1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

[StealthBird]

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but at a large cruise night around here, a 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car, with a stand up board, and a letter (from I think 1992) from GM Oldsmobile-Canada stating the car had a COPO designation, 1 of 3 cars made with a 4-speed trans, and a "special high-perf engine" (not sure if they were insinuating it may have been a W-30?). Anyway, I thought GM Canada was rock solid with documentation, I question the COPO designation.

Anyone know of this car?

(And I also saw the Jeff Morocco Chevelle there, and a whole slew of race cars. For anyone in the area, Rolling Meadows on Friday Nights is a great cruise spot!) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[JAD]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StealthBird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not sure if this has been discussed before, but at a large cruise night around here, a 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car, with a stand up board, and a letter (from I think 1992) from GM Oldsmobile-Canada stating the car had a COPO designation, 1 of 3 cars made with a 4-speed trans, and a &quot;special high-perf engine&quot; (not sure if they were insinuating it may have been a W-30?). Anyway, I thought GM Canada was rock solid with documentation, I question the COPO designation.

Anyone know of this car?

(And I also saw the Jeff Morocco Chevelle there, and a whole slew of race cars. For anyone in the area, Rolling Meadows on Friday Nights is a great cruise spot!) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...D=SC0510-90285

[StealthBird]

Thanks Joe, I <span style="font-style: italic">thought</span> this had been discussed before!

Not sure if this was the same car, the one we saw had the Indy decals all over it. I'll try to get a few pics soon.

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[442w30]

The car linked in the auction is a Cutlass, not a 4-4-2.

[Rockdaddy]

My cousin owns the car you guys are talking about. He did buy it from Mecum at the Indy auction. When the car was bought the info you saw on the board at the car show was what came with the car. COPO was put on the front windshield of the car at the auction. We are in the process of re-researching the car.

[StealthBird]

Rockdaddy, welcome to the site!

Questions: Did your cousin put all the Indy decals on the car after he purchased it? Also, I thought all 1970 Olds Pace Cars were built off the 442 model, and the one that sold at Mecum was a base Cutlass?

[Rockdaddy]

Thanks StealthBird
The Indy decals were on the car when he bought it. The pictures from the Mecum web site must be the wrong ones. The car was listed for sale on other sites that were correct. I'm in the process of trying to figure this car out.

[442w30]

Mike, I think 358 pace cars were Cutlass Supremes, and 268 were 4-4-2s.

[PeteLeathersac]

Not necessarily the case w/ this car but keep in mind how GM Canada Vintage Services 'documents' especially those supplied in the earlier years of their service can be sometimes confusing and/or misleading..

God love George and the way things are done at GM Vintage Services now but depending on the way GM Canada personnel ever interprets the Vin specific microfilm on file also how it jives w/ what they know and information available at the time has a lot to do w/ the what's printed on some GM Canada 'docs'...again especially in the earlier years of this service..

Welcome aboard RockDaddy!

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~ Pete

A '70 Pacer Post car would be cool!.

[SmallHurst]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mike, I think 358 pace cars were Cutlass Supremes, and 268 were 4-4-2s. </div></div>

Diego,

You remember the drop top Pace Car at the PSMCDR? That car is a Cutlass with a 455. So it can be confusing to say the least.

Welcome aboard, Rockdaddy!!!