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Canucklehead
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Re: COPO Camaro [Re: 69LM1]
      #176431 - 12/13/05 01:26 PM

You might want to look at the ZL1 clone for sale here, seems like a very nice car and he did a great job for a fair price. I think it's a better buy.

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69LM1
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Reged: 12/15/03
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Re: COPO Camaro [Re: Canucklehead]
      #176489 - 12/13/05 08:05 PM

Quote:

You might want to look at the ZL1 clone for sale here, seems like a very nice car and he did a great job for a fair price. I think it's a better buy.




Yes that is one fine ride. On the brown camaro, looks like (vin) numbers are not on the pad, so he wants to try and see if they are by the oil filter. Looks like more and more the car is not a "deal".

Rich

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Rich
www.69lm1.com/4sale
69 X66
70 Monte SS454
70 Z CoPo


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b4c_maro
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Reged: 12/10/05
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Loc: Atlanta GA
Re: COPO Camaro [Re: 69LM1]
      #176494 - 12/13/05 08:30 PM

here is the text of an email I received after asking some questions:

Here is the info. Motor 512-- I-14-8 Looks like the date on the block-----front pad ----T0923 MN----- Vin numbers in the side by the oil filter-----79n695386---- Trans---tail---3857584----case---3925660 ------#P9E28C---- Carb-----3959164-GE? List 4346---Date---983 or 988? Rear---- BE 09129 Its very hard to read the date on the rear end But you can see the (BE ) code. Her are some pics.

(not sure if I'll get the pic in, but it does have the vin)

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Tas Ward
Lawrenceville GA
'69 Z
'69 Plain Jane
'98 B4C
'02 B4C


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69LM1
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Re: COPO Camaro [Re: b4c_maro]
      #176684 - 12/14/05 10:20 PM

"Vin numbers in the side by the oil filter-----79n695386---- Trans"

Can this be (restamped) faked, like the front pad?

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www.69lm1.com/4sale
69 X66
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b4c_maro
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Re: COPO Camaro [Re: 69LM1]
      #176696 - 12/14/05 11:07 PM

I would think it could...if someone is good. VIN by the oil filter would be correct for the build date of the car. Big question is whether or not the VIN is stamped on the cowl panel under the wipers. Looks like I will be in New Orleans/Metairie 1st week of Jan. If car is still avail and schedule allows, I'll try to take a look at it.

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Tas Ward
Lawrenceville GA
'69 Z
'69 Plain Jane
'98 B4C
'02 B4C


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Pacecarjeff
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Reged: 08/31/05
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Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Re: COPO Camaro [Re: 69LM1]
      #176706 - 12/14/05 11:59 PM

Quote:

"Vin numbers in the side by the oil filter-----79n695386---- Trans"

Can this be (restamped) faked, like the front pad?




I would think it would be easier to stamp down there.
There are no machined pads or broach lines to worry about.
The numbers are generally hard to read anyways.

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Charley Lillard
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Loc: Woodland, ca. US
Re: COPO Camaro [Re: Pacecarjeff]
      #176719 - 12/15/05 02:34 AM

It has been awhile but one of the bogus cars started as a trim tag off a car in a junkyard. It was a burnished brown with a brown vinyl top trim tag. If you inspect the car you will see it has it's orig. 1/4 panels and they have never had vinyl top trim attached to them. That would give you a clue that the trim tag does not belong to that car. I believe Warren ? knew the details of the whole bogus car being built. It was even featured in a magazine. Somebody besides me has to remember the details better than me.

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MosportGreen66
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Re: COPO Camaro [Re: Charley Lillard]
      #176736 - 12/15/05 10:30 AM

I asked for pictures of the Camaro too... this is what he sent me.





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12bolt
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Reged: 01/25/05
Posts: 373
Loc: Pennsylvania
Re: COPO Camaro [Re: 69LM1]
      #176750 - 12/15/05 11:33 AM

Quote:

"Vin numbers in the side by the oil filter-----79n695386---- Trans"

Can this be (restamped) faked, like the front pad?


The VIN numbers on my former COPO's engine were crisp and clean. stamped into Rough Casting, It would not be an easy chore to pull off. I am not saying it is impossible to fake, but if you remove the paint from the area in question, you should be able to tell if it has been modified or not. in my opinion, the price that guys are charging for Clones these days he may as well call it that and he might get a Buyer! trying to pass off a car as Real when so much is against it does not seem like the "Smart Move"! maybe he cannot admit to himself that he got burnt? Rule no.1 : when you find yourself in a Hole, "Quit Digging"!

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DarrenX33
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Re: COPO Camaro [Re: 12bolt]
      #176791 - 12/15/05 02:14 PM

I think the asking price is one heck of a clue. Who is gonna part with a real COPO for under 90k? I remember the Olympic Gold two tone "COPO" at Mecum recently was sold at a bargin price.

Edited by DarrenX33 (12/15/05 02:22 PM)


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