Musselum Motors ( Haney Garage )

[SMGCO]

Any other owners around of cars from Musselum Motors, Vancouver , B.C. ? ( Dealership previously went by name of Haney Garage )

[Mr70]

I have seen the Haney name on a few 1970 L-78 & LS-6 Chevelles.One in particular stands out among the rest.

[Buff]

Mussallem Motors is my local dealer. It is in Maple Ridge. Near Vancouver. It is still business.

[SMGCO]

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I have seen the Haney name on a few 1970 L-78 & LS-6 Chevelles.One in particular stands out among the rest.

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I don't know when the dealership name changed but some of the same people are still there today from the Haney Garage days.

[SMGCO]

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Mussallem Motors is my local dealer. It is in Maple Ridge. Near Vancouver. It is still business.

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Do you know Ken Winn the GM ?

[Buff]

I have talked to him, but have not bought anything off him.

[SMGCO]

Ken is a very good guy. He's been there since the 60'! He was there when my copo car came in. ( They had two copo camaros. A hugger orange car and my daytona yellow car ). He was kind enough to write me a letter on their letterhead about my car and the name of the salesman , etc. People like Ken are generally not around anymore.

[Randy K]

This dealer also sold a Lemans blue automatic COPO chevelle which now resides in Oak Harbour Washington.

[SMGCO]

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This dealer also sold a Lemans blue automatic COPO chevelle which now resides in Oak Harbour Washington.

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Randy,
I was not aware of any other copo cars they had sold besides my car and a hugger orange camaro. That's good information. What else do you know about any " super cars " they have been involved with and or are around still ?

[Randy K]

I was told be the owner that use to own your car that they only sold the 3 copo cars.I was also told that the dealer tried to order some more copos but could not any more. I know of 4 other copos that were sold new in British Columbia, 3 chevelles and 2 camaros which includes the camaro I own. Most of these cars have gone the US.

[SMGCO]

Randy, Again real good information.

Which prior owner are you refering to ? ( I have personally spoken to the original owner Jack Euwda ).

What's new up there in BC ?

Regards, Steve

[Randy K]

The owner I am referring to owned both of these copo camaro's at the same time. He sold the yellow car to collector in Alberta and restored the orange car.The orange car has since been sold to the US a few years ago.

[SMGCO]

Kenn Winn told me a picture of the hugger orange copo is still on the wall in their parts department. Talk about respect.

[COPO PETE]

Hey Randy
Welcome to the site. Glad you finally found it. Ever get your car done????
Peter

[Randy K]

Peter

The car was completely restored about 2 years ago. I am now replacing any repo and any incorrect parts with nos parts as I find them.

[WWMCMike]

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Kenn Winn told me a picture of the hugger orange copo is still on the wall in their parts department. Talk about respect.

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I am the current owner of this Hugger Orange COPO. Would be neat to get a copy of that picture!

Thanks,
Mike

[Buff]

Musselm Motors parts

[P.J.]

they were also Bobby ORR fans I see.Nice pics
suprss70

[Denis]

Stanley Cup winning goal, 69-70 season. Probably the most famous goal of all time. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[70CitrusZ]

My 70 Z-28 was sold new at Mussalem. I think they sold quite a few performance cars there.
When the weather gets nice I'm taking it on its inaugural (sp?) voyage to Mussalem.
Mark.

[Colesy]

Musselum Motors were the Sponsor of Buck Kinney's Super/Stock Camaros in the sixties. Here's a shot of the 68 with the 69 to follow. ...............Bill

[Colesy]

Here's Kinny's 69 Camaro. ..........Bill

[Mr70]

Great picture! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/203459-c724c.jpg

[Colesy]

Hey Guys; Here's a couple more of Buck Kinney's Musselum Motors sponsored Chevys. The first is a 66 Impala 427...Bill

[Colesy]

And the second is his 71 Chevelle. ........Bill

[Mr70]

Now that's Special!
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/203721-010a.jpg

[Buff]

I worked for the guy that bought the 66. When he got it, it was a 396. I got a ride in it and it was cool.

