Cool Judge photo

[427TJ]

From "back in the day." Love the skinny slicks.

[Steve_Hoog]

Awesome pic!!! Is that you? And what's the E/T?

[427TJ]

I wish that was me! No, I was just six years old when this photo was taken. No mention of the car's ET. I love that narrow-slicks look of the late '60s.

[JLP]

Stock classes were limited to a 7" slick. There is still a limit today on the width of slicks in the "stock" class. I have some others and will try to find and post as time permits.

[Steve_Hoog]

My favorite car and a launch too, must have made a lasting impression.

[427TJ]

Yeah, I bought two new 15x6 Cragar S/S's in December and I've been going back and forth as to whether to run 6's in back or 7's. I'll probably go with 6's and run smaller 70-series redline radials in front and larger 70's in back.

Hey, if the '50s guys can bring back the nostalgia hot rod look with big-n-little whitewalls/steelies then I think we musclecar guys could bring back a "nostalgia street machine" look. Besides, think of how fun it would be to have a street car with a healthy BB and 70-series tires out back?


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[427TJ]

Steve, this one's for you.

[442w30]

What's the deal with Rocky's Goat? I grew up in DE, so any race cars from there interest me. I always thought it was cool that Union Park had a few of the SD cars.

[Steve_Hoog]

I could spend the rest of my life looking a pics like that, keep em coming.....

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[427TJ]

No idea what the story is behind "Rocky's Goat." I just scanned the image out of an old magazine because it is a COOL pic. No doubt there were THOUSANDS of guys (and gals?) who ran such cars competitively back in those days.

[427TJ]

Last cool pic for now!

I can almost see Warren Oates walking up and getting in. (See movie: "Two-Lane Blacktop.")

[yellowjudge]

I've seen that one before. It looks vintage. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif I assume someone painted the front spoiler orbitorange. It's a non Judge, maybe it's one of "Two Lane blacktop" cars? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[427TJ]

I scanned that photo out of a 1970 magazine and it was a road test article so the car was new.

[yellowjudge]

HI, I did go through my mag. collection, saw the same. I assume, they painted the lower spoiler to match car. Pretty rare to see non judge GTO. I do know of a raiv GTO. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[GTO_DON]

eric i believe that car is a judge! [black grills,black hood scoops] just dosn't have judge decals..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif CALL ME!!

[Steve_Hoog]

Bill

That first pic you posted, was that out of a magazine? If so can you reference it please?

Steve

And thanks again, very cool pics.

[442w30]

I agree with Don. But I know of at least one Orbit Orange standard GTO.

[427TJ]

Both the "Jolly Olly Orange" '69 Judge photo and the '70 RA-IV color photo came from the July 1970 Cars Magazine. By the way, the '70 GTO was called "a 400 Ram Air GTO in Judge trim" in the article.

[GOAT72]

Here's a photo I found of Warren Oates sitting on top of the Orbit Orange GTO in "Two Lane Blacktop".

As many of you know, Oates played "Sgt. Hulka" in Bill Murray's movie, "Stripes".

~Goat72

[yellowjudge]

I know of raiv hardtop & convt 455, both orbit orange non judges. They're out there, not as many as judges for sure. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Steve_Hoog]

This ain't a Judge, but was probably a nice car.

[Steve_Hoog]

My great grandfather started our family dealership in 1938, just a few years later my dad is seen playing behind one of the old demos. Not sure if they called them demos back then, but sure enough what it was.

[Steve_Hoog]

Grand mama and dad 10 years later on the showroom floor.

[Steve_Hoog]

Another 10 years later and my dad's brother getting ready for the prom.

It's all about the cars.....

[Belair62]

There was just a RA IV non Judge on E-bay...supposedly real...Bermuda with Judge stripes.

[StealthBird]

Heap big bad Judge... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[yellowjudge]

The raiv GTO was sold early? It was ended. Car was for sale in another publication, it was rougher car w/o any orig. mtr parts. It looks like it got painted fast, as it was painted green before. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Belair62]

Was it real ? It showed doc's on the auction......

[Bandit]

It sold. The ad was very little detail. I emailed the seller with questions. None were answered, but he did email me.

[yellowjudge]

It was a real raiv gto, but all ra parts gone including complete drivline.Body was in need of alot. I believe, given it being a raiv, it was worth 15k. It seems like the Judges are hot, the gtos, even raiv have not caught on. I think the flash of the Judge is what catches the eye. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Steve_Hoog]

This just a random pic I found on the web, but a cool launch of a Judge.

