1969 ZL1 CAMARO VIN LIST
 

<table border="0" width="623" cellspacing="1" align="center"><tr><td width="100%" align="center"><font size="5" color="#808080">1969 ZL1 CAMARO INVENTORY</font></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" align="center"><p align="left"><font color="#808080" size="2">DISCLAIMER: The sYc is posting this info to the public to aid and assist in locating and verifying the listed Supercars. We make no warranties as to the correctness and cannot guarantee that these lists are complete. The info compiled here has come from some of the top experts in the hobby but should in no way be construed as Gospel. There are bound to be errors in a project this big but they will be corrected when they are discovered. Just because you find a car with a VIN that is on the list does not protect you from the chance that there has been a rebody or tags made up. These lists should aid you but should not be the sole reason you believe the vehicle to be a Supercar. Any reproduction of this information without written consent is prohibited. © Yenko Sportscar Club, 2004</font></td></tr><tr><td width="100%" align="center" height="1229"> https://www.yenko.net/attachments/background6.GIF </td></tr><tr><td width="100%" align="center"><p align="left"><font size="2" color="#808080">* ZL-1 exterior colors courtesy of COPO Connection</font></p></td></tr></table>

I've own car 124379n618522 for years which shows#45 zl1 . the car was in bad shape with sheet metal over dash and VW steering column. I've tryed reaching out to Dave hallman Chevy few times without any luck on any history .

Any original running gear?

Old ad.

Do you still have it? What kind of shape is the car in now? Any pics?

Wow an unknown ZL-1. That's wild.

That makes 50 known to exist, in a variety of forms.

No running gear was barely a body left

Vancopo, I sent you a Private Message.

Ed Cuneen had this car listed as a known car on his old COPO Connection website.

Vancopo....Do you still have it ? Any pics ?

# 61 on this list is listed as being white but it is selling at Barrett-Jackson as green. ??

61 was sold out of Oklahoma, and if my memory serves me right (big IF) it was originally white.

I am almost certain I have seen a picture of it on the showroom floor.

But.... CRG is showing Fathom Green.

#61 was originally Fathom Green.

I wonder where the white came from.

It is listed as being white in the May 1994 edition of the COPO Connection registry.

During restoration in 2007 it became obvious it was originally green, subsequently verified by its original owner.

Does it have it's orig. trim tag ?

It was a modified drag car nearly since new, original tag gone.

So it was painted white at some point?

Tell me I am not dreaming.

No, it won't. They have had all the ZL-1 auction data needed for a decision for over six months. They just don't like it.

I have unfortunately become involved. I provided auction results for dozens of ZL-1s dating back over 15 years. In that time ONE ZL-1 Camaro auctioned over $1m and that was #59 AFTER it re-acquired its original engine. It hammered for $995,000; the buyers commission pushed it over the top. It could be said it did not sell for $1m.

The investigator ignores figures that don't agree with his narrative. The very same car sold at B-J 2018 for $770,000 when it did not have its original engine.
Another comparable sale was nom ZL-1 #60 at Mecum Kissimmee 2021; hammered for $750,000. That's a great recent example that has once again been ignored.

No genius-level investigation needed; all easily available public knowledge.

#61 will be just another data point added to the dozens they already have. If hits the number, they will use it. If it does not, they will ignore it.

Link to listing on B-J site:

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ARO-ZL1-261819

Looks like BJ is adding this notice at the bottom of EVERY auction item, even later model cars.

**VIN NOTICE: DEPENDING ON THE STATE OF REGISTRATION OF THE BUYER, THE VEHICLE MAY REQUIRE AN INSPECTION AND BE SUBJECT TO A STATE-ISSUED VIN AND/OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THAT STATE.**

Sounds like it was a old drag car painted white. Would love to see the report on it.

Here is the JM report on ZL1 # 61. Being a old drag car with the firewall cut one would think there would be mention of the trim tag and hidden vins. I deleted the top of the main page for privacy.