[ko-motion]

I actually work for Mr. Kinney part time, after school, weekends, etc. Here is a recent picture i took of the 71' Special.

[Canuck]

Article in local newspaper on Friday announcing that Musselum Motors was going out of business. They probably sold their property for a bucket of money and figured it was more than they would make selling cars over the next few years.

[SMGCO]

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Article in local newspaper on Friday announcing that Musselum Motors was going out of business. They probably sold their property for a bucket of money and figured it was more than they would make selling cars over the next few years.

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Thanks for the heads up. Yea, I just called up there to thank Ken Wind for all his information etc. and there was no answer. According to some of my documentation " Serving you since 1920 ". Sorry to see them go. Ken Wind had been there as sales manager for about forty years. Incredible and and incredible guy.

[JeffGuy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Randy K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This dealer also sold a Lemans blue automatic COPO chevelle which now resides in Oak Harbour Washington. </div></div>

Any of you guys from this post still active here ? This car mentioned above belonged to me at one time . I've been trying to track her down off and on for the last 20 years . I always wanted to know what became of it and was pleasantly surprised to see it in Washington , then noticed the dates of this thread lol . I did however do a VIN search lately and it is still reg'd in Washington state , as of March 2015 . Anyone here know who owns it now ? I bought this car ( in 1978 ) when I turned 17 and we had a lot of great times together , great memories and would be happy to see it again ( hopefully , nicely restored ) .

Thanks !!

[Randy K]

The car is owned by Steve Ellis in Oak Harbour Washington. It was restored about 15 years ago.

[JeffGuy]

Wow thats pretty cool , glad its still alive and well . Do you know if he ever came back and got the 427 ( its original motor ) for it ?

Here it is in 78 when I owned it
And another from 78

[Randy K]

When Steve bought the car as a project from the previous owner, the car come with a matching number engine.I don't know if its is the original engine from the car. The original owner told Steve he damaged the original engine in the first year he had the car.

[JeffGuy]

Yeah , the guy who bought it new from Musselum Garage had an incident with the 427 ( I believe it was an unrecoverable engine seizure ) . I'm glad he found it , last I heard that motor was still sitting in Mission BC , but this car had a LOT of rumors surrounding it , in its early years. Buck Kinney also owned it for 2 years , wonder if Steve knew that ?
When I bought it , it had a 396/350 HP in it , it was quite the engine , I never lost a single street race the entire time I owned it , and some clown previous to my ownership , put the SS396 emblem up front and a SS only one in the back. I guess trying to make it look flashy , I found it on a used car lot in the spring of 78 . It was only 9 years old when I bought it and it was mint , except for a little bad patch of chrome on the front bumper , which always irritated me ha . The last engine I had in the car was pretty healthy 427 , it ended prematurely as well , swallowed a valve due to a broken valve spring retainer . Wasn't pretty .
If you know Steve , I'd really love a couple of pictures of it the way it looks today , it would be greatly appreciated as the car really meant a lot to me , I just wish I'd known what it was back then lol . Sounds like its still having a great life . Appreciate the info , thanks man .

Jeff

[Randy K]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-2298-48246-copo1.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-2298-48247-copo_2.jpg

[SS427]

Here is the 70 LS6 taken a while ago that is well known that also came from Haney Garage. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-253-48248-tn_img_9361.jpg
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[JeffGuy]

[quote=Randy K]

Thanks for posting those Randy , from what I can see there , the old girl looks amazing . He's certainly done her proud !
I bet he was cursing me during that restoration for putting those hood pins in that BB hood lol . If you ever run into Steve tell him I'd love to trade some pictures with him . Here is one , was my first trip with it after I bought it .

[Randy K]

PM sent

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

My friend owns the orange one. I am thinking of buying it.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-19210-48625-orange_copo1.jpg

[7TL34]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My friend owns the orange one. I am thinking of buying it.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-19210-48625-orange_copo1.jpg
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Is that car back in Canada? I tried it out, &amp; came close to buying it when it was on Musseleum's used car lot in 1970 ($4800).

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

Yes - It's back.
Wow - That was a lot of money for a used car in 1970!

