Anyone consider giving me your thoughts on this?

[TwoBryans]

Supposedly a 1971 Challenger R/T SE 340 factory auto, a/c car. I realize it is a real project, but a guy is looking to use it as a partial trade on one of my cars and I really don't know enough about these(especially in this condition) to come up with a fair value on it. I do not have interest in it in its present condition and will simply be looking to break even on moving it to someone that would be interested in it. Here is what the current owner had to tell me about it:

I have attached some photos of my Challenger. It is a true 340 RT car, but I do not have the data tag. Guy I got it from is still looking. Says he will find it but who knows. I only have a small block 727 trans for it, no motor, unless you want a 440 block and heads I have. This car is one of 1033 +/- 340 RTs. It has ac, power disc brakes, rear defrost and the SE trim. It does need rear quarters, inner and outter rear wheel wells (now repoped.). Overall it is solid, but need complete restoration. Grill is good, tail lights are good. Needs hood.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo167/hummers1/71340Challenger1.jpg

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Any help that anyone is willing to provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

To the best of my knowledge, the SE package was a 1970-only item on the Challenger.

[TwoBryans]

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To the best of my knowledge, the SE package was a 1970-only item on the Challenger.

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Bill,

Thanks for the reply. A friend of mine has a 48k original mile Plum Crazy Purple 71 R/T SE Hemi 4spd car that he bought from the original owner in 1973. I have known him for many years and to the best of my knowledge it is an authentic SE car(he assures me it is), but Mopars are certainly not my area of expertise and I have only owned a few.

Thanks,
Bryan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

Bryan,

I owned a 70 Hemi Challenger for 15 years, and thought I knew a bit about the Mopar E-bodies, but perhaps I don't know as much as I might like to think that I do http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I would certainly defer to someone more knowledgeable http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[TwoBryans]

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Bryan,

I owned a 70 Hemi Challenger for 15 years, and thought I knew a bit about the Mopar E-bodies, but perhaps I don't know as much as I might like to think that I do http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I would certainly defer to someone more knowledgeable http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

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Bill,

I sure don't either. That is why I defer to you guys here. You guys are the sharpest tacks in the shed IMHO. The cream of the crop. I have learned alot here and hope to learn much more over the years to come! Thank you very much for taking the time to read this and reply!

Bryan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[njsteve]

In 71 there was no longer an SE package available on the Challengers but they offered the small rear window as the "Formal Roof" option.

How much are you crediting him toward your car?

The 340/275 hp small block was a no-cost option instead of the base-engine 383/300 hp big block in the 71 E-body line up.

Realisticly that car would take about $80,000 to restore to a level where it was worth about $45,000. It does not have its original drivetrain, no fender tag, interior is shot, wrong steering wheel, and the body needs some very expensive panels.

I would pass on it.

[67rscoupe]

that can be a nice car after its fixed up.

[TwoBryans]

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In 71 there was no longer an SE package available on the Challengers but they offered the small rear window as the "Formal Roof" option.

How much are you crediting him toward your car?

The 340/275 hp small block was a no-cost option instead of the base-engine 383/300 hp big block in the 71 E-body line up.

Realisticly that car would take about $80,000 to restore to a level where it was worth about $45,000. It does not have its original drivetrain, no fender tag, interior is shot, wrong steering wheel, and the body needs some very expensive panels.

I would pass on it.

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Steve,

Just want to be sure I understand. The rear window is the same for the 1970 SE option and the 1971 Formal Roof option? Do both offer the overhead console? I don't know about this car, but my friends 71 Hemi does have the overhead console.

I had not given him any sort of figure as to what I was willing to put into it until I had some time to research it, but he thinks the car is worth $6,500.

Thanks to all for your input so far. Any other input would also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Bryan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif

[njsteve]

Yes, it is the same roof. It is actually a fiberglass insert that fits in the standard rear window opening and houses the smaller rear window. A vinyl top was required to cover the seams. The ceiling console was part of the package.

$6500 isn't a bad value figure, but if you're just getting to flip it, I wouldn't go through the hassle. You really need a broadcast sheet -there should be at least one or two in the seats. Uusually they were in the springs of the rear upper cushion but I have found them in both the upper and lower cushions of the front seats and even above the cardboard glove compartment box.

The missing fender tag is a real deal breaker for me. Yes, they reproduce them (not the correct stamping though), but without a broadcast sheet to corroborate the info, you are really just guessing as to the original options.

[442w30]

Steve is correct on this. There was no SE of any sort in 1971, but there was a formal roof package. I believe it possibly may have said "Special Edition" on the doorpanels, but it wasn't a model like it was in 1970. So without the data plate or the build sheet, there's no saying whether it came with the option originally or not. I do know that it's really rare for 1971 (especially in comparison to 1970).

(Steve, that was a nice show in Westport last weekend, no?)

[TwoBryans]

Bill,

For being the first to point it out, you are the man!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Steve,

For all the help and details, you are awesome and I thank you very much! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Diego,

For your confirmation, Much Thanks! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

This I why I love looking at this site(usually a lurker and don't post much). Most are very helpful to those of us with less experience in specific vehicles. Thanks again for everyones assistance, even those that at least took their time to look at the thread even if they did not have the expertise to respond. My hat off to you all! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif