'69 lm1 camaro convt

[k92]

Since it is more important to sell the camaro ,cant you remove the post for the new camaro parts and leave the one about the car alone? FOR SALE 1969 LM1 camaro convt,numbers matching engine,trans,rear end with protecto plate. $20,000.00 for more details send me a PM or call 309 389 4207 after 5pm.

[1969l78]

Just pay the $25 and be done with it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Charley Lillard]

I removed your other ad K92. I won't do it again.

[k92]

I am protesting the new rule! Just what does it hope to achieve anyways? Who got hurt by the way things were done before? Yeah, I know I can pay the 25.00 and become a member again,like I have done many years before,but shouldn't we be trying to attract new members? I wasn't aware of a problem w/ the adds and if anyone thinks the new rules will prevent people from being scammed they should wake up.

[Charley Lillard]

I will let others answer.

[Born30YrsLate]

...GONG'm...I'm sure this site isn't free to run...
Can a non-member even protest?...

[akcamaro]

my .02 cents is... This site does not have a lot of trafic. I lurk here on an almost daily basis. There is usually 2-8 new adds in each section a day. That is not very much. I don't see what is acomplished by cutting down on the traffic even more.
I don't know the economics of running a website, but I was under the impression that more traffic=more money comeing in to support the site.

again, just MHO.

[shor]

i think k92 should be banned for blatantly violating the rules, even after being warned the first time.
if you want to protest, or discuss the new rule discuss it in the lounge section.....or better yet, call akcamaro and discuss it with him.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

[NovaMob03]

The home page says it all...
'Dedicated to the promotion and Preservation of Cheverolet built SuperCars and COPO cars'
It's not a site 'dedicated to sell your stuff' although people have great stuff listed here. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
The new rules seem fair http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[rubbinisracing]

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I don't know the economics of running a website, but I was under the impression that more traffic=more money comeing in to support the site.

again, just MHO.

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Me neither... but it's easy to figure out that paid membership contributes more to the cost of running this site than the visitors.


Rob,

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this site and some of its membership assisted in the sale of your LS6. A small $25 donation isn't out of line. It's cheaper than an eBay listing for the car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[k92]

Lest you critics forget,I have been a paid member for many years!! I,as well as several others, dont like the attitude of SOME of the people who post here{ members and non-members}. If only I had a dollar for everytime I was at a show and heard how the attitudes of some on this site have rubbed many the wrong way. So,I have an opinion that's different than some here and comments get posted that I should be banned or can I really protest anything because I have not paid $25.00??? This just solidifies my feelings about how the hobby has become to many. I still have yet to hear how anyone was hurt by the old system??? Geez guys,I would not buy anything from a guy w/3 posts,but would not hesitate to do so from the frequent flyers of the site who have established good reputations. If someone does not have the common sense to do make educated purchases then why must the site make up for their bad decisions? I've purchased/bought many things from members of this site with zero problems.

[LVCamaro]

Rob...it's a policy established by the administrators here. I'm sure you're familiar with policy in your job. Grinding on it won't change policy.

peace-out...

SS

[Bill Pritchard]

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Lest you critics forget,I have been a paid member for many years!......I still have yet to hear how anyone was hurt by the old system???


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Rob,

Your past membership is duly noted.

My guess is that the rules were not changed just because the site administrators felt the need to stir the pot. The new rules are not unreasonable. As Steve says, if you have issues with the new rules, this is not the 'right' way to address them.

[Charley Lillard]

More and more people were showing up just to post ads. They never joined in on any discussions etc. Enough people clamored for something to be done and the admins did the two ad limit to address the problem. It was not about making money.

[RamAirDave]

It's a tough call, but completely to the judgment of those that run the site.

I understand if it's just those that are only here to sell cars/parts. But that's not always easy to regulate. Can't really govern it by longevity, maybe by post count? But even that isn't completely logical, as people can run hundreds of posts only in for-sale ads only, as well as there can be people that have been here, without posting much, that aren't using the site strictly for sale ads.

Tough call. On TC, the classified sections are a bit out of hand, but it is a seperate section from the board, so the situation here is different.

[Late BrakeU2]

All this over twenty five bucks, quite frankly i'd be embarassed.

[RamAirDave]

The "team" sites, as well as other voluntary membership sites that Ive been part of, you never see posts pressuring/mentioning/telling (whatever you want to call it) others to become paying members.

If they want to, great. If they don't, that's fine too. That being said, I fully respect the rules here as far as being a paying member to post in the classifieds here.

my two pennies.

[Hylton]

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I am protesting the new rule! Just what does it hope to achieve anyways? Who got hurt by the way things were done before? Yeah, I know I can pay the 25.00 and become a member again,like I have done many years before,but shouldn't we be trying to attract new members? I wasn't aware of a problem w/ the adds and if anyone thinks the new rules will prevent people from being scammed they should wake up.

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I'm not sure if this is irony or hypocracy but why do you expect to post here for free and profit by the sale when the Clary's must pay out of their own pocket to keep this website up and running?

[Hylton]

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Lest you critics forget,I have been a paid member for many years!! I,as well as several others, dont like the attitude of SOME of the people who post here{ members and non-members}. If only I had a dollar for everytime I was at a show and heard how the attitudes of some on this site have rubbed many the wrong way. So,I have an opinion that's different than some here and comments get posted that I should be banned or can I really protest anything because I have not paid $25.00??? This just solidifies my feelings about how the hobby has become to many. I still have yet to hear how anyone was hurt by the old system??? Geez guys,I would not buy anything from a guy w/3 posts,but would not hesitate to do so from the frequent flyers of the site who have established good reputations. If someone does not have the common sense to do make educated purchases then why must the site make up for their bad decisions? I've purchased/bought many things from members of this site with zero problems.

