Need Input on Value - 67 SS Camaro, 69 Z/28

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Fellas -

With the market swings these days, I'm not so sure on value, so thought I'd run a few by y'all -

67 SS350 Camaro, Triple black (vinyl top) and stripe delete (special order car). Survivor in very good driver condition - original paint and interior, engine, etc. Maybe 50k miles. Has languished in a garage for 9 years. Have not seen it yet, but hope to see it soon. Realize it's tough to put a value without pics, but a ballpark would be nice. Car has docs (protecto-plate, and more, I think).

69 Z/28 R/S. Red (not Hugger Orange) with white stripes. Black interior. Gauges. Did not ask about cowl hood, but I assume it has one. Original DZ 302. In very nice condition; not concours restored, but very nice with one repaint. Have not seen this one either. Just trying to get an idea of what these are going for.

Thanks in advance for any info,

Scott

[firstgenaddict]

The 67 is probably worth 42-45k...

The 69 is harder to guage... there are alot of variable there... original interior? carb? smog? 837? 480? Ralley's?
If it is an non-professional resto with wrong finishes and missing the above items... probably only worth 35-40k once you start backing into a number based on a correctly restored car...
You could easily add 10k in big parts not to mention disassembly and refinishing components to make it correct...

Better off Going out and buying a correctly restored one for 75k or less...

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The 67 is probably worth 42-45k...

The 69 is harder to guage... there are alot of variable there... original interior? carb? smog? 837? 480? Ralley's?
If it is an non-professional resto with wrong finishes and missing the above items... probably only worth 35-40k once you start backing into a number based on a correctly restored car...
You could easily add 10k in big parts not to mention disassembly and refinishing components to make it correct...

Better off Going out and buying a correctly restored one for 75k or less...

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Wow - didn't realize the '67 would be worth that much; my guesstimate was much lower. Will see if I can check it out this weekend. I was closer to the value on the 69; figured around $40k in today's market.

Thanks for the input.

Scott

[firstgenaddict]

Maybe the 67 isn't worth quite that much but I figure triple black survivor makes up a lot of ground...

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Saw the '67 today - it's a stripe and rear spoiler delete car. Also has RS option, deluxe interior, A/C, cruise, tilt, gauges, front disc brakes (4 piston?), fold down rear seat, etc. Owner has the original order sheet (can see where he ordered with stripe and spoiler delete) and other documents; unsure on protecto-plate. Has 112k miles. Almost all original paint; one fender has been repainted from a minor fender bender.

Car is not actively for sale, but think it can be bought. Any other ideas on value after the additional info? Attaching some pics. I need another car like I need a hole in my head, but I'm thinking about it...

Thanks,

Scott

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[firstgenaddict]

No 67's had rear spoilers... AC, Cruise, dlx int, BLACK... What really adds the value is that Survivor Caution Fan sticker... must have sent the car from Norwood to Dearborn for decal application... LOL

Can I have it? I like the car... A LOT!!!

[TwoBryans]

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What really adds the value is that Survivor Caution Fan sticker... must have sent the car from Norwood to Dearborn for decal application... LOL

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I was thinking the same thing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif Pretty funny! Nice car and well worth looking into except for that. Congrats on the find! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[budnate]

cool car, '67's can be hard to value at times, they will pull what a guy thinks is fair money for what it is then a few will pop up and seem almost cheap but be decent cars..so then you figure crap the market is soft??

bottom line if its a solid RS/SS car with options and paper like this one there hard to come by, guys just dont let them go, a guy needs to crawl around this one and really determine if it really has not been touched all over before trying to put a number to it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

it's a '67 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Charley Lillard]

If the paperwork has spoiler delete written on it I would be very skeptical on any of the paperwork. Spoilers weren't available at all so why would someone try to delete something that wasn't evn around yet ? The "caution fan" sticker ids a repo part for a Ford so be very careful because those are two big red flags against it being survivor like you are being told.

[Mr70]

I was thinking that too.
How can you delete something that it never had in the first place?

[Bill Pritchard]

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Saw the '67 today ....Owner has the original order sheet (can see where he ordered with stripe and spoiler delete)

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I agree with Charley; that tidbit and the @!#^%& "CAUTION - FAN" sticker would be immense red flags to me.

[SSjeff427]

Only thing pops in my mind when the above mentioned "stripe and spoiler delete" was bouncing around the brain and then the picture under the hood popped up and all I could see was CAUTION FAN ,

RUN FORREST, RUN!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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I haven't seen the paperwork, and the guy I'm talking to hasn't seen the paperwork in at least 10 years, so my guess is that he just saw stripe delete. However, if it says spoiler delete, you're right, I should pass on this one.
However, lets say it all checks out, however - no evidence of any rust, all important original parts present, and solid paperwork - then what am I looking at for a price? What is the "you can't pass it up for that price" price? $30k?

Thanks for the input,

Scott

[Charley Lillard]

25K....probably can't pass it up. I'm not saying it isn't worth more, just that you can't pass it up.

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Thanks, Charley. I have more cars than I have room for, so it would have to be a pretty good deal for me to want to pick this one up.

Scott

[prototype]

Should it not have a disc brake pedal?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

The console gauges are just too "bright in color" they look like reproductions to me.

[rafbody]

I hope it works out and the car is the real deal. I love black cars with the black vinyl top and am partial to 67's. It is truely a beautiful car.