ZL-1 # 40 on Ebay - Page 4

**csx289** · #31 08-17-2005, 06:37 PM

For what it is worth, I know #40 and was second in line to buy it from Al Maynard. You are right that Scott Tiemann's work is perhaps as good as it gets. He is an artist, just has that "magic touch" that makes even green cars look good!

I was in the American Performance circle at Meadow Brook with Jim, showing my 65 Shelby GT350. We both won blue ribbons. #40 looked great, Jim has really done a nice job with the car installing an original interior he sourced from another Camaro.

As far as values and the legitimacy of the auction, well, if it sells we will know if it is real or not. If it does not sell, I would have to agree that this may be the best $40.00 Jim has ever spent advertising his business.

That being said, I hope he gets a million bucks for it, because I just bought ZL-1 #18, the ex-Charley Lillard / ex-Larry Bowman car - blue, 4 speed, original motor and lots of paperwork. I will be selling this car at the Mecum Fall Premier auction in October. You know, one of those live auctions where you can really see who is bidding - LOL. I am assuming the first bid on my car will not be $775k, but, if it is, my reserve will be off!

Colin

Les Quam · #32 08-17-2005, 07:00 PM

Patrick,

What 71 HEMI cuda hardtop has sold for more than the 735K this one brought and the 785K it brought a week later when the buyer at the auction sold it??? Are you referring to the 71 HEMI cuda convertible sales??

**csx289** · #33 08-17-2005, 07:07 PM

I think Patrick is referring to the one that sold recently for $1m. If Rich P wakes up and turns on his computer, I am sure he will fill us in. Well, we may not be able to understand what he types, but maybe we can hire a translator? LOL

I have heard of a few 71 Hemi Hardtops selling for more than $785k. And Galen Govier swears that Legendary's car did indeed have the original motor, as Galen found it for them and brokered the deal. Just what I have heard.

Fred E ? Rich P? Chime in, guys.

Colin

**Charley Lillard** · #34 08-17-2005, 07:26 PM

Congrats on the ZL1 Colin. That is one of the few with the orig. engine. Can I have it ? I think we now know what Colin is required to bring to the drags at SCR8. That really is a awsome car that I wouldn't mind owning again.

Pssst....For the kind words will you buy me a steak dinner in Monterey ?

**csx289** · #35 08-17-2005, 07:55 PM

Sorry Charley, no dinner for you. Me neither, I am on Beanie Weenies for a while from stretching to buy #18! But thanks for the kind words. And you can't "have" it, but you can own it again. I like that barn with the pretty floor.

Let's see, do I really want to drag race a ZL-1 and risk the original block? I am already down one race car this year, maybe I shouldn't push my luck?

I say we should have a Cobra vs. Super Snake drag race. I am ready to break into the 14's, how about you, Mr. "The Velcro Slowed Me Down"???

If you are game, I'll see if the lame guys from "Pinks" want to come and sanction the Shelby Show Down. I always wanted a Super Snake. LOL. Or, better yet, how about your hot rod 65 vs. my 289 Cobra? Just ideas......

Colin

PS - How is the new baby, Grandpa?

Les Quam · #36 08-17-2005, 08:22 PM

When I called and talked to David at legendary prior to the car going to Mecum I was told the 7000 mile 71 HEMI cuda did not have the original motor or trans or original paint. When I asked where the original motor and trans were, David told me he didn't know. Which I found odd since they purchased the car from the second owner whom I presume purchased it from the original owner and had a ton of paperwork on the car??

After the auction I spoke to Galen about a great running HEMI challenger I had recently bought and we discussed the 71 HEMI cuda and the lack of an original motor so I am surprised to hear the car now has an original motor?

Even more surprised to hear there may be more sales of 71 HEMI cuda hardtops for over 785K. I would like to learn if this is reliable information or not?

mr396 · #37 08-17-2005, 08:31 PM

There's a second bidder, This could get interesting.as far as green car's go,ever since I bought my sequoia green camaro,I have really come to like some of the darker green's,especialy with the steel painted rims and standard cap's

**csx289** · #38 08-17-2005, 08:58 PM

When Legendary's green 71 was at the auction, I was walking around with Galen and he told me the whole story about how he located the original block and Peter rebuilt it and installed it in the car. I don't see what Galen would have to gain by stating the car had its original motor if in fact it did not? That would seem to be a loosing situation for Galen and his reputation. Peter and David from Legendary also told me the car now had its original motor back in it , and it was represented as such by the auction.

As far as originality , the whole car look restored to me , like it was a rotisserie job. Pretty much making the 7k miles a moot point , as the car looked brand new all over.

As far as my information on other sales, it was reported to be reliable but one can never tell with these Hemi Cuda sales reports. I heard all of the reports at Meadow Brook in the company of the Mopar gurus gathered around the Hemi convertible display. You know, the circle of cars that is worth more than every house in my neighborhood

1970ChevelleSS · #39 08-17-2005, 09:43 PM

Now 2 bids!

**njsteve** · #40 08-17-2005, 11:00 PM

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You know, the circle of cars that is worth more than every house in my neighborhood

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More like every neighborhood in my city!

I've known Galen for 25 years give or take a few. He would not risk his reputation stating any information that was not accurate about a car. I would stress that if you heard it from him it is quite different than if someone told you he said it. You get a lot of that in today's market. Galen is a very good detective when it comes to tracking down old drivetrains. He does get paid well for his work, too.