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Old 06-14-2013, 02:44 AM
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Have never seen a BM door tag that matches vin. Don Hardy was in Texas if I am not mistaken, not sure of any relationship with Baldwin Motion cars. He may have produced OTC parts later on but I can't confirm that either. Looks like I've got nothing. lol. If you think this is a REAL BM Vega, drop the coin on a verification, cause it's hen's teeth. There were so many of these V8 Vegas running around it was crazy, the kits were easy, almost all were without cages and tubs and many still ran the stock rear (until it blew).
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Same as the eBay listing notes, I remember reading that besides supplying V8 Vega kit parts to everyone Don Hardy said he built all the Motion Vegas.
Pretty sure it was a thread we had going here and within the last few years?

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Found the past thread also the link w/ Hardy history is still alive.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...7&amp;page=all

Hardy history...
http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/1...#ixzz1PqcVhE8C

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Here is Hardy talking about Motion in the Hot Rod story:

There are a couple of hyenas he'd rather forget, though. He corrupted an innocent Chevette with a V-6 that scared him enough to be deemed &quot;an accident looking for a place to happen.&quot; He also built all of the Vega conversions for Joel Rosen's Motion Performance on Long Island, then pole-vaulted over the sick-and-wrong line when he built a big-block version at Rosen's behest. I remember trucking out Sunrise Highway to Rosen's place sitting next to a Petersen ad stroke who yapped the entire way. I had a date with Frankenstein's daughter and he was making sure I kept it. Even as blase as I was then about matters of my mortality, I couldn't spend more than a few minutes in this wacky Vega without getting The Fear. It felt like a pendulum. There was a ton of weight over the front wheels and the rear tires hung proud on a 12-bolt that had never been narrowed. With the million pounds up front and a basically bound-up rear suspension, I could blow the tires off just by thinking about it. The car was as bouncy and as unpredictable as a Fuel Altered. Having slid sheepishly through one too many stoplights with the brakes on small-block conversions, I was reluctant to even try anything normal with the ones on this car, and all &quot;testing&quot; was done within blocks of the Motion building. And those afterthought sidepipes were a special touch. So freakin' loud they could have pissed off the cops over in Brooklyn. END QUOTE:

This again shows Rosens marketing skills as everything I have ever seen shows pictures of the Vegas having the big block installed at Motion Performance. Never had a clue that Hardy done the conversion.
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There's no end to the misinformation out there regarding Baldwin-Motion and Motion cars. If you want to know who built what when it comes to Joel Rosen's cars, read my book! Bottomline, all the V-8 Vegas,small &amp; big-block, were Motion, not Baldwin-Motion cars. Baldwin Chevrolet did not want to be involved in that project, but supplied Vegas when needed. And, they were built at Motion Performance and not by other vendors. Joel used some commercially-available V-8 engine conversion kits, but the cars were built at 598 Sunrise Highway in Baldwin, NY, not in other shops.
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Sorry but that door tag looks like it was just recently riveted onto it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Martyn L. Schorr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's no end to the misinformation out there regarding Baldwin-Motion and Motion cars. If you want to know who built what when it comes to Joel Rosen's cars, read my book! Bottomline, all the V-8 Vegas,small &amp; big-block, were Motion, not Baldwin-Motion cars. Baldwin Chevrolet did not want to be involved in that project, but supplied Vegas when needed. And, they were built at Motion Performance and not by other vendors. Joel used some commercially-available V-8 engine conversion kits, but the cars were built at 598 Sunrise Highway in Baldwin, NY, not in other shops.
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Perform.../dp/0760335389
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Thank You for clearing this up,I will indeed buy the book,again thanks.
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Thanks too for the clarification Marty and you're right, we should all read your book!
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