quick-bowtie
Reged: 05/27/05
Posts: 696
Loc: The North Star State
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Its the same car..its been floating around now for over a year.. Ive had numerous guys offer me that car. as the old saying goes.. "If it sound to good to be true then it probably is"
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69 NASCAR PACECAR Camaro 1 of 7
68 Shelby GT500 Convert
Some other GM and Mopar
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Pacecarjeff
enthusiast
Reged: 08/31/05
Posts: 346
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Seller seemed a little put off when I explained that I wanted to see a photo copy of the POP. I told him the people who make those still have not gotten it exactly right.
The whole thing really sounds fishy - He seems to be playing dumb. But I don't know for sure. And if it is real, the price is too low to pass up.
But as everyone remembers -
(if it is to good to be true.......)
Says he has owned 43 Corvettes and had them NCRS judged, but is unfamilar with some of the simple stuff.
The POP - does it look old?
 
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b4c_maro
newbie
Reged: 12/10/05
Posts: 13
Loc: Atlanta GA
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AS for VIN mathcing trim tag - VIN looks like early October, trim tag is 11A - that does raise a quesiton. I got a copy of the same POP, although the owner didnt seem to mind sending it or providing the VIN. Does it look right to the folks that have more knowledge about them than I do? Also, there is reference in the link that Jeff H provided about a brown COPO from Columbus that was tagged for a brown vinyl top but it wasnt on the car. Is the location/VIN of that car known?
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Tas Ward
Lawrenceville GA
'69 Z
'69 Plain Jane
'98 B4C
'02 B4C
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RPO L-78 SS 396
Reged: 12/04/05
Posts: 681
Loc: sparks, nevada
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does the inservice date on the pop say 11-7-69 as it appears in the photo. if the trim tag says 11a, then they got that car sold in one helluva hurry.
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a few big block 69 nova's
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resto4u
old hand
Reged: 08/15/02
Posts: 857
Loc: Madison,Wi.
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looks real to me. Vin# is N695386, that is what i see on the pop.
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67 Z28, 67 RS/SS 396 canadian
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b4c_maro
newbie
Reged: 12/10/05
Posts: 13
Loc: Atlanta GA
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Yes, it looks like 11-7-69 and the owner advised nothing was on it for the selling dealer or sales date. I sent an email to clarify if in service date was there or not. I'm thinking same thing - some things not lining up just right, but I sure dont want to write off the 'dream car' without knowing 100% that it isnt real...especially when it's one that I might could liquidate and actually afford.
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Tas Ward
Lawrenceville GA
'69 Z
'69 Plain Jane
'98 B4C
'02 B4C
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RPO L-78 SS 396
Reged: 12/04/05
Posts: 681
Loc: sparks, nevada
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on the older pop's that i've seen the gm tape insignia does not look fresh and green like that tape, also most of the time the tape has lost it's adhesive ability and is being held on by clear scotch tape jmo.
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a few big block 69 nova's
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SMGCO
enthusiast
Reged: 06/08/03
Posts: 294
Loc: california
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If it is the same car , now with pop, that was at wagners a couple years ago then it is definately a clone. I think wagners was the first to get fooled and was for some time attempting to sell it as the real deal. Our freind dennis tuttle was involved with this car for a while also. By the way anybody know what Mr. Tuttle is up to these days ? Would be hard to believe that he is still in business.
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b4c_maro
newbie
Reged: 12/10/05
Posts: 13
Loc: Atlanta GA
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6161x11 - yes, that part of the VIN matches, as does the additional digits that PaceCarJeff added. The trim tag does designate this car to have a brown vinyl top - did the Wagner car have that as well?
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Tas Ward
Lawrenceville GA
'69 Z
'69 Plain Jane
'98 B4C
'02 B4C
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SuperNovaSS
Reged: 09/10/01
Posts: 2722
Loc: Santa Cruz, CA
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I hope Tuttle is still in business. I still have an unsatisfied judgement against him.
Jason
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