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JChlupsa
02-14-2004, 04:22 AM
Just wanted to touch base with all dealing with Street Racing. Did we do it when we were young, I would say most or at least a high % of us did our share of street racing. This morning here in paradise, the day stayed dark for a couple of familes. At about 3:30 AM a Road Crew that was out checking and laying cones for the ZIP Lane (a lane that is moved to allow an extra rush hour lane going into Honolulu) the flat bed truck that a driver and passenger were in got rearended at approx 100 MPH with that car getting impacted by a second car of which were both said to have been drag racing with each other prior to the accident. Within seconds of the 1st impact the car and truck burstinto flames. Truck driver crawled out his window and tried to get his passenger out but could not due to the heat and the flames. Passenger died. First cars driver and passenger died on impact and flames. A person in the 2nd car also died.

Cars were both imports and I know what some are thinking young kids, got news for you the drivers were not young kids they were in the mid 20's and one driver was part of the US Army here in Hawaii.

Folks all I can say is if you or any friends have young kids that drive and are into the road race game remind them that the drag strips usually have a street night and please take use of them.

Pic 1 truck with cars under the rear

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JChlupsa
02-14-2004, 04:23 AM
Fire crew surveying the accident notice the cars top peeled back from impact and the charred car and truck

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JChlupsa
02-14-2004, 04:26 AM
Traffic stopped and truck with both cars after impact and fire!!!

Life is way to short to let this happen to a friend or family member!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mr70
02-14-2004, 04:46 AM
Jeff
That is so Sad & Senseless.
On Friday April 13,1989 at 10:00 PM I was driving home from work on a two lane rural road,when a Drunk driver decided to Street race his buddy on the way home from a bar.The 33 year old man jumped into my North bound lane,as he was going South bound.I didn't even see him as I approached a Blind curve,with nothing but headlites in my eyes.We hit Head On at 55MPh.I in my IROC,he in his new Grand Prix.My car acted like a Ramp and made his car go airborn.I stayed concious through the whole thing,and will never forget that night as long as I live.The sight,sounds,and smells.
Once I was able to free myself from my Car,I hobbled over to see if he was OK.When I saw his head missing,I new he wasn't.I went in Shock soon afterwards.
The County Coroner visited me in my Hospital room that night,and told me I was one of the Luckiest people in the world that evening.Had it not been for my Seatbelt,and the Grace of God,I would have been airborn immediatley,and landed on the Pavement head first behind my T-Tops.
I have been an advocate against Street racing ever since.
Both hands on the wheel......
Rick

Schonyenko2
02-14-2004, 05:06 AM
I'm also living proof that seatbelts save lives. Schonye

55chevy
02-14-2004, 02:18 PM
I'm probably one of the few thats been through an accident where having a seatbelt on would have killed me, and not having it on saved my life.... But these days I feel naked in my vehicle if my seatbelt isn't buckled.

JTH74
02-14-2004, 02:46 PM
I am also living proof that seatbelts save lives, on Labor day weekend 1991, I was a senior in highschool, with everything going for me, great girlfriend that let me do whatever I wanted, captain of the football team, good grades, great parents, everything was right in my world. My best friend had gotten a new red twin turbo Dodge Stealth, we tried to straighten out a curvy road, he lived on this road so he new it well, we came out this curve at about 90 and the right front tire hit some gravel and sucked us off the road like vaccuum had a hold of the car, got back on the road, thought he had it back, then saw a huge dirt bank in front of us, he hit it head on then we rolled it three times, stopping upside down headed back in the other direction, creased the top and craved it in touching the inside corner of my head rest and pushing my head between the crushed top and the side glass, I was knocked out for a few seconds, my friend was yelling for me, when I did not respond he started freaking out, when I began to hear and see again, it was like someone was turning the volume up very slowly on the radio, and lights kept getting brighter gradually, we then tried to get out, I could get out to my chest and look over the bottom of the car and see people there watching us making a effort to get out, not one of those people offered to help, the car was still running, then my friend jumped up and said I am out, and I was right behind him, he immediately fell down, his back was broken,could not feel his legs(he is ok now). The weekend before we topped the car out, a little over 160 mph, that was the first time I had gotten tunnel vision( a weird feeling the first time it happens), my girlfriend was in the back, when it was over he got sick and threw up, and was really mad with me! Heres the weird part, in 1987 I went a stayed all night with a new friend, his parents had a restored 55 chevy hardtop, we took it to a drive in car show, on the way back a drunk driver pulled out in front of us and we hit him at 60 mph, the next day my mom told me she had a bad feeling about the whole day before, the evening that my best friend picked me up in the Stealth my mom called me back in the house and told me to be careful, that she had a bad feeling about tonight, the same feeling she had when we wrecked the 55, after we wrecked the Stealth and the emergency personnel arrived, which I knew most of them because my dad was a highway patrolman, you do not know how bad I hated for them to call my parents and tell them we had been in an accident! That night was when I realized how precious life is, how short it could be, and that you can pass from this life into eternity in the blink of an eye, that night changed my life! The next time my mom says she has a bad feeling I will listen to her! Sorry for being so long winded guys!

