1969 Camaro L78 conv ( came from east coast) - Page 5

**black69** · #41 01-02-2016, 07:27 PM

Glad the black light worked. There is no evidence there was ever a 4 there. I see more of the 2 in the non black light shot (the top corner, clear enough to define the size of the character). I see the left top portion of the X show up in the black light photo. All in all, looks like an X2 vs anything else. Any doubt, the untouched heater box confirms that (to me). I would never touch that glue, either.

**ssl78** · #42 01-02-2016, 09:50 PM

Bill thats very possible. I ended up taking the clamp off and trimming back the hoses before I installed the new one. Bob I didnt want to fool around with the glue I just left it.

**Bill Pritchard** · #43 01-03-2016, 12:33 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bbbentley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

My educated opinion is that would not give a conclusive answer.....There are so many variables that nothing conclusive could be measured from that pad thickness,IMO. </div></div>

X3

**MosportGreen66** · #44 01-03-2016, 12:35 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree. The pad dimension is established in the machining operation that locates the block off of "as cast" pads. Since the castings varied slightly - the thickness of the machined pad varied as well. One "tell" however, is the "lip" on the water pump casting when it bolts up to the block (the distance that the water pump sticks above or below the pad). Since the water pump mounting bolt holes are established from the same locating pads as the head face, there should be some consistency in "lip" area. I've seen some "original" stamps where the water pump sticks up way above the pad stamp area. It's not a 100% "tell" of a decked block, but certainly bad juju. JMHO </div></div>

Hi Bruce, wouldn't that assume that the water pump is factory born with original [not only an OEM unit but also to the car]? What was the sequence of installation at the factory? If the water pump was installed at the time of the broaching process (which in my opinion established absolute deck height) than maybe the observation holds weight but if we do not understand the process of broaching then I respectfully disagree and I think we could get in trouble using it as a means of passing judgment on what could be an original pad stamp.

Dan

**ssl78** · #45 01-20-2016, 10:18 PM

I recieved a letter back from PA dept of transpoertation it gave me the last registered owner in Pa. The car was last registered in Collinsville Pa in 2005 so it looks like it spent most its life in Pa, not really much to go on but at least its something.

**ssl78** · #46 01-20-2016, 11:53 PM

I made a mistake it was from Douglassville PA it sucks getting old.

**bergy** · #47 01-21-2016, 12:08 AM

Dan - The qualified dimension is between the broached pad face and the threaded hole for the water pump attachment. If that dimension is too small, the pad could have been decked.

**black69** · #48 01-21-2016, 12:48 AM

John, I would say, take the car on a trip, and spend a few key days in the area. That looks like a small town. Take it to the best turn out car show (I see there is one there, with a quick search). That is a unique stand out car, somebody will know it.

Also call the local town NAPA and other car shops, somebody may know it that way too. Maybe call the paint shops in town, if its been repainted once (which I believe it was).

I have had good luck doing things like above. Small town = good news.

**Salvatore** · #49 01-21-2016, 02:46 AM

call Marlin too.

Unreal · #50 01-21-2016, 07:53 AM

Small town, Marlin probably knows the car.