Here is the supposed original block that has since been found and installed.

The consignor should change their description.

"Numbers matching" is confusing and often interpreted as not the original engine.

Maybe the consignor isn't positive that the engine that was found is the original engine? Can't pin down the chain of ownership of the engine? In any case, William is obviously correct - the facts behind the car/engine reunion should be added to the description.

Well, that could depend on who found it.

The car has been certified, and the trim tag info is documented. Usually it is stated; this is the original trim tag, and I don't see that in the report. Since the car had firewall issues, the question about hidden VIN's is critical.

I keep a file on the ZL-1 race cars. This is an old screen shot I saved on #61 where they said it was an old sand drag car

My goodness, how the mighty have/had fallen.

At least they didn't cut it up and make a pullin' tractor out of it.

K

----You just can't make that up!.....Bill S

some ZL-1s got it worse then that. At least one was said to be " berried alive " in an insurance fraud deal.

A few others were reported stolen.

And then there is the guy in Canada that got "air titles" for 5 of the missing ZL1s, excuse me ZedL1s.

Updated auction description on # 61.

Hammered at $700K

Motor?
 

Could be a law suit in the works. Craig Jackson stated it was the original motor but I had not heard that it truly had been found." Jerry Macneish certified "does not mean the motor was certified to be original to the car unless he specifically states that. Without seeing the macneish report it is irresponsible to assume anything other than that this cars cowl has VIN numbers that are on the Cunneen ZL1 list. This VIN is on the list as a Dover White non spoiler car, but evidently there is a problem as it is Fathom Green. Wait, Barrett Jackson says repo trim tag, so what color was this ZL1 when new? Maybe donor sheet metal was of a fathom green car so assumptions were made? Is there any 1st or second owner information available? and what about the spoilers, D80 or not? I would appreciate any accurate input if anyone wants to share as I am only speculating.

I think William stated when it was torn down for resto it was found to be green. I looked thru the cowl and there was no hidden vin. Since it didn't have a trim tag due to the firewall being cut out for racing I wonder how Jerry came up with the body # and trim tag details since there was no tag. I was told that someone with multiple images of other ZL1 engine stamps that the one on this one is different so I assume someone found a correct block and stamped it. My opinion is a ZL1 Camaro is a different breed of Chevy because they are documented by their vin's. I don't add as much value as some others if it has it's orig. engine or not. I would rather have a good color 4 speed with the wrong engine than a column shift auto with it's orig. engine. It apparently does have it's orig. vin tag with orig. rivets so I think it is still a car worth restoring even with all the undisclosed issues.

Congrats to both the buyer and the seller.

The individuals who tracked and found ZL1 number #61 are here on this site, but do not post often. So if they choose to add or correct any of the info provide , I would defer to their info, as that is where I got it from.

I did not see the physical car itself, in person. I was contacted when the car was “found” many years ago. It had owner and racing history and only the public riveted vin. No trim tag and no secondary VINs. The complete firewall had been cut out.

As far as establishing a body number, it would be relatively easy to guess based on the tags of other ZL1s as well as the existing CRG data base, if someone had access to that info.

The original engine was not with the car when found it was purportedly added / reunited during the restoration.

The highest verified ZL-1 body number is on #60; #326262. They just used the next higher number. VIN tag looked fine to me.

It was definitely Fathom green, lots of original paint found during the resto. Was not built with D80. Lid flunked the close test, both rods were the same size.

As for the engine, all lots are sold as described by their consignor. The block has a matching VIN. The car got a lot of attention and attracted strong bidding. The resto is over 15 years old and looked great.

Have had a few questions about ZL-1 #68, owned by Craig Jackson since the '80s. Saw him in the main exhibit hall Friday morning and asked him about it. Couldn't have been nicer. Pulled out his phone, showed me pics of the restoration and the docs. He mentioned the controversy over its original straight-neck radiator. Told him it is unusual but there are a very few other COPOs with one, including a car within a day or so of his.