Norm reynolds
02-15-2004, 01:38 AM
That is real sad and just a waste of life the problem is there are to many movies like fast and furious and people think they can do like in the move Yes I think at one time or other we might have raced in the streets young and foolish Part of the problem was I would see kids that just got their license and the parents would give them a GTX or 427 chevelle and so on . The way I see it they were to young to handle all that power and to stupid to know better Jeff It is bad enough that the two drivers were playing games but I feel real sad for the passenger in the truck he had nothing to do with this what a waste

396L35
02-15-2004, 10:30 AM
The kids are not the only ones at fault here. You have street racing on the big screen, tv, and all kinds of car magazines that give these kids ideals. I know I used to street race when I was younger and thought that I was never going to get hurt and I have been very lucky that nothing ever happen to me, but I lost my brother that way and its not a cool thing to go through. I am glad that the local race track (Gateway International) holds a night race every month for kids to get it out of their systems under adult supervision. They start at midnight and run to 6 am. I think they need to do it at least once every week, and other tracks need to jump aboard to save our youth. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

Chevy454
02-16-2004, 06:57 PM
I'm in the same boat, Ed. If I had been wearing my seat belt I would I would have been decapitated. I'll give you guys the condensed version: young & dumb 17 year old boy...a black/black '64 Corvette, 327/365/4-speed, hard/soft top convert w/factory ac...hills & curves of the Ozarks...and about a 2 minute rain. The result was a barrell roll, a totalled 'Vette, and a dumb (but lucky) 17 year old in the hospital with road rash from head to toe, a head as big as a watermelon, crushed/fractured vertabrae, and nearly a 2 week stint in the hospital.

All because someone tried to run me...http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

shor
02-16-2004, 08:48 PM
Jeff, I just saw on the local news that NJ serviceman had died in Hawaii car accident?? I wonder if that was the one?

JChlupsa
02-16-2004, 11:35 PM
Sad but true both cars were being driven by US Army members. Yes the first pair of Army members in the first car were burnt beyound reconization as was the passenger in the truck. 2nd driver also Army died and the passenger is in critical at Tripler. The truck driver gout out through the drivers window and could only watch as the others yelled out for help. Another road crew who just talked with the truck occupants reported that 2 Eclipses had passed them at a very high rate of speed and then they heard a loud crash and apon their arrival to the crash site did what they could to help oput out the fireball that encapsulated the entire accident scene. These guys were in their Mid 20's.

matt murphy
02-17-2004, 09:49 AM
Jeff,

Mid 20's is Young. That is the group that is just getting their first cars. Some get them at 16 or 18, but others have to wait and save. The local street racer scene here is 20 year olds. I'll admit I have done some stupid things in cars, but thankfully, I was lucky enough to not get killed. I too blame the movies and TV for a lot of this stuff these kids see and want to try to do to impress the girls or their friends. I guess fortunately for me my Mom was a nurse and saw too many tragedies at the hospital and didn't want her sons or daughters to end up like the kids she worked with. I wasn't able to get a car until I was out of school. All my friends had cars except me, but my parents believed at a young age you don't need a car. I guess I was lucky because when I was 18, I got hit by a drunk driver on a Saturday afternoon, in my friends subdivision with 6 of my friends in my dads car. We all walked away from that accident, and the drunk ran away and left his mothers car there at the scene, totalled. He convienently reported it stolen later, but left his ID in the car and we also identified him. It is unfortunite that most of us need to experience the death or tragedy to stop doing something as dumb as street racing, or just messing around in cars.

Last May at the Atlanta F-body show, about 100 kids, most of them in their 20's and 30's saw a street race go horrible bad, when 4 kids were in a new Camaro and two others were in a Trans Am. The story was that the Camaro hit his Nitrous and right in front of the host hotel at about 1:30am and with about 80 onlookers watching the race, the Camaro lost control and crashed into the embankment and hit a telephone pole and crashed so violently that the car was ripped in half and the two in the back were thrown and partly decapitated and killed instantly in front of the crowd of cheerers and people egging other drivers to race in the street all night. The driver was thought to be dead and the only one wearing a seat belt was a girl in the front passenger seat, who didn't know any of the other kids in the car, she was just along for the ride to the Waffle House restaurant, when the two drivers decided to line up and race. Their intentions were to go eat and two died and a third who barely survived and a fourth that will forever be traumatized by the accident.

All very sad . . .

Jeff Murphy
02-17-2004, 04:21 PM
It's always confused me about the US (and Canada where I'm originally from) that you get a potentially lethal driver's license at such an immature age (for most) and then load on top of it learning how to drink, act like an adult, etc. Even though I enjoyed getting my license at 16 and writing off my first car at 17, I think that the Europeans have things figured out a bit better.

You can drink beer and wine in most countries when you are 16+ (although many start earlier with parents' consent), with driving, voting and military service kicking in at 18. You're a full adult at 18, still young but with a bit more experience behind you.

Plus if you can go off and fight a war you can have a drink... Never understood the 21 drinking age / 18 draft age thing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

skierkaj
02-17-2004, 05:14 PM
I've heard from a kid at my high school (he was over in Afghanistan; just 19 or 20 years old!), that if you wanna drink, it's no problem when you're in the army. People will just give one to you, no matter what age you are.

55chevy
02-17-2004, 06:31 PM
Man.. it's just horrible what can happen when kids become wreckless like that.... very sad indeed.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

77Z28
02-20-2004, 01:51 PM
I think back at my early driving experience and realize a lot of the stupid accidents or situations I got myself in were the result of falling to peer pressure. I can recall many of fridays after school egging other fellows to lay drag while leaving the school parking lot. One fellow classmate in his silver 76 TA agreed to, but probably wished later he hadn't when he lost control of car and ran it nearly into some trees.

I am sure we can all recall some classmate or friend that did something stupid with their car, possibly with horrible consequences. I for one have made plenty of stupid mistakes while operating car. It is a sobering experience when you are involved in an accident where not only you are at fault (wreckless driving) and hit an innocent, uninvolved, driver who is injured, recoveres, but eventually sues you and your family for multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars. And worse of all seeing the anxiety felt by your parents for fear of losing everything. Fortunately, my dad always made me and my brother pay for all expenses on our cars with our own money earned through jobs that our lawyer was able to get my parents off the legal suit.

You learn early that you are responsible for your actions and their are consequences. I hope to pass along to my sone when he begins driving that you can have fun with your car without being wreckless to others, potentially injuring others and not following what your buddies ask you to do.

Maybe more personal than necessary, but felt like sharing.

Todd

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Mr70
02-20-2004, 06:56 PM
I agree Todd.

njsteve
02-21-2004, 12:18 AM
[ QUOTE ]
"I'm in the same boat, Ed. If I had been wearing my seat belt I would I would have been decapitated. "

Not to preach as I have done very stupid things in my past as well, but the testimonials from very lucky people (I'll call then one percenters) who survived because they were not wearing seat belts are statisticly invalid. (Well, not to them but for others). My reasoning is this: The problem is you never hear any testimonials from the 99% of the other side who died as a result of not wearing that seat belt. Having been to variety of ugly scenes I can say it is an accurate quote that I hear from law enforcement people: "I've never had to unbuckle a dead guy". If I had the 99% chance of surviving by wearing the belt versus the 1% chance of surviving by not wearing it, I'd stick with the good odds.

MadMike
03-06-2004, 04:32 AM
Seatbelts (and airbags) saved me, my wife and our 3 boys. We were impacted almost head on, except I was dodging the guy and he drove over our hood and exploded 20 feet behind us. He wasn't street racing, but it still sucked. For about 2 or 3 seconds I watched death approaching. Fortunantly we all lived through it.

Belair62
03-06-2004, 04:38 AM
It's been a while since the last update Mike...glad all is going well at home.

hvychev
03-07-2004, 04:40 AM
Yeah Mike glad to see you back. Hope everybody is getting on with life. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

DarrenX33
03-07-2004, 05:35 AM
Very sad story. Like John Milner says, "Driving is a serious business". Also makes me think of the vintage Lions sticker on my car that says, "Drive the freeway, race the Lions". There's a reason why there are drag strips.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
03-09-2004, 02:32 AM
I don't know about other areas, but here in southeastern PA there are some general rules for street fun. Basically when the speed limit is reached, the race is over, or, if you have one car length on the other guy, the race is also over. It's basically a hole shot race, probably born out of the high number of redlights on most roads in Philadelphia - heck, we would run 5 cars wide on the boulevard. We never went very fast, but it was a lot of fun, and the police never bothered us. When the crowds got too big, a fire truck would come by and hose the street down, then we'd go elsewhere till the fire truck showed up there....