[DarrenX33]

Sorry I don't have any sure fire remedies for this one. But I recall how difficult it was when I removed mine about 10 years back. My removal is like yours. I only had the carpet pulled back. Persistance, some giggling and getting them around the dash eventually got them out. And yes, I had to loose up the hand brake lever. Installing was equally annoying. Good luck. I feel your pain cause I actually need to take mine out again and get new ones due to broken vent cabling. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/mad.gif[/img]