Motion Camaro
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Reged: 03/30/02
Posts: 1593
Loc: Lighthouse Point, Florida
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Check out the site below 
COPO
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Mike Fabian
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bbbenny
Reged: 02/19/02
Posts: 315
Loc: lehighton,pa. usa
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question: if if is what it is. and the miles are correct! what about the shifter? all the t;s and i;s should be there for 170,000!!!!bbbenny 
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enjoy; orginal cars,with orginal drivetrains and docs. bblocks are my favorite.
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Alss
Reged: 02/26/02
Posts: 1380
Loc: The tax State of New Jersey
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And what about the color change?...Olympic gold is a "un-common" color and I think would add value to this car unlike the "re-sale" it was painted during the "correct" 95 grand resto.
ALbert
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1969 9566AA COPO Chevelle M-22
1969 Malibu ZL-1 Th 400
1969 Beaumont ZL-1 6 spd
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supercomp 8.90
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Reged: 01/15/04
Posts: 246
Loc: sarasota, fla.
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a good friend of mine david triplet, is re-building the 427 for this car. he had told me the price the dealer was going to ask for the car when completed and i thought it was high also, with it having a color change and all.
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Jeff H
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 02/15/01
Posts: 2207
Loc: Ewing, NJ
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NOM and incorrect color. Seems a little high considering those facts. Nice documentation though so that might add value. I still can't believe the COPOs are reaching these levels. Not to nit pick, but those tires look a little big(too tall).
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69 Z28 JL8, #'s match, crossram - being restored
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firstgenaddict
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 07/29/01
Posts: 2699
Loc: Greenville, South Carolina U.S...
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Those wheels look like 8" Corvette Rally's
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Collectin' Camaro's since "Only Rednecks drove them"
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Supergas990
Reged: 03/27/03
Posts: 241
Loc: Colgate, WI
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Not that I'm in the market at that price... But that seems very pricey!!!!
For $170K the car really ought to be totally correct in every respect. Maybe these are pictures pre-final restoration, and many of the issues will be corrected?
Nevertheless, I'll stick my neck out and say that NONE of the COPO Camaros at BJ later this month will touch mid $100's, much less $170K.
JMHO.
Blair
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1969 L78 SS396 Chevelle
1967 L30 Chevelle Malibu
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Z28DZ
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Reged: 12/01/00
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Loc: Elk Grove, CA
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Resale Red, Baby! But: "AND CARRIES A FRESHLY REBUILT ORIG. '512' 427/425 MOTOR." They state the trans & rear are original, what are they saying about the engine? Orig or not? Appears o have great paper. Then: "IT HAS UNDERGONE A RECENT, FRAME-OFF RESTORATION AND IS COMPLETE W/ NEW RALLY WHEELS , AND X-33 CHROME PACKAGE (IF DESIRED**)." & "MOTOR CURRENTLY IN RESTORATION- EXPECTED COMPLETION JAN. '05." So, is the car done or not? And , I guess, you can still add options! Ok: "HEMMINGS MUSCLE MACHINES" STATES 822 MN-CODE 4-SPEEDS", "CAMARO Z28 AND PERFORMANCE SPECIALS" STATES: 1,015 (822 4-SPEEDS /193 AUTOMATICS)." We know that was the # of engines produced not the # of cars. By the way: "WATCH THESE 'GO TO THE MOON' AT THE BARRATT-JACKSON AUCTION. BUY IT THIS MONTH ONLY..$170,000. RE-PRICED AFTER THE AUCTION." Nothing like " soft sell " to get you to drop 170 large. Not to mention the typos, etc. Love these cars!
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ANDY M
Reged: 04/13/04
Posts: 1668
Loc: Columbus, OH
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This car has been for sale for some time. If it is from Berger, the wheels are 15x7 because it's a double COPO.
IT IS NOT the "only" single order Berger because my car, according to KurtS, is a single order car. My trim tag has been posted on this site, but the ad for this car does not give any info on that or the VIN. It sould be an X11D80, but what is "X33" Trim?