[Stefano]

$4,800.00 Canadian.....what was the exchange rate then ?

[SS427]

7.5%. If I did my match correctly that would mean $4400 US.

[Upper Levels]

ihere's some photos of my Z-28 which was purchased new from the Mussalem Garage, i found it in 1984, did a rotisserie rest on it in 1988, added options such as OEM tinted windows, rosewood wheel and 4:10s from my first Z, used JL-8 system with service package housing and 22 plate posi, GM crossram with '140 cam and real steel crossram hood (1 of 6 or so i'm told) partial exterior chrome trim and endura bumper.
i also added day two items such as MSD ignitionperiod tach and auto-meter gauges, headers, hi-perf clutch and lakewood bell housing, bistein shocks and quickor swaybar with radials give it modern handling. i have all the original pieces such as exhaust manifolds, in storage.

i also found a COPO that came from Dick Irwin chev-olds in North Vancouver, just finished the resto on that last year. it is a rally green, m22, 8 track, rear de fog car. i have added the options tinted windows,
rally wheels , 13'16 sway bar and radials on rally, endura bumper and rosewood wheel. its also day two modified with ceramic headers, MSD ignition, period tach &amp; auto-meter gauges, hi -perf. clutch and lakewood bell housing , i still have all the stock parts to return it to stock including the XT wheels

tried to get docs and photos posted on here but couldn't

[StriperSS]

Would love to see photos of those 2 cars. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Upper Levels]

trying to get photo bucket to work, bit of a learning curve, forgot to mention a couple of options added to the COPO, a chambered exhaust system i bought NOS over the counter from Dick Irwin before. i also installed a mint untouched set of aluminum &quot;842 heads dated early 69, the motor made 490hp on the dyno with the crane version of the stock 375hp cam.

i'm trying to upload photos but this site is not for photos, blog only i guess because its handicapped by very limited file size, maybe one photo at a time?

[StriperSS]

When did you buy the exhaust at Dick Irwins? I worked there in 76 to 79.

[Upper Levels]

i bought it in 1977 from ernie i think ,in parts dept. at Dick irwin, put it on my first Z with headers and the noisy &quot;140 off road cam and got 3 excessive noise tickets in 6 months so they got shelved and i put a transverse system back on it, then went to a set of real GM corvair turbos put on by Midas across the street, best sounding mufflers ever made imho

still can't upload photos from my mac apple type computer, this website looks unchanged from 1999 when i first came upon it, i will post them on my own company website as i can put unlimited numbers of photos on it, I will put the GM canada docs as well, probably tomorrow I also have a 428CJ Cougar Eliminator that sold new down the street from Irwins at Ritchie Lincoln Mercury, c/w Marti report and am currently restoring a 1967 GTX Hemi that has Grovier docs, it sold new in Seattle. my website is www.starlitecrane.com (http://www.starlitecrane.com)

[StriperSS]

I was driving this at that time. Bought it used at Dick Irwins.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/StriperSS/My%20Cars/GreenW311.jpg

[bigsixman]

1970 W-31?

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: copojimmy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">trying to get photo bucket to work, bit of a learning curve, forgot to mention a couple of options added to the COPO, a chambered exhaust system i bought NOS over the counter from Dick Irwin before. i also installed a mint untouched set of aluminum &quot;842 heads dated early 69, the motor made 490hp on the dyno with the crane version of the stock 375hp cam.

i'm trying to upload photos but this site is not for photos, blog only i guess because its handicapped by very limited file size, maybe one photo at a time? </div></div>

Hi Tim-Here you go-not sure what you wanted posted, but I pulled this from your website... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif :

Green COPO

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54298-six.jpg


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54299-five.jpg


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54300-four.jpg


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54301-three.jpg


When the COPO was new...COOL pic!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54302-copo_new_pic_12.jpg


Newspaper Ad:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54304-11.jpg

Canadian docs:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54305-gm_of_canada_copo_10.jpg


Z/28

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54306-seven.jpg


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54307-one.jpg



Canadian docs:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1805-54308-gm_of_canada_z_28_9.jpg

[StriperSS]

Yes.

