'69 Z28 EBAY

**Tracker1** · #1 10-02-2012, 11:50 AM

Sorry if this one has been discussed before. I am really interested and would like opinions. Thanks in advance.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/261104917030?...#ht_651wt_1064

**69 Post Sedan** · #2 10-02-2012, 12:07 PM

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**Lynn** · #3 10-02-2012, 12:30 PM

Well, I am not a fan of bashing cars... but the way this one is misrepresented sure leaves the door open.

Where to start. Chance the engine block was cast Feb 5 and not assembled until March 21: somewhere between slim and none. Possible? Yes. Likely? No.

How does an unrestored car get a Ford Caution Fan sticker on the shroud?

Car is indeed a special paint car, but came with white vinyl top. That means this unrestored original had the little pegs for the vinyl top trim ground off.

Undercarriage looks to have been hit hard with a rattle can. If it were truly an unrestored original, there would be plenty of overspray.

Radius on the rear strips by the back window is all wrong.

Grill should be silver in the egg crate portion, and painted body color on the surround.

May be just poor lighting, but the gas tank appears to have been painted flat black.

Where did you get a pic of the trim tag? I don't see one on the auction listing.

If I were selling a true original car with the original motor and trans, I would be darn sure to post clear pics of the pad stamp and partial vin stamps.

Proceed with caution.

**Tracker1** · #4 10-02-2012, 12:37 PM

thanks Lynn [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

I asked the guy to email me a pic of the trim tag and he did so.

**Charley Lillard** · #5 10-02-2012, 01:11 PM

Yes it has a bunch of crap wrong with it but if it has the orig engine I would love to have it. I look at radiator, deep groove pullys, rad cap, cowl induction seal that is not on inside out and all those options, guages, console, rosewood, power windows, remote mirror,chambered, deluxe interior. Cool car that has potential. Need to see the engine #'s though.

**Tracker1** · #6 10-02-2012, 01:22 PM

**Tracker1** · #7 10-02-2012, 01:44 PM

**Tracker1** · #8 10-02-2012, 01:46 PM

not loving the DZ stamping - looks like it has serifs?

**Lynn** · #9 10-02-2012, 06:15 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes it has a bunch of crap wrong with it but if it has the orig engine I would love to have it. I look at radiator, deep groove pullys, rad cap, cowl induction seal that is not on inside out and all those options, guages, console, rosewood, power windows, remote mirror,chambered, deluxe interior. Cool car that has potential. Need to see the engine #'s though. </div></div>

I agree. Engine is the key.

I also agree the elongated 7 is consistent with other LA cars. Problem is that the partial on the trans doesn't have the same elongated 7. They would have been stamped about the same time with the same gang set up. One other complication: looks like the trans was hit twice. Perhaps the first one was struck so poorly, that someone tried to duplicate it at a later date. Should have left it alone. Also, doesn't the "1" cast in the tranny case indicate it was cast in January? If so, it is looking more promising.

As for the DZ stamp, there is no difference between a Norwood DZ and an LA DZ. Both of those were stamped in Flint. It is only the partial vin that was stamped in LA or Norwood. I can't tell from that pic whether it is legit. I am betting that KurtS can tell. Also, although the ad says the engine was built 3/21, I can't make out the 3 at all. If it is really 2/21, that is a bit more realistic assuming they got the casting date correct.

Car just needs some serious investigation. Like Charley says, it does have some great options. Looking above the tank would be a great place to start. Born with engine and trans would make it a pretty good deal at theat price.

**firstgenaddict** · #10 10-02-2012, 01:57 PM

Does it look like the deck was cut lightly? but preserved the stamp?