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When looking at a no motor, no trans hull, what did the COPO cars come with that the 396 cars did not?
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You would find a Cowl hood and the components for it on a COPO, but that could also be had on a 396 car, even though rare.

Single fuel line, but that did also a 396/375 have.

COPO could for the most cases be X11 or X44 on the trimtag. A 396 would,ve been X22 or X66. X11 or X44 were on all plain jane Camaros, even the six-bangers.

Probably a few more items that I for the moment can't recall :-)

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Wouldn't the COPO have the "BE" stamped rear too?
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Yepp, I did forget something :-o

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Default Re: COPO -vs- 396

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jireh Customs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When looking at a no motor, no trans hull, what did the COPO cars come with that the 396 cars did not? </div></div>

Aside from a VIN-stamped engine, there is nothing that will positively ID an L72 COPO. Some 396 SS cars had the same radiator and axles are easily changed.

There are some things to look for.

The first stop should be the VIN. All will have the 8 cylinder model number 124379 - 123379 is a 6 cylinder. No COPOs prior to 01B [Norwood] and about 99% of those went to Yenko. Very few if any built at Van Nuys. Production of COPOs for dealers other than Yenko began around 02D; Berger received many of these.

COPOs all had power front discs, ducted hood, BE rear axle, curved-neck radiator, dual exhaust. Much or all of that is generally removed for racing. Most [80%] were 4-speeds; column automatics are not unusual. X44 tags are typical with a few having X11.

So if the roller in question was built at the right time and has all the other characteristics, could be. Current market conditions do not support restoring such cars.

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Default Re: COPO -vs- 396

Vin 124379N66 and it is an X44 with the BB heater core &amp; break booster, 3/8 fuel line. It is an automatic car. If not a COPO it is at least a 396/375 car correct?
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Not with the X44 tag. L78 SS would be X22 or X66.
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That is at least a start. Next thing would be to look for the Cowl hood stuff, count the coils on the hood hinge springs.

It has disc brakes, check where the hoses are attached to the frame, on top or on the outer side.


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Default Re: COPO -vs- 396

the hole punched in the firewall for the cowl hood harness is right above the fuse panel. i am not sure of the size but is about 3/4ths of an inch. that is a good place to start as most x-44 cars with cowl hoods would be COPO's.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x77-69z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> most x-44 cars with cowl hoods would be COPO's. </div></div>

most??? ....were there any x-44 cars w/ cowl induction made that were <span style="font-weight: bold">not</span> COPO's ? those that were made by the General that is...
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