unusual 1969 Camaro with dealer installed sunroof

[Mr70]

WTF

[Rat_Pack]

<font color="red"> mr70 </font> I am with you! Okay I will list the std steel wheels and codes only with sizes and applications for the disc brake equipped 68-70 Novas &amp; 68-69 Camaros below. ALL Chevrolet cars in 1967 with disc brakes received rally wheels with the flat cap that said DISC BRAKES on them. Rally wheels were not available on drum brake cars until 1968 and that is when Chevrolet went to the "derby hat" style center cap and it did not designate drum or disc brakes.

<font color="blue">camarojoe </font>, I have never seen a manual disc brake Camaro until 1970 but not sure if they were available on the Novas in 1970. Disc brakes automatically required the J50 power booster on all 67-69 Camaros and 67-69 Novas. There are a couple of disc brake non-SS 69 Camaros around here and both are 350 cars. If you take the total production of SS and Z28 plus a guesstimate of 500 COPO Camaros including the ZL1's that gives you an approx total of 57,000 Camaros with disc brakes in 69. Chevrolet production totals show a little over 67,000 Camaros were equipped the J52 option so that leaves around 10,000 base Camaros equipped with power disc brakes. Not a lot compared to the number of cars built. Also the 7" wide wheel did not come out until 1969 and those were limited to SS &amp; COPO models on the Camaro and SS models on the Nova that same year.

Std steel wheel applications for disc brakes:

XF 14 x 6

68 Camaro all with disc brakes
68 Chevy II all SS and all with disc brakes
69 Camaro all with disc brakes except SS &amp; COPO
69-70 Nova all with disc brakes except SS, and optional wheel on drum brakes in 69.

FC 14 x 6


68-69 Camaro all except disc brakes

Not used on the Chevy II/Nova

XT 14 x 7

69 Camaro SS &amp; COPO with disc brakes
69 Nova SS with disc brakes
70 Nova SS &amp; COPO with disc brakes

Thanks to Alan Colvin for helping out. I hope this clears things up........... RatPack............

[Jonesy]

Yes and there is a forgotten one IF wheels also came on 1969 SS Camaros. Its on my buildsheet and confirmed by the CRG.

[Kurt S]

&gt; Disc brakes automatically required the J50 power booster on all 67-69 Camaros

Not true. 67 Camaros had manual discs available. 68-9 had only power discs.

I'm not quite sure on the production #'s. J52 was part of the 69 SS package and was not ordered separately. I'm not sure if that 67,000 total includes SS cars or not. I should know that......

[Rat_Pack]

Kurt my error on the manual discs in 67 for the Nova, Chevelle, Camaro, and Impala as I was thinking 68-69 and typing something else. I have that problem from time to time. And yes you should know whether or not that total includes the SS &amp; Z cars........ .... If the records shown are correct then there were 34,932 Camaros built with the Z27 SS option. However, if you add up all of the engines that were found in the SS models you will find that there were only 34,177 produced. The records are off by 755 units. Are we to consider that possibly the COPO's were considered SS cars? That would coincide with some peoples predictions of 500 or more COPO Camaros built plus the 69 ZL1's. Is this possible? That is why I figured the 67k J52 units sold was inclusive of the SS, Z28, &amp; COPO. If they are not inclusive that means half of the 69 Camaro production run received disc brakes. What do you think? Not sure what figures are correct anymore......... ...I was using the Camaro White Book 67-93 edition for the figures..................

Jonesy, I have a set of those IF wheels that came from a 69 SS350 car. If I remember correctly mine are dated December of 68, I know my XT's are...............RatPack...............

[Supercar_Kid]

I'm pretty sure you could get manual discs on a Camaro in 68 also. The SCW restored Kory Smith's Island Teal 68 Yenko a few years back and it was a manual disc car. It just had RPO J-52 front disc brakes...no power assist.

[Rat_Pack]

supercar kid, In 1967 the J50 booster was optional at $42.15 on top of the $79.00 for the J52 disc brakes. In 68 it became standard with the disc brakes and the price reflected it at $100.10. This is documented by many original window stickers showing J52 as power disc brakes. Also the dealer order books and the factory assembly manual reflect this same thing.
I bet the car had power brakes originally and someone removed the booster when they changed to a more radical camshaft or even the booster just failed and they didn't replace it............RatPack.....................

[Kurt S]

Yup, manual discs were not available in 68, had to have a booster too.

[Rathbone]

Could it have been a Z10? That sunroof would seem logical and cool in a Z10.

[Supercar_Kid]

Definitely not a Z-10...but a unique 69 Camaro worthy of restoration for sure.