[Belair62]

Must be a BB Chevy in that one !!! (JK)..now I have a question for you Judge fellows....in the 1970 GTO Assembly Manual they show a "Judge" sticker with a placement on TOP of the rear airfoil...next page showthe traditional lower decklid placement....what's up with that ?

[musclecarz]

In 1969 the decal was on the decklid and 70 and 71 it was on the top of the wing, The Bermuda blue car was sold early for 21,000 Too much for a car that was on e-bay 6 months ago (green) and sold for 9.500 . It was a real RAIV car and did come with stripes. Only thing is if you ordered the side stripes on a 70 (NON JUDGE) you got the 1969 stripe package, So the eyebrow stripes pictured were most likely not correct, The blue car definitly got a whiz bang trunk floor, Floor pan and Quarter surgery, But. It is one of the nicest optioned standard GTO's Ive seen in a long time, I think GTO Judges are one of the coolest cars ever built, Remember I said "one of". I don't mean "THE" nicest, I've had several of each year and gotta tell you that 69's are my favorite but for driving the 455 HO of the 71 was great!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[MotownMadman]

Well,
If you are such the Pontiac guy, why did you sell the Pontiacs and keep the Chevys and Mopars? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Hi Karl.....
Motown http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[musclecarz]

Hey Matt, Actually I bought a Orbit Orange 70 Judge Yesterday, And still have 3 70-71 T/A's, I just have the Camaros http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif to haul these cars to the shows!1 HaHAA!! (Just kidding Guys)

[MotownMadman]

Karl. I sure am glad that I am not the one that said that one a Chevrolet Camaro COPO Yenko Baldwin Nickey Dana Harrell Gibb Berger Supercar website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Motown http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[yellowjudge]

He is totaly correct, the GTO was sold before on ebay, needing quite alot. It did have good options. @ 21k, & needing about 35k min resto I guess these cars are really coming into their own. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Steve_Hoog]

Muslecarz... I think you got the decal location/year backwards.

[Steve_Hoog]

69

[Steve_Hoog]

70/71

[Steve_Hoog]

I'm getting spring fever!!!!!

[GOAT72]

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Muslecarz... I think you got the decal location/year backwards.

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I was going to check my GTO Resto book when steved posted this. I recalled the same thing: in '69 they put the decal on the airfoil, then in 70 & 71 it went on the deck lid right lower corner.

Trivia: How many 455's were put into the '69 Judges?
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~Goat72

Go Patriots!

[MrsBillyBobcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Trivia: How many 455's were put into the '69 Judges?
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None, they were not assembly line installed until 1970 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Rita http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[musclecarz]

Hi and yes I had the two mixed up on location. Thats embarassing when you have the cars, WOW? Thanks Carl

[Steve_Hoog]

This is a little more like, but I still hope to come up with some better ones. Probably 62 Cats and Bonnie's.

[Steve_Hoog]

The dealer my great grandfather W.A. Kuykendall making a deal, 55 Cheiftan I believe.

[Steve_Hoog]

I meant to say 57, possibly. Anyone know for sure?

[Belair62]

57...looks like a GP grill in the other

[firstgenaddict]

Here is a 70 Judge Conv with 55,000 Miles everything original execpt the paint and tires

[hvychev]

Neat old pics Steve! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Steve_Hoog]

I would have just DIED had I to take my lessons in this big ole bomb!!!!!

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[Steve_Hoog]

Back in the early 80's in Muskogee, we raced at this dead end road every Sunday evening during the summer. This is what we lived for. The town officals grew tired of it after a few years and covered the road with a hill of dirt to stop it.

[Steve_Hoog]

70 GTO finds it's demise in a yard in Muskogee, probably 83. This yard closed shortly after and most of the cars are still there untouched. I posted another pic from there a while back.

[Steve_Hoog]

My 69 thought I bought in 1979 for $500 after working for the money bagging groceries, still sits in my garage.

[MrsBillyBobcat]

Here is the '69 Bill bought in 1979 for $700 while machining and building motors (that was the job he had as a teenager). It's still in our garage today along with his first car, a 1970 GTO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Rita http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Steve_Hoog]

So far this is the only 70's photo I have come up with of cars from our dealership, one of our customers took this the day he bought it from us in 76.

Looks like there may be a nice Pony in the background.

[Steve_Hoog]

The was a billboard thread in another area. Here is one thing to do with a billboard sign, this was courtesy of GM although I don't think it's what they had in mind.

