1970 W-30 convertible

StealthBird · #1 05-03-2013, 03:40 PM

I saw this while browsing the Hemmings site, and it looks very interesting. 1 of 264 made, and very complete.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...2/1571820.html

**PeteLeathersac** · #2 05-03-2013, 04:38 PM

Cool car and story but other than parts w/ the car is the W30 confirmed w/ any paperwork etc?
Dealer info shown doesn't appear to include it?
VIN 344670M231306

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~ Pete

**Canuck** · #3 05-03-2013, 10:01 PM

Cool car and history.

**DW31S** · #4 05-04-2013, 02:19 PM

Kinda resembles the former "Paul Mayo" race car now owned and restored to original by Ron McHugh.

442w30 · #5 05-06-2013, 02:38 PM

Made Hemmings "Find of the Day" too!

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/...0-2/?refer=news

**Fast67VelleN2O** · #6 05-08-2013, 12:50 PM

Isn't that WAY under the money for a W30 vert?

**DW31S** · #7 05-08-2013, 08:11 PM

There are some definite good and bad points about this one. Most I guess, well maybe some, outweigh the others. The colors, while rare are not the most desirable. The Pace Car history adds to the history, but the wreck (totaled at on point) and the 150,000 miles sure don't. I am not knocking the guys car at all, no one loves Oldsmobiles more than I do, but if that car requires any major restoration work, (the seller admits to some battle wounds), then you can become upside down REAL QUICK. A good restoration shop would probably want $50-60k to do that car, then your in it for a buck and a half, and IMO, would struggle to sell it recouping your investment. PLUS, The major part of the W-30--THE ENGING-- is gone. If you research what restored, matching numbers, freshly restored '70 W-30 AUTOMATICS with questionable paperwork are selling for, I think you will see my point. The audience of lookers is huge, the amount of interested, qualified, buyers isn't. I wish the seller all the best and hope the car does go to the right person.

442w30 · #8 05-08-2013, 09:00 PM

The #match engine is still between the wheelwells, per the ad's description. Not sure where you got that idea.

HO455 · #9 05-09-2013, 03:10 AM

Hey Mike-cool W-30 with an interesting history & color combo. Maybe the Thornton’s will pick it up and run it through the next Barrett-Jackson auction. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]

**DW31S** · #10 05-09-2013, 10:43 AM

Earlier in the ad it clearly states the "F" heads were missing, carb., distributor, were from 1973, and had headers. It does say matching block. Those are pricey, and an important part of a W-30 package. Later in article descriptions says "F" heads and exhaust manifolds were found. No mention of correct and "possibly correct dating" on those items. Nowhere did I read that carb. and distributor were found.
I am not knocking this car , and it is truly a rare car. However, IMO, unless the originally missing items that were found are "correctly dated", and a "correctly dated and coded" carb. and dist. are located and installed, the car can't be a "born with" drivetrain. In the world if $150-250k Oldsmobiles, if ALL the important items are not present and installed, the buyers will balk. Will they WALK? Maybe not, but again IMO, without those "W" specific items the knowledgable, qualified, buyers will shy away from an "over the top" sale.
If it were mine, I'd hunt down those "tough" parts, if only to add to the list of "W" stuff that IS there.
No argument here, just my take on this car.i