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Nobody is saying you can't post ads here. We thought (as a group), a limit of 2 free ads was more than fair because it allows non paid members who are in the hobby to still post. As soon as you sell something, delete the ad and feel free to post the next thing.

As for the Team sites (to which I am also a paid member), they do offer free ad posting but it is to a different type of enthusiast. In my experience, guys here tend to not beat you up when making a deal. Deals are straight forward with a very large level of trust built into the deal because we generally care about our reputation in the hobby (small world). That is not always the case on Team Camaro. Isn't the lack of headaches worth the $25 bucks?

[LVCamaro]

The syc must give some advantage/perk to supporting members. Just about the only advantage/perk a forum board can give a supporting member is "privilege". The syc knows what it's worth and using the "for-sale" section of the forum board ought to be a privilege. BTW, I'm aware of at least one musclecar forum site that totally disallows for-sale ads of any kind, for any reason. There's a reason the for-sale section is at the bottom of the page. This site is not about attracting the chronic and professional car/parts sellers.

There was earlier mention about limited traffic on this forum site. Members here have many choices when choosing a venue to advertise their car/parts for-sale. This site has over 5,000 members and at least that many lurkers. I'm a "team" forum member too and I mean no disrespect, but if you have a rare car/part...this forum is one of the best web sites to make the sale.

Obviously, everyone knows this site is owned by the Clarys, but most aren't aware that this site is administered by a committee of 10 people. I know for a fact that this new for-sale policy was vetted for several weeks before being made policy. This site was born early in 2000 as a place for us gearheads to hang, discuss, commemorate and organize the spotlight for these old Chevy cars. The for-sale section came later in the game as a venue for loyal and supporting members. Folks that advertise here know that the conversion rate in our for-sale section is phenomenal and they also know it's both a sensible and cheap way to flip their wares. Tom has come out of pocket 6 out of the 9 years that he's operated this forum site, so it ain't about the money.

Thanks sYc !

SS

[olredalert]

------Rob,,,It would seem that your situation would be a little bit apart from the expressed reasons for this rule being implemented, but surely you can see that they shouldnt make up a new rule just for you (a poster who used to be a member and has 400 or so posts).
------As well, I would think I probably go to as many cruises and shows as you and God knows I talk to a lot of people. Never once have I encountered anyone who expressed the thought that the guys on this sight have an attitude,,,never! If anything the guys I talk to lean towards the idea that this sight and its members are beneficial to the integrity of the hobby. Do I agree with every thought put out here??? NO, I sometimes disagree with a viewpoint, but it would never occur to me that the viewpoint is elitist, which it seems is what it appears you are implying........Bill S

[PeteLeathersac]

Is the problem over the recent policy or the $25?.

If the policy, why not toss the $25 into the hat, get your ads flying again...then as an active member address any concerns?.

As far as anyone who's upset at this site or members, personally I always attribute much to the fact that the truth often pisses people off and many seem to choose blaming those who point it out rather than facing their realities?.

I've always enjoyed your input and sharing the LM1 story w/ us and letting the $25 or displeasure w/ the new rules making you jump ship from the site would be a shame!.

Best to you in the sale of your car!.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
~ Pete

[SuperNovaSS]

I thought a LM1 was a 327 4bbl. Didn't you say in an earlier ad that this car was a 307?



Jason

[GenOne]

The LM1 is a 350 4 barrel 255hp early 69 engine 10k produced -

Jeff

[SuperNovaSS]

That's right. Brain fart. I think this car was advertised as a 307. Am I mistaken?


Jason

[k92]

I just renewed my membership.I forgot to renew it as I have have been really busy since moving and not been on the computer much.I did not intentionally violate the rules,I had not read the updated rules for posting adds,totally my fault! I would not have posted more than 2 adds if I had known it was a no-no.I am listing the car for a friend and am gaining NOTHING from it. Notwithstanding that,I still do not agree with the change in rules,but will abide by them.I don't like the fact that when I aired my opinion about it I got lambasted,one wanted me banned? Come on guys,people should be allowed to voice their concerns,if you don't agree that's fine but don't go overboard and get personal.A member brought up what I do for a living which is really low.I tried to log in last night but it said that I was locked out?I hope that was an accident and not censorship.As far as a lot of people steering away from the site because of poor attitudes, I've heard it too many times.I wish it were not the case.I have always told those people that this is a good site and to not mind the few snobs that come here.

[k92]

The car is a 350/350 with 3.07 non posi rear.

[John]

welcome back....and good luck on the sale of the car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

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I don't like the fact that when I aired my opinion about it I got lambasted,one wanted me banned? Come on guys,people should be allowed to voice their concerns,if you don't agree that's fine but don't go overboard and get personal.

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If your being banned statement was based on my statement of "GONG'm" that wasn't the intention...the "gong" was directed at your protesting to the rules...I don't think you've earned the right of being banned.

[Hylton]

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I just renewed my membership.

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That's the spirit! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

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I thought a LM1 was a 327 4bbl. Didn't you say in an earlier ad that this car was a 307?



Jason

[/ QUOTE ]I don't think you could get a 1969 camaro with a 327-4 barrel. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif