69 X22 on ebay dealer installed 427...REAL?

Leonard · #1 05-14-2005, 03:40 AM

69 Camaro with dealer installed 427. Has warrantee card stamped VOID of 427 engine installation. Is it legit? Check it out. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...wItem&rd=1,1&item=4550101978&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA% 3AIT

**John Brown** · #2 05-14-2005, 03:48 AM

try this link

69Camaro

JChlupsa · #3 05-14-2005, 04:06 AM

Nice looking Camaro but I would look real close at the rear clip. Why would someone restore a car and fill in the back up light holes. Replaced tail panel could have been done and they forgot to cut out the areas for the back up lights, but the question would be why was it replaced, severe rust or collision damage!!! They also deceive you by saying [ QUOTE ]
<font color="orange"> The original 427 was completely rebuilt </font>

[/ QUOTE ] Yet they admit that it is a dealer installed 427 which means IT CAN NOT BE ORGINAL!!!

**SamLBInj** · #4 05-14-2005, 10:20 PM

did you read this part???
""This vehicle is being sold as is, where is with no warranty, expressed written or implied. The seller shall not be responsible for the correct description, authenticity, genuineness, or defects herein, and makes no warranty in connection therewith. No allowance or set aside will be made on account of any incorrectness, imperfection, defect or damage. Any descriptions or representations are for identification purposes only and are not to be construed as a warranty of any type. It is the responsibility of the buyer to have thoroughly inspected the vehicle, and to have satisfied himself or herself as to the condition and value and to bid based upon that judgement solely. The seller shall and will make every reasonable effort to disclose any known defects associated with this vehicle at the buyer's request prior to the close of sale. Seller assumes no responsibility for any repairs regardless of any oral statements about the vehicle""

Belair62 · #5 05-14-2005, 10:31 PM

I could swear there was a thread on this car previously...

**Lynn** · #6 05-14-2005, 10:39 PM

Cobbled up car at best with a resale paint job. Heater core bypassed. No wiper motor. Hurst super shifter with the tunnel cut up and a mongo boot to cover the hole. If it were truly a labor of love, someone would have taken care of those things, as well as the "easy fix" back up lights. I am always amazed at the guys that tell you about these "easy fix" deals. If it's so easy, why didn't someone do it?

I don't know about you guys, but I don't know why having a "dealer installed" 427 would make one of these cars more valuable than if the it had an "owner installed" 427 back in the day. I realize some of the first swaps such as Nickey, Motion and Yenko have historical significance. Personally, I wouldn't pay any extra just because a dealer installed an engine.

No telling how beat up and rusty this thing was. How much rust was properly cut out and repaired, and how much was covered up only to rear its ugly head in a few years?

Just my two cents.

Lynn

GM-26 · #7 05-14-2005, 10:51 PM

Its been pulled off E-bay...

JChlupsa · #8 05-14-2005, 11:15 PM

Still listed. Should have been painted its org Clacier Blue paint though instead of H/Orange

This cars trim tag is coded 53 B not 72 B
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<font color="red"> 1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8-cylinder engine
37 = coupe body
9 = 1969 model year
N = Norwood, OH assembly plant
580532 = vehicle serial number sequence

Decode for body number: 228125

01B = Built the Second week of January.
69-12437 = Coupe.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
711 = Standard Black Bucket Seats.
53-B = Lower Color is Glacier Blue and the Vinyl Top Color is Black.
X22 = SS396 with style trim
</font>

69LM1 · #9 05-15-2005, 11:35 PM

OK, probably going to be blasted but.........

I agree that the car does need a lot of love. But, if it was (of course a big IF) a dealer installed 427, then is that not getting into a fine line on the differance between a yenko installed 427 and one installed by another dealer?
Of course that also brings up the whole thread on COPO 427's vs Owner added 427's.

In the end, it looks like a good project, and if that paperwork on the vioded warranty is real, then that is cool in my book. If it stays in the $20,000 range (and the reserve looks like it is met at 20k) I think that is a OK deal (as long as it was not totaled from the rear).

I do think that the car would have garnered alot more respect if the current owner would have "finished" a few things and replaced a few parts. And also put it back to correct color.

Just my .02

Rich

DirtyS · #10 05-18-2005, 03:22 AM

As 69LM1 states, why is it something special if Yenko/Nickey/etc dumped a 427 in versus another dealer? I'll have to pump my dad for more info, but back in 69 his best friend bought a SS 396 Camaro from my family's dealership. Not being satisfied with the performance, he had the dealership install a crate L72 engine.

Should the one and only "Jones Camaro" be worth any less/any more than the others?

Perhaps this car is it? edit;Now that I have looked at the ad it obviously isn't. Being in Eldridge Iowa definitely perked me up though.

Close to WI.

I'm being only slightly facetious on this. Been meaning to ask if an unknown dealer car such as this would be respected like the famous ones.