[ScottG]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: P.J.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they were also Bobby ORR fans I see.Nice pics
suprss70 </div></div> Who isn't a Bobby Orr fan ?

[NorCam]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Colesy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's Kinny's 69 Camaro. ..........Bill </div></div>

Does anyone know if that car survived as it was or where it may have ended up?

Either of the Camaro's for that matter.

[firstgenaddict]

Wow NK1... only the second documented NK1 wheel, first I saw was on Lillard's old conv with 2 page window sticker...

[PeteLeathersac]

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There's other pics here of Buck Kinney's '69 but anyone w/ more of his '67 car?
No luck running old plate #'s in BC anymore?
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~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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Heres a few more pics of Buck Kinney's cars + a blurb from his NHRA Hall Of Fame induction.
Note there's at least 3 different white cars w/ '67 Coupe as above also '68 Coupe and '68 Ragtop as pics below.
Mussallem Motors closed in 2006 and building destroyed by fire in 2017 then demolished in 2018.

~ Pete
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Buck Kinney's Mussallem Motors sponsored '66 Impala.
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Another shot of Buck Kinney's Mussallem sponsored '67 Coupe as previous page.
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Buck Kinney's Mussallem sponsored '69 Chevelle, note the F41 also roof stripes.
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Poor pics but here's a couple more of Buck Kinney's '68 'Vert also '69 Coupe.
Very Motion like stripe and tail paint on the '68 'Vert also looking closer at pics above + preceding page, both the '68 Coupe and '68 'Vert appear to have this same stripe style.
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~ Pete

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[SMGCO]

Great pics and information !

[PeteLeathersac]

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~ Pete

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[PeteLeathersac]

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Here's a few articles/pics w/ Buck's '72 Chevelle 'Vert, '71 grille/lamps in some shots to meet year rules also earlier pics w/ Mussallem on the 1/4's.
Interesting history on the '72 'Vert before Buck, purchased new by New Jersey's John Hoffman who earlier built the Ray Allen '70 'Vert, both cars w/ BBC power by Truppi-Kling!
Sold at BJ in 07&13 maybe more times also this page still alive w/ more pics of the car + Buck's NHRA certificates etc...
http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/43119/index.html

Cool stuff and Buck Kinney was sure one serious racer!
Especially being the only Canadian NHRA Hall of Fame Member, gotta wonder what other of his cars are known today?:hmmm:
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Looks like an unhappy Vauxhall owner...man, I'd love that Vaux today!
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[TomP]

So that explains why COPO sales were slow!
Was the white Chevelle SS396 sedan a Musallem car?

Another question, since Canadians seem to abound here. Did local Pontiac dealers sell both Beaumonts and GTO's together in the 64-69 era? In old pictures it appears they only had the Beaumonts. I recall as a little snotlicker seeing a new GTO Judge at the Victoria dealership but that was after Beaumonts were phased out. I don't recall seeing GTO's before that but I was also even younger.

[StriperSS]

So that explains why COPO sales were slow!
Was the white Chevelle SS396 sedan a Musallem car?

Another question, since Canadians seem to abound here. Did local Pontiac dealers sell both Beaumonts and GTO's together in the 64-69 era? In old pictures it appears they only had the Beaumonts. I recall as a little snotlicker seeing a new GTO Judge at the Victoria dealership but that was after Beaumonts were phased out. I don't recall seeing GTO's before that but I was also even younger.
You could buy a GTO from 64 - 68 in Canada, but they were pretty expensive, so they were few and far between. 69 was the last year for the Beaumont, and the first year for plentiful and affordable GTO's.

[John]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My friend owns the orange one. I am thinking of buying it.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-19210-48625-orange_copo1.jpg
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Is that car back in Canada? I tried it out, &amp; came close to buying it when it was on Musseleum's used car lot in 1970 ($4800).

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[PeteLeathersac]

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Buck Kinney and his ‘67 running Tony Hill’s VW Oval at Mission.
Hill’s VW was co-sponsored by Hurst hence sweet Linda on the scene in BC.
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[chevelleheart]

Also sold there….earliest documented LS6 Chevelle , that I am aware of.