If the car auctions for that much, there's a chance that I will refinance my house to do a complete frame off. I like driving it, but damm, that is a lot of $$$.
Is there a chance that there was another batch of COPOs ordered that wasn't picked up on? Seems to be some dispute over whether Berger sold 40 or 50.
Andy
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COPO 9561/9737 M40 X11D80
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ANDY M
Reged: 04/13/04
Posts: 1668
Loc: Columbus, OH
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See the last post on the Berger forum for details on my car.
Andy
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COPO 9561/9737 M40 X11D80
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HawaiianCamaro
Reged: 02/18/02
Posts: 7363
Loc: HI
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Andy, I was wondering why someone would say they can add a X-33 (Z/28) Trim to a COPO car as well. For better understanding of the "X" codes heres a link to CRG's site.
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes
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camaromb
Reged: 05/18/00
Posts: 267
Loc: Bensenville, Il USA
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Andy,
The gold Copo for sale is a base Copo not a 9737 optioned car; 14" wheels, M22, no radio, X44, March built car. It is the only base Copo ordered by Berger that has surfaced. The original owner Ben Wenzel called Berger in July '69 and wanted the cheapest Copo they had. Berger had 27 Copo Camaros on the lot at that time. This car had been ordered by Dick Ahrons/ Wally Booth for racing purposes but didn't come in in time so they built a 396 car instead. Ben said the car was never competative so he parked it with 50 or so miles on the disconnected odometer. The day 2 pictures were on this site a few years ago, red/orange stripes painted down the sides and top. It would have been nice if the car was kept day 2.
Mark
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Chevy454
Reged: 03/20/00
Posts: 11305
Loc: Alton, MO, USA
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Sounds like the same car in the thread below...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7162/page//fpart/1/vc/1
I know there are pictures of that car on this site somewhere, and I can see the car in my head, but I have yet to find anything other than that thread on here...someone help me out...
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Mr. T
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Reged: 10/15/03
Posts: 1421
Loc: Spokane, WA USA
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Quote:
Check out the site below
COPO
As of last week, this COPO 9561 is still for sale.
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Tony
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ANDY M
Reged: 04/13/04
Posts: 1668
Loc: Columbus, OH
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The link to Hemmings says they want $180K. It was only $170 before BJ. 
If someone offered me $95K for my incorrect, incomplete and no paperwork COPO, I would have to think about it. The grin factor is huge. 
I would love to see what kind of "new" documentation would be discovered after the sale. 
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COPO 9561/9737 M40 X11D80
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68TopStock
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Reged: 09/04/01
Posts: 483
Loc: St. Paul, MN, USA
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If this was Ben Wenzel's car, that is pretty good proof of what it is. He is still racing his '67Z28, and has been for 34 years. He is only a phone call away. 
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camaromb
Reged: 05/18/00
Posts: 267
Loc: Bensenville, Il USA
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The original owner did have the protect-o-plate and dealer invoice from Berger. Ed Cuneen told me it was the first Berger invoice he has seen. The car is real. Its just a shame it was painted red. I think the spoilers were also added. Where are those old shots on this website that showed it "as found" at Wenzel's house??? I'd like to see those pictures again. It was priced at $ 75,000, huge money it seemed at the time.
Mark
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ANDY M
Reged: 04/13/04
Posts: 1668
Loc: Columbus, OH
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My apologies if I sounded like I didn't beleive it was a real car. It is, and the history speaks for itself. However, as I told Jeff, I pray every day for stupid money. If I really wanted to sell my car, I know enough guys that want it, and the selling price would be fair, but if someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse, goodby COPO! 
As a lifelong car guy, there are things that I understand, and things that I don't. Why people offer cars at prices that are beyond beleif I can understand. Why people pay those prices is what I want to know.
Andy
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COPO 9561/9737 M40 X11D80
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Mr. T
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Reged: 10/15/03
Posts: 1421
Loc: Spokane, WA USA
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Quote:
Check out the site below
COPO
Another 6 months have passed, and this 69 COPO 9561 is still for sale. Price reduced from 180k to 165k.
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Tony
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