[jtower1969]

I always use the stands.. My dad was trapped under a car in the 60's. the hydrolic fluid leaked out of the jack. The car didn't fall, it put enough pressure on him that he couldn't get out. He yelled for help until a neighbor rescued him. He drilled a few things in my head, use stands, and clean and put the f#%~ing tools back in the right spot. Lol