[Steve_Hoog]

This was the winter of 1981, Tulsa chapter of the GTO Association of America. Notice the white jacket on Larry Crider to the left. Monte Lee's black Judge was one sweet ride.

[supergonzo]

I have a few of them.

www.kingofmusclecars.com (http://www.kingofmusclecars.com)

[Steve_Hoog]

Here's a really nice Judge that sold on Ebay just a couple of weeks ago, by looks of the PHS included in the auction it must be a very loaded car.

Ebay Judge (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=7244&item=24832469 38)

[Charley Lillard]

That Ebay Judge looks like a deal but I get the feeling that the RA4 engine is not there. He just says it has a 400" Pontiac engine.

[Steve_Hoog]

The shot of the engine is not conclusive, but suspect for sure. Notice also the power brake booster and power steering not listed on the PHS, which would have to be if correct. The white console is a little silly too, but still a nice car.

[Steve_Hoog]

This is Merle Green's restored Tin Indian at the 2004 POCI in Joplin, very very nice car and even more interesting history that Merle is happy to share.

Excellent job on the car Merle!!!
http://www.empgmc.com/race/tinindianpoci04.jpg

[68l30]

Wow! Nice car... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif any more pics?



Steve

[Steve_Hoog]

I haven't developed my pics yet, I got this from some one else. I have two links to POCI pics if that's what your after.

1. Heartland TA Club (http://www.heartlandtransamclub.com/)

2. Joe's pics (http://www.gtopower.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=view&album=/GTO_Power/POCI_2004)

My favorite was a unrestored black 57 fuelie that pulled in late Saturday, had a mean sounding hole in one of the rusted tailpipes and a couple of pieces falling off. Bad to the bone, you will probably have to wait until I get mine developed on that one.

[68l30]

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Steve

[Steve_Hoog]

Nice looking wheel and gauges for a big car.

http://www.empgmc.com/race/70pontiacdash.jpg

[Belair62]

Where is the pic of the 57 Fuelie ?

[Steve_Hoog]

From POCI, still haven't developed the film? If your talking about my great grandma's, let me see if anyone has a picture of it still.

[Belair62]

Both....

[Steve_Hoog]

I couldn't get this to post in PM, here is a pic of Leake.
http://www.empgmc.com/race/leake.jpg

[Steve_Hoog]

How about this red interior?

http://www.empgmc.com/race/70gto.jpg

[Steve_Hoog]

What a knob!!!

http://www.empgmc.com/race/70hurst.jpg

[Steve_Hoog]

In dash take, sweet!!!
http://www.empgmc.com/race/70gp.jpg

[Steve_Hoog]

Couple of Oklahoma Junkyard pics for fun.

http://www.empgmc.com/race/69bluejunk.jpg

[Steve_Hoog]

67

http://www.empgmc.com/race/67bluejunk.jpg

[Steve_Hoog]

Oklahoma style street racing..

http://www.empgmc.com/race/streetracea.jpg

[Steve_Hoog]

http://www.empgmc.com/race/streetraceb.jpg

[DaJudge]

A IV and a III ready to go http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Steve_Hoog]

Another junkyard pic, 70 Judge Silver and supposedly a IV car. Mid 80's and this is NOT me making the cheesy car poses, I'm behind the camera. The scan looks a little funny, I had to lighten it up a lot to get the shadows off the lower half of the car.

http://www.empgmc.com/race/70judgesilvert.jpg
Bigger pic (http://www.empgmc.com/race/70judgesilver.jpg)

[Steve_Hoog]

I don't know anything about this one, just grab a pic at some local event.
http://www.empgmc.com/race/69ragt.jpg Big Pic (http://www.empgmc.com/race/69rag.jpg)

[JoeG]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gifphotos Steve---You still have Junkyards/candystores like that today??

[Steve_Hoog]

There is one junkyard that closed 20 years ago, I can still get in. He never crushed and doesn't let many in, many Chevelles and muscle cars. I posted some pics and told everyone about it last year, but no one seemed interested. I heard a rumor that he died recently but haven't verified it.

[Steve_Hoog]

Not a Judge but original 69 and running, was bought for $500 in 1987 and stripped because of the bad Qtr. Seems very stupid now.
http://www.empgmc.com/race/69greent.jpg

Big Pic (http://www.empgmc.com/race/69green.jpg)

[Steve_Hoog]

455
http://www.empgmc.com/race/motort.jpg
Bigger (http://www.empgmc.com/race/motor.jpg)