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Old 08-07-2017, 07:41 PM
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They are outlawing the sale of any NEW fossil fueled vehicles in 2040. It isn't much different than when the banned leaded gas and made new cars have catalytic converters. or how withing the next 6 years all cars will be required to get 50mpg. They told us that we couldn't buy a new car with a 12:1 compression big block that made 450hp and burned leaded gas. We conformed,and they even went so far as to remove the leaded gas that we needed to run our existing cars on. In 5 years you will be reading on Camaro forums about how to work on your electric hybrid supplimental motor on your 4 cylinder Z/28. Somehow or another we always end up conforming to their rules. No doubt that if by 2050 someone owns a petrol burning vehicle they won't be able to find fuel for it and will be mixing concoctions in their garages to keep them running.
Who would have thought in 1971 that in 2017 you could buy brand-new 450-500+hp Challengers, Camaros and Mustangs that got good gas mileage on pump gas? I wouldn't be so gloomy just yet. A LOT can happen between now and 2020, 2030, 2040.
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Old 08-07-2017, 07:57 PM
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Who would have thought in 1971 that in 2017 you could buy brand-new 450-500+hp Challengers, Camaros and Mustangs that got good gas mileage on pump gas? I wouldn't be so gloomy just yet. A LOT can happen between now and 2020, 2030, 2040.
Sure - like elections!
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California looks to be going first.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/tra...175740811.html
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250 plus million vehicles plugged into the electric grid every night, that should be interesting.
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250 plus million vehicles plugged into the electric grid every night, that should be interesting.
In April of 2011, multiple Tornadoes hit Alabama and most of North Alabama was without power for over a week. Imagine that in a world full of cars/trucks that need to be plugged in every night. I doubt the internal combustion engine will disappear any time soon. I do think our hobby will continue to change but it will be slow.


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Old 09-29-2017, 11:25 PM
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In all of these bans the one car that isn't banned is the hybrid. Just cars that use the ICE for 100% power all the time.

And it will take decades for people to replace their current cars with electric/hybrid/fuel cell after the ban is put into place. So who today will be alive 50 to 60 years from now?
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:37 PM
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our kids and grandkids.
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Framed another way: If I remain in good health I expect to keep the bulk of my collection for at least 30 more years.

A ban could cut either way as to the value at sale. Stuff that you cannot legally drive typically is hit hard on valuation at sale.

Not an outcome I want to see, nor an outcome anyone else wants - especially if handing a car down within an estate... just saying.
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Framed another way: If I remain in good health I expect to keep the bulk of my collection for at least 30 more years.

A ban could cut either way as to the value at sale. Stuff that you cannot legally drive typically is hit hard on valuation at sale.

Not an outcome I want to see, nor an outcome anyone else wants - especially if handing a car down within an estate... just saying.
The bans only deal with new cars sold. No one is stupid enough to outlaw ALL existing ICE cars. That just won't happen. You think Big Oil would let that happen? Plus the USA is a lot different in sheer size from France or England. The only USA wide transportation system we have are the Interstates.

It makes good press to say you will ban all new ICE cars sold . . . then you have to deal with the BILLIONS needed to create an infrastructure that can deal with electric/fuel cell cars. So how is the financial health of CA?

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So let them deal with the issue, just like we have had to deal with the issue of nuclear weapons after we dropped the A-Bombs on Japan to end WWII.
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