COPO? Hmmmm ... Now what?

[no69x-44]

It's begining to look like I have a '69 COPO Camaro. See http://www.camaros.net/forum/ultimatebb.php/topic/6/4910.html For details. My questions are, what do I need to register it, certify it, insure it, restore it. This is all pretty new to me, so any pointers would be much appreciated.

[Belair62]

Read the whole thread...looks like you've had some folks look at it to help you out too !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif There are some very knowledgeable folks here to help you out...please fill out your profile for us when you get a second and I'm sure they will start chiming in...I'm just a janitor around here so I am of no use ! ...

[hvychev]

Very cool.....looks like congrats are in order! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[camarojoe]

Awesome! Congrats on "discovering" a supercar right in your own garage! You came to the best site on the net for info and advice on these cars, use the "search" feature and surf through literally thousands of posts with useful info, and feel free to ask questions, I'm sure there are a ton of people here who are willing to help. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[DarrenX33]

Wow that is cool! Congrats! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Stefano]

Very Cool,
Congrats!
Question: Does your car have the correct rear spoiler spring rods to hold the Deck lid open with a spoiler on it?

Let us know if and when you find out if the internal components of the rear are original to the car and what the corresponding dates are.

[x44d80]

what do the original spoiler rods look like?

[bkhpah]

One rod is a larger diameter than the other on factory D80 cars...BKH http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Charley Lillard]

LOL...sure you can. Maybe you can issue him a Official "Bain" Certificate.

[camarojoe]

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[Schonyenko2]

Brian is correct about the rod size, but usually, if the spoiler is off, the trunk lid slams itself open when you turn the key, whereas a non D80 is way more gentle. S.

[Mark_C]

You couldn't have read the thread very carefully. The VIN and Cowl Tag info is in the third or 4th entry. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[ANDY M]

I think Belair should change the status of 676767 to "stranger and stranger". However, why is this guy allowed to keep posting without any profile info?
Do we really need to be amused by this person or person's? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Belair62]

Its always fun to see who he is going to be on any given day.

[JoeG]

Bob, Is that really you?----Say something Belair--

[Belair62]

Pretty sure I am already on record as to my thoughts on the matter Joe !!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[676767]

Yea Ok I went back and read the threads cited in the topic page and well yep it looks COPO congradulations my mistake.

Al http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[COPO_Anders]

676767, are you Al Gee, the Englishman ?

Anders

[Jeff H]

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Yea Ok I went back and read the threads cited in the topic page and well yep it looks COPO congradulations my mistake.

Al http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Did you get a chance to check Greg's VIN list to see if this car is on there?

[676767]

Actually my discussion with Greg was more about whats going on with Copoloco and his possible visit to see Greg's paper to attest to it's authenticity. I didn't get a chance to run the VIN by him, but if you want to you can, frankly you guys are the ones who doubts Greg and I don't know one way or another, I was kinda of waiting to hear what COPO loco said after his visit like a lot of people, but hey why not ask him yourself, (we don't need his number) Greg long D.P.E..

[676767]

Not Al Gee the Englishman, I am an American and own a possible COPO 427 and if it's a real one one the first ones made.

[Belair62]

You are the one who touted him like a savior and hung your COPO hat on Gregs info...you call him....you need the info....

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Let me see if I understand you correctly, you "didn't get a chance to run the VIN by him" ? Why? Shouldn't that be your first priority if this car you own is some sort of pre-Yenko prototype or something? You're not making sense.

[DarrenX33]

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You're not making sense

[/ QUOTE ]

Marlin- I believe that is his whole point. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

[Jeff H]

No, his statement is being misread. He did run his VIN by Greg, but he didn't run the VIN that this thread is talking about.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Ok, I see.
So, what did this Greg say about his vin? If he has all of this documentation, then why would anyone need to authenticate it?

[Steve Shauger]

Jeff, you can't possibly be giving any credibility to this list theory. Say it isn't so... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[Jeff H]

I really don't see how Tonawanda would know which engine was going into which specific car and pre-stamping the engines with the VIN so the assembly line workers at each plant would have to scramble around to match up the correct engine with the body it belonged to, but I'm trying to keep an open mind! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[676767]

Yea Jeff H has it right it was misread, anyway you guys can go to Rabbitstoys.com and go to copos amd read about what Tim says about the paper. I fowarded Tim's recommendation to greg at D.P.E. so I am just waitign to see if he will do that. If it really is Vicne Piggins paper work.

[676767]

Well you know Mr. belair, there really wasn't anyione or anywhere else to hang the hat on, you know. Ed C has been asked about teh car, enko.net has checked the car out, and they don't have anything, so if greg Long's paper is bogus then hey it's not a COPO unless I can dig up the first owner and find out what he did with the paper the car came with, so what am i suppose to do, I mean no one has proven it's not a COPO (we have been through this already, no need to go any further than this now)

[Mr70]

Bain
Spell Check & Reality Check....

[Allen]

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I mean no one has proven it's not a COPO (we have been through this already, no need to go any further than this now)

[/ QUOTE ]

The burden of proof is to prove that it is, not that it isn't. However, you're right..... that's another topic that has been worn out elsewhere.

[Belair62]

Well thats actually a pretty decent response 676767....but you can't "ask" Ed about the car...and I don't know how Yenko.net "checked it out"...but you have very little to go on so just play out the original owner angle until you find the guy and hope he has some paper for you....

[BARN FIND]

I went to "rabbit's toys" and surprise, they are fed up with this guy (calls himself armourman there) too! Where is this DPE at? I fly around alot so maybe I could drop in for a visit.

[Mr70]

Wait til ya click on Team Chevelle. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[resto4u]

Ray, he is at angola, In. Good luck! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Roger

[BARN FIND]

THANKS

[676767]

Actually BelairI didn't ask EdC becasue the last owner Wayne Siscoe Sarge in the Air force already asked him, the answer was nothing conclusive one way or another, so i didn't bother. The times I have asked EdC a question it tooks days for him to get back and the answer was always cryptic, and when specific follow up questions were asked there was never an answer, so there you go??

[676767]

If you really want to contact Greg in Angola call him . He's not hard to find

[Belair62]

I don't think you will get Ed or anyone else to verify a car if there is no COPO stuff left on it ....and quit advertising for this guy...

[hvychev]

Belair just get rid of this clown........I bet everybody is sick of his $hit by now!

[676767]

Mr. Heavy, I think if we are to learn one thing from the fiasco we had at Chevelle Tech forum is using derogitory language like clown and worse. please don't do that.

I guess I am confused about one thing here, if we can prove the VIN be on an authentic list does it have to have all or most of the original equipment to be deeemed a COPO?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[resto4u]

How come tim kicked your a$$ off there site over there? Don't answer, just go waste your own time. We like to learn things, and this is going nowhere. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Mr. Heavy, I think if we are to learn one thing from the fiasco we had at Chevelle Tech forum is using derogitory language like clown and worse. please don't do that.

I guess I am confused about one thing here, if we can prove the VIN be on an authentic list does it have to have all or most of the original equipment to be deeemed a COPO?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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You are right about one thing, you are indeed confused http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[gemleeus]

I guess its ok to create different log on names and continue your fiasco, and you were caught right off the bat doing it and then you wonder why these things are said about or to you. everyone has caught on to what you're doing, but i guess thats why you're doing it.

[DaJudge]

Personally I would not discuss a car before there was definitive documentation to back up what it was but for now check out the attached picture.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Good One!!

[676767]

THat is a good one, wow your so funny, maybe you could quit your day job and be a comedian, wouldn't that be swell. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif well have a nice day

[676767]

HI belair62, listen I would really like to become a member of your great web site, how can I do this?

[Mr70]

http://www.lards.net/images/homer.gif

[Pantera]

To be a member here: You might try filling out your profile complete with mailing address and working phone #.

You really are welcome on here. All we ask is that you respect others opinions and don't make claims about a car that you can't substantate.

This is really a pretty great bunch of guys.

Pantera

[Stefano]

Does anyone have the vin and trim tag info from this alleged factory 427 Camaro?

[Belair62]

It's not my website....Stefano he is talking about a Chevelle....not enough time or patience to explain...maybe someone can send you a PM with a link to the threads here and on Team Chevelle....

[676767]

Well if you say so Mr. Pantera, look at Mr. 70 above and a few posts back. R U Sure?

[Belair62]

Just fill out your profile...

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

676767;
I hope you have realized that by posting your 'quest' to document this thing on several sites, and by repeatedly referring to DPE, a person/company that nobody knows or respects, you have been successfull at only one thing: You have permanently attached doubt to your car, nobody will ever believe any paperwork or documentation that you may eventually produce for it.

Congratulations. Now go to Disney World.

[Rick H]

Are we having fun yet?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Rick H.

[supercomp 8.90]

man, there has to be something on better than this!!!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

[Kim_Howie]

B.S That's as good as it get's http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Bottom Line Period http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

[676767]

Well Mr. Duece I hope you reralize that anyone sellling a so called supercar for big dollars is ALWAYS going to be scrutinized. As far as Greg at D.P.E. is concerned I can't argue for or against nor do I understand your disdain for a guy you don't know. I see his and hear about his work and hear nothing but good things. So whatever

[DarrenX33]

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Well Mr. Duece I hope you reralize that anyone sellling a so called supercar for big dollars is ALWAYS going to be scrutinized.

[/ QUOTE ]

Never when there are documents to back up the claim! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif And not just talk of them. Real viewable documents. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif How long have you been in this hobby? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Charley Lillard]

676767 has wasted enough of our time and has chosen to ignore requests to fill out his profile so I have banned him. Let him go annoy people on another site.

[DarrenX33]

About time. Thanks Charley. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Thank you!

[gemleeus]

it won't take long to create another user name http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[hvychev]

Thanks Charley! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Jeff Murphy]

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it won't take long to create another user name http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Sure, but Big Brother has ways of identifying repeat offenders... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[Mr70]

We won't miss him...

http://www.itty-bitties.com/lgifs/banned.gif

[JoeG]

[ QUOTE ]
"I have banned him."

[/ QUOTE ]-This could give Donald Trump's Show,--"Your Fired" some competition http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Unfortunate, but the Bain genie had to be put back in the bottle---Hopefully for another 1000 years

[supercomp 8.90]

thank you charley!!!!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif