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Old 12-07-2017, 01:45 PM
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At my age I won't care by the time they implement that.
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:09 AM
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Well with no illness my family on both sides is living into the early 90's with today's medical care.

With advanced medical care yet to be developed who knows....so it is conceivable I could be looking at perhaps 40 more years of tinkering with old cars - so yes I do care about my cars and the future of our Fossil fueled automobiles in general.
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Well here we go- Europe has banned the sale of the GM 6.2 engine in Camaro and Corvette.

Unless this is fake news - this is exactly our worst fear:

https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-ne...amaro-ss-sales

https://carbuzz.com/news/new-chevy-c...nned-in-europe
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Europe has banned the sale of the GM 6.2 engine in Camaro and Corvette.
Sounds like an opportunity to do a reverse Yenko deal. Smaller engine instead of larger.
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Well here we go- Europe has banned the sale of the GM 6.2 engine in Camaro and Corvette.

Unless this is fake news - this is exactly our worst fear:

https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-ne...amaro-ss-sales

https://carbuzz.com/news/new-chevy-c...nned-in-europe
Yup -- the real reason is the Chevy's are spoiling the rule of the European cars ... just sayin' ... BMW, Mercs etc. are applauding this ...
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:11 PM
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6.2 today in a new car.. 426 HEMI in a collector car tomorrow...

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Old 06-06-2019, 09:49 PM
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Unless I have grossly misunderstood this, there is no bulls eye on the 6.2. The 6.2 simply does not burn clean enough in its present iteration to pass next year's emissions standards.

That doesn't mean that Chevy can't produce a cleaner version.

I will be the first to admit that in the early 70's I hated the EPA and blamed that agency for all the crappy cars we ended up driving. However, I will also be the first to admit that I was wrong. There is no way car makers would EVER have pursued and achieved the amazing (relatively) clean burning engines we have today. With the advances in technology, they even figured out how to build them with huge power numbers AND still make them clean burning.

I have no doubt that Chevy (and every other manufacturer) can make them even cleaner.

While I agree, we (collectors of old vehicles) need to stay vigilant to insure no governing agency in the U.S. passes laws that make our vehicles illegal, I have not seen any such proposed legislation that would do that. If they want to ban manufacture of of everything but electric cars in another 20 years, that doesn't mean every non-electric car on the road is suddenly gone. Just like cats in 1973. Didn't have any affect on the pre cat cars that were already on the road.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:28 PM
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Lynn,

As I pointed out in post #38 of this thread the issue in play is the global implementation of UN agenda 2030, and I want to reiterate that I want to keep politics out of this thread.

However for those of you that need to better understand the UN Agenda 2030 mindset simply have a look at this recent France 24 show and pay specific attention to the guest's stated position during the 3.50-5.30 mark.

https://www.watch-latest-news.com/ca...ion-standards/

On the specifics with the 6.2 on the way out, the C-8 will be mid engine smaller and will likely be simply be re certified for Europe in the near term.

Now please understand that our own version of Europe and Agenda 2030 is proposed right here in the US:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...ution/109/text

Pay special attention to the language at Subpart H.

Our cars have been coded as "ICE vehicles" for the purpose of compliance targets with agenda 2030.
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Carlton Reed has an excellent Piece in FORBES illustrating where NYC wants to go in its war on the car.

Yes Forbes not the onion or the babylon bee.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlton.../#2bdcd8bef4ed
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I love how the backdrop on the caption photo is "Making Progress Happen"
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