denis... If it was the Group I'm thinking of , the Race and Lead changes were staged. Not real Racing, just putting on a Show. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Zedder
07-26-2003, 07:10 PM
C'mon Charlie, next you're gonna tell us that Santa isn't real either /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif