67 Z28 project

[Charley Lillard]

Mark Sheppard turned me onto this 67 RS Z28 a couple weeks ago. It has been apart since about 76. Orig owner is still around. Sold new in Fresno Ca and was there till Sunday when I drug it home. I'm the 3rd owner. Cool options are shoulder harness seatbelts, fold down deluxe interior, headrest seats, wood wheel, console guages, cowl plenum air cleaner. Has all 5 DF wheels with rings and caps. Now if you all think back to when I sold the hipo 5 blade fan for big bucks and later on the high buck fan clutch....I am missing them for this car...ARRGH !!!! It figures. I will now probably have to pay more than what I sold them for. The car dropped a valve under warranty and got a CE block and one head replaced under warranty.

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[Charley Lillard]

spare tire cleaned up nice. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359956-tn_004.JPG

[kwhizz]

Spoiled "Brat"..................

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[Charley Lillard]

carpet tag http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359959-tn_002.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

tag stuck to underlayment http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359962-tn_007.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

Shoulder harness seatbelt http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359963-tn_012.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

label on backside of shoulder belt buckle http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359964-tn_014.JPG

[Xplantdad]

Very cool Charley!!!

Spoiled brat...LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Charley Lillard]

floors are nice. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359966-tn_021.JPG

[VintageMusclecar]

Wow...just...wow. That is an amazing find. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Too bad re: the fan & fan clutch, but at least you have the right carb.

Eric

[Charley Lillard]

tunnel isn't even cut up. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359970-tn_022.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

This is the second 67 Z I have owned that had the 5K redline tach. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359971-tn_024.JPG

[MosportGreen66]

awesome find guys! Charley, what are the plans for it?

[Jonesy]

I just recently sold my car with about the same options and my car was about 340 cars afyter this one. Same thing, not touched since 1976, Nantucket Blue with headrest, wood wheel, console, RS, shoulder belts. My body number was quite a bit higher LOS 34957. 3911 carb. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359976-3911Holley19.JPG

[VintageMusclecar]

That sure does look familiar. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Eric

[Charley Lillard]

I have some ideas... The trolley car in the pics was the last one to run in Fresno I'm told. It just sits now. Thanks Mark B for selling me the car.

[Jonesy]

[ QUOTE ]
This is the second 67 Z I have owned that had the 5K redline tach. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359971-tn_024.JPG

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Mine had a 6000 redline. Nice car to start with. Looks like a decent body. Mine was the same except vinyl top rust.

[budnate]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif...send me the seats. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

[ QUOTE ]
This is the second 67 Z I have owned that had the 5K redline tach. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/359971-tn_024.JPG

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Have you posted this over on camaros.net? If so, I can just imagine a few know-it-alls will be having a field day with the tach http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Great score, Charley http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[firstgenaddict]

Awesome Find Charlie... the car is SOLID WOW!

[njsteve]

What color is it? Red? Neat find. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Mr70]

Looks like Bolero Red w/black V-Top originally,not to mention a riveted grille. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Giggling about the fan & clutch.

[Rixls6]

What an awesome find. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Having all the original tags and stickers is definitely icing on the cake. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Great pics showing the details as found.

[Kim_Howie]

Nice car Chas. red & black top ,head rest seats cool. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[m22mike]

Wow !!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

Holy crap that is cool, thanks for posting all the those close in shots, great reference stuff.

Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[SIR-VIVOR]

Now I hate my car Charley! I'll take the spare tire. Congrats!

[Hylton]

Nice find. Body condition is amazing! Congrats!

[Dog427435]

Nice find Charley! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif



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[John Brown]

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I think it's going to be Charleys next project, after the 67 Z! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[gab02]

Charley can I have it!!! Nice find.

[92646]

This is the second project R/S Z/28 that my buddy has sold. I sold him a gold 67 R/S Z/28 years ago that I needed to sell to buy our house by the beach. That car ended up in Hawaii. His brother knew about this car since we were in high school in the late 70s and Mark said he would never sell it. It was not an easy decision but he knew that he could not put this car together the way it deserved. After the El Camino fiasco I am so thankful that Charley bought this car because I know it will get put together the right way.
Mark Sheppard

[92646]

A couple of other neat things about this car. It has power steering and a rear mounted antenna. Did you notice how clean the cut is around the shifter hole in the tunnel and I belive it still has the original muffler with the original tail pipes. This is going to be so neat sitting next to the pace car when it is done.
Mark Sheppard

[Charley Lillard]

That is a trolley car sitting in Fresno that was the last running one in Fresno. It has been sitting for awhile.

[shor]

Wow!!
Very http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

A really great find, thanks for posting all those detail shots. Good luck with the resto.

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[mockingbird812]

Congrats Charley. Wonderful condition and patina http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif . Keep us posted on her progress! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[ORIGLS6]

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Now I hate my car Charley!

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Now I hate Charley! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif Clill!

[firez]

Great looking car and thanks for the many detailed pictures.

[92646]

One last thing and I will shut up for awhile. The idea of Charley documenting the build of this Z/28 and Bill Rose documenting the L/78 el camino build is like I died and went to heaven. These are 2 cars from my past that I have the strongest memories of. The CE motor that Charley received with this Camaro was rebuilt by Joe Bogsian many years ago. Joe had a long history with Ford building 4-cam indy motors. I am certain that Charley will be pleasantly suprised with that motor.
Mark Sheppard

[L72COPO]

Charlie welcome back to the Z world. I've got a contact to restore the cowl plenum A/C. Dropped valve and CE block sounds familiar.

[CC Rider]

Great find! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[scuncio]

Nice find Charley!

[enio45]

Hey Tony - don't you have a fan for sale for Charlie http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Nice find Charlie - congrats on the car!

[bergy]

I'll add my WOW! What an unbelievable car! Bruce

[Zedder]

This will be a gorgeous car when done!

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/360164-tn_019.JPG

[JChlupsa]

WOW Charley, I have been looking over the pictures and have to say congrats and I know it found a good home. Hope to see the finished product with its done. theres a twin to this one here as well in the middloe of a restoration.

again congrats to the new ride

[L78M22Rag]

I sure like the patina... a large part of the car could even be left in survivor condition! Very nice score!

[L34Pace]

Great Car Charlie.

[pSYCo]

....i have a RED fiberglass flex fan.....you COULD ''day 2'' the car !!!!

[Charley Lillard]

That red fan would go perfect with a experimental aluminum smallblock that I have.

[pSYCo]

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That red fan would go perfect with a experimental aluminum smallblock that I have.

[/ QUOTE ]...i'll bring it to CHEVYvetteFEST http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Tenney]

Very cool car and a great find, congrats - could always go 250 six clone ...!

Charlie awsome car!! My brother has a twin to it, RS Red,cowl plenum, , shoulder belts, has deluxe with folddown also. Can't wait to see pics of yours done, Maybe this will motivate him a little!!

[firstgenaddict]

Awesome... I love the vintage pic... that will be a hell of a project... and because it is so original it is like a forensic investigation...

[resto4u]

Charley, very cool. Your car was built same week as mine, but 224 cars b-4 mine. Roger

[Charley Lillard]

Jim Pearse wanted a little more Cowl plenum torture. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/360822-tn_001.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[mockingbird812]

Very Nice Charley. Keep them pix coming! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[TXZS]

Charley, based on your pictures, it would appear that the "302" sticker might be correct on a 1967/1968 cowl plenum air cleaner lid. Contrary to what I had always thought. It sure looks like that sticker has been on your a/c lid a long time! What are your thoughts? Tex

[L34Pace]

Charley, could you get a photo of the CE assembly code that should be stamped on the starter flange. I've got a small data base of CE blocks started. I have one very close to this that was said to be in another 67Z.

[iluv69s]

First thing...L34pace...my JL-8 car has a CE block if you want the numbers from it...dont know if you are looking for 69 info also...
Second thing...CONGRATS Charley on an awesome car....Im sure it will be even more awesome when it is done...
Third thing...I was talking to my little bro about this car and asked why I have 3 67 Z-s and not one has the original motor , trans, or rear, and yours has the trans and rear still intact. I dont know if its true, but his response was that the west coast guys must drive like pu***s....and us East Coast guys know what these cars were meant for...hehehe...just kiddin out there ok... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

but seriously.....Awesome car with most of the original drivetrain and parts!!!!!!!!!! Congrats again!!!!
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[L34Pace]

It will be interesting to see if the block in this car is a tonowanda assembled piece. If it has an assembly code stamped at the started flange we should be able to confirm. According to the CE sequence structure of Charley's block this should be a Tonowanda assembly. I was scratching my head when I ran across the other 67Z CE assembly with Tonowanda sequence structure. (attached photo in my last post) I've yet to run into a small block CE warranty piece in a camaro that has other than Flint data untill these two 67 Z's turned up. I have 68 and 69 Z's with confirmed Flint CE assemblies. The next question would be why the 67 Z's at Tonowanda for warranty work?

[Charley Lillard]

Nothing on the starter flange except a "E"

[kwhizz]

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Nothing on the starter flange except a "E"

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Looked in the Dictionary for Info........Here's what I found.......

A=Avanti
B=Biscayne
C=Chevrolet
D=Dodge
E= "Spoiled Brat".........LOL

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[mockingbird812]

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[Xplantdad]

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I totally agree! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Eddie M.]

thats a cool find Charley
you should have called me I would have helped you load it up I'm just 45 mins from there and that would have been neat to see. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Charley Lillard]

I have a dilemma on what engine to put in the car. Sitting here is a nice experimental aluminum small block that would be perfect in the Z. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361038-tn_001.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361039-tn_003.JPG block looks like a bowtie block but has no dates, a normal size oil filter instead of a small diameter, engineering measurement marks all over it.

[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361043-tn_006.JPG heads also have no dates on them.

[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361048-tn_013.JPG 0- intake has a 12-9-65 date. GM experimental stuff had 0 part #'s.

[RamAirDave]

Since the original engine is gone the CE would be okay, but since you have an experimental AL laying around (don't we all? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif ), I would go with that one.

[92646]

Charley what is the story on the aluminum motor? It looks like it has bolt holes on the ends of heads for the later style alt. brackets. How about running this with a very early cross ram and a cross ram cowl plenum air cleaner set up? I do not see how this could be any tricker. It would be like the semi hemi yellow 69 Z/28.
Mark Sheppard

[firstgenaddict]

Is the AL X-motor a 302?
What did the AL blocks in the Grand Sports look like?

[Charley Lillard]

Aluminum parts were acquired by someone in about 72. Maybe they fell off a truck ? I was told Jack Podell also had a set of aluminum heads like these that he used to have for sale. They also had the bolt holes but were from the 60's. Mark..Would you now hook me up with a early crossram and early crossram cowl plenum ? It is starting to sound like my old 67 RS Z with the Xram.

[rpoz11]

Damn Charley!!!!

I can find stuff, but YOU...

You can really find things I havent seen before!!!!

Would LUV a nice detailed write up of that motor!!!

No 0-code for that block.

Is it dated????

Any similarities to the 0-code Can-Am blocks, etc that were prototyped???

That's a first for me on a SBC Intake with this coding!

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[Charley Lillard]

No dates on the block, just the 366298 #. The block was virtually a raw casting with only pan rails machined. Apparently when a block is machined they start by doing the pan rails and reference everything else from there. The block has traveled all over the country having stuff done to it. It is a very rare Dude.

[rpoz11]

Anything similar to the ZL1???

I recall the Delta Bolts on the main caps on mine when I had it.

Any external blockside stampings that distinguish this relative to any GM aluminum motor you been exposed to???

[Charley Lillard]

It looks like a GM bowtie block and has a bowtie but they use a small diameter truck type oil filter. This is cast for a full size one.

[Mr70]

Seeing as it's original block is long gone,I would opt the experimental SB alloy & use that cowl plenum AC.That would be killer!

[scuncio]

I overheard a guy at work (I work for GM) talking about aluminum SBC blocks that were cast in the late 60s for the Chaparral cars. In fact he built a gorgeous replica with one of these GM aluminum SBCs, I think a 331 or 377 or some other high winding deal. Will see if I can get any more info out of him.

[budnate]

Charley it would be pretty cool if you ran the alum motor on a dyno with the correct '67 single intake and carb and played with it on the dyno and see what you get out of it tuneing.

then do the same with the CE motor you have with correct iron heads singe intake and carb and see which motor pulls the best...that would make for a neat story and probably get picked up by one of the magazines.

oh and lots of vids in the dyno room http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif.

now get back to work slacker. & run a single carb on the car, everyone has a cross ram these days..whoopeee.

ps, the seats have not arrived..what gives??

B.

[Charley Lillard]

Everyone has a crossram but not a cowl plenum crossram.

[budnate]

ok..send the 610 with the seats also http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[92646]

Charley, it is odd but I came accross 3 crossrams with no part numbers that I was told were for 67 Z/28 when I was looking for a 69 Z/28. I have only seen crossram cowl plenum air cleaners in pictures. I understood most of them were modified for mor airflow because they were designed for a restrictive air cleaner. Were the original ones made out of plastic or steel?
Mark Sheppard

[Charley Lillard]

Orig ones were plastic with a steel lid. Early ones had a short very restrictive Purolator filter. Later ones had a taller filter and plastic housing. I had a later one on a red 67 RS Z but don't have much in the way of pics and the guy won't sell me the car back.

[Mr70]

... and the guy won't sell me the car back.
The fan,the clutch,now the car you wish you had back.
Stop selling everything you never wanted to in the first place. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Charley Lillard]

Did someone say Can am ? I am looking for a 68 Yenko project to put this in. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361104-tn_001.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361106-tn_002.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361107-tn_003.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361109-tn_004.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361110-tn_006.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361111-tn_007.JPG

[John Brown]

[ QUOTE ]
Did someone say Can am ? I am looking for a 68 Yenko project to put this in.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361114-unknownyenko.jpg

It'll come around sooner or later. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[92646]

With the stock market crashing everybody is buying gold but Charley is buying aluminum.
Mark Sheppard

[ORIGLS6]

Did I mention earlier how much I hate Charley? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Chateau Slate 66]

[ QUOTE ]
Did someone say Can am ? I am looking for a 68 Yenko project to put this in.

[/ QUOTE ]

No luck making a deal with the guy that is importing the 68 Yenko project??

[Charley Lillard]

I haven't heard from him. That Yenko would look perfect sitting next to the 67 Z.

[Denis]

[ QUOTE ]
Orig ones were plastic with a steel lid. Early ones had a short very restrictive Purolator filter. Later ones had a taller filter and plastic housing. I had a later one on a red 67 RS Z but don't have much in the way of pics and the guy won't sell me the car back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Here are some pics of your old car's engine:

http://67z28.net/gallery/albums/67%20Z28%20Photo%20Gallery/Lillard%20Bolero%20Red%20RS/1967Z5.jpg

http://67z28.net/gallery/albums/67%20Z28%20Photo%20Gallery/Lillard%20Bolero%20Red%20RS/headera.jpg

[Charley Lillard]

ahhh, thanks. That was the taller AFP666 element with the taller housing.

[92646]

I was just about to comment that I should look for a fabricated air cleaner like what I have seen in pictures of some of the Penske cars. But after those last pictures you can not beat the factory set up. Talk about the ultimate 67 Z/28 it had heater delete also.
Mark Sheppard

[firez]

Great car you found there. The license plate is close to my 68 Z28s plate from California. Mine is VNK 949

[Mr70]

Whad ya use to clean the spare tire?..Mr.Clean Magic Eraser?

[kwhizz]

"E".......... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[firstgenaddict]

"331 or 377"
I believe a few of the Grand Sports had 377 AL engines with side draft webbers... that would be killer under the hood!!!

The guy with the 68 Yenko said it is on the water and should be here within the month.

[x Baldwin Motion]

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/aluminum_small_block.JPG

photo courtesy of corvettelegends (http://www.corvettelegends.com/grandspr.htm)

[Charley Lillard]

Somewhere recently I saw a post about 67 RS gas caps addressing riveted versus screws. Mine has rivets. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361199-tn_001.JPG

[Jeff H]

Cool car and that aluminum small block would be perfect in that car!

[Charley Lillard]

little details for the guys that like this stuff. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361203-tn_003.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361204-tn_006.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361205-tn_009.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361206-tn_010.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

vin on top of trans http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361207-tn_012.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361208-tn_013.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

trans tag after cleaning http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361209-tn_016.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

bent trans tag on trans http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361210-tn_014.JPG

[Mr70]

I like this stuff.

[iluv69s]

Hey Charlie....I have a set of o-dash alum heads that are dated 63(if I remember correctly)...its been a while since ive actually looked at them...are the outer exhaust port header bolt holes angled at 45 degrees...mine are...I definitely will need custom headers made if I use these heads...Im curious if yours are the same and the dates?? aI have an article from Hot Rod stating they were nascar heads, but Id like to know some more history on my heads...anyone???

BTW I dont like this stuff...I ADORE this stuff ...too cool!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[iluv69s]

Not to hijack this thread a bit, but I thought it would be a good time to throw this out there since the topic is similar....If anyone here can help...Ive been ´dreaming´of putting together one of my 67 Z´s with the NOS MO 302 Smokey motor that I have...I have planned on using the NOS hemi 302 heads that I have with the early 68 dated service JL-8 rear that I have...but the only part I am still missing is the intake base for the Hemi heads...(a real needle in 100 haystacks)....maybe someone out there can help...I have a few rare parts left that I would be willing to trade also....or cash of course...
the other question...Im not sure if to use the last cowl dated 67 Z (white w/standard interior)which is basically no option plus shoulder belts..the motor is dated perfect for the car...I was gonna make it as a Trans Am type car...or use my Red w/black vinyl and deluxe interior well optioned RS Z....I have original radio and heater delete that I planned on using also....I just love that RS look...
But, still searching for that intake base...maybe someone could make me one?? Any ideas...connections??? Thanks Charley..and Yenko.net....

If I get my car together someday Charlie, Ill run you with your experimental alum motor, ok!! Best of luck with it!!!

[Paul_S]

Lets see some pics of those '63 heads. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif I think I have that old issue of Hot Rod also but they don't say very much about them. Do you know what valve size they currently have?

[92646]

It has been about 4 years ago but I remember one of those bases advertised in Hemmings motor news. What is the intake port arrangement? Could something like a smokey ram be modified to fit?
Mark Sheppard

[Charley Lillard]

More little stupid stuff. Bowtie on the aluminum block http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361584-tn_001.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

Deep groove crank pulleys http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361585-tn_006.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

felt vent in tail light http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361586-tn_002.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

part # on tail light and tail light gasket http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361587-tn_009.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

key fob http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361590-tn_014.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361591-tn_015.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

warranty booklet http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361592-tn_040.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

protecto plate http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361593-tn_042.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361594-tn_046.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

tags under front carpet http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361595-tn_016.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

This is a rear antenna car so the hole in the cowl for a front antenna is plugged. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361596-tn_026.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

Backside of plug http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361597-tn_035.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

There has been discussion on if the floor plugs were put in before or after paint. These were in when the car was painted. They look galvanized. The paint on the bottom side flakes off easily so it is easy to see why some thing they weren't painted because it probably came off in the weather very easily. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361599-tn_019.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361601-tn_021.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361603-tn_029.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

flaking off easily http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361605-tn_031.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

Should I use these headers ? http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361606-tn_036.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361607-tn_037.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

almost running....LOL http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361609-tn_038.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

trailer hitch ? http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361610-tn_012.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361611-tn_013.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361612-tn_039.JPG

[JChlupsa]

how bout some close ups of the firewall hole for the cowl plenum air cleaner. inside and out if possible since they were said to be dealer installed and from ones I have seen, they were done differently across the states

[MosportGreen66]

Are those Kustom headers? Nice car...

[Xplantdad]

Gary had a trailer hitch just like that on his 1967 RS/SS Camaro...

Way cool that you are documenting everything! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[92646]

Geez it looks like you are going to have this thing together and running in a few weeks.
Mark Sheppard

[ChevyThunder]

[ QUOTE ]
I had a later one on a red 67 RS Z but don't have much in the way of pics and the guy won't sell me the car back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Next time I am at LB's I will hiest your old 67 Z for you... what do I get when I deliver ? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Great find Charley . That is going to be one sweet car when you are finished. I think you should put the experimental motor in that non spoiler flat hood 69 RS Z I have http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
trailer hitch ? http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361610-tn_012.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]
trailer hitch ?...

...for pulling your 67L79 Nova http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Chateau Slate 66]

[ QUOTE ]
how bout some close ups of the firewall hole for the cowl plenum air cleaner. inside and out if possible since they were said to be dealer installed and from ones I have seen, they were done differently across the states

[/ QUOTE ]

Not trying to hijack, just answering a question.

Here is a picture of my cowl hole. Not cut out very pretty. I am not sure exactly where the car was bought, but it spent the majority of its life in MN.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/ajmartinson/1967%20Camaro%20Z28%20RS/cowlhole.jpg

[firstgenaddict]

Gotta love the "optional Hole sawn cowl plenum" Nothin like using the right tool for the job!

[6t7 camaro]

Charlie a '68 Yenko Camaro project is currently on ebay. You could have a home for both motors.

[Charley Lillard]

Yes I was told about that car by another member last weekend. I was told it was for sale for 125K. Spoke to the owner last night and was quoted 210K. It is missing the vin tag in the dash because it was stolen when it was about a year old. It has a Tenn state assigned vin with the same vin on a tag next to the Yenko tag. Also has a 160 speedo not the Yenko 9737 140 unit. Nice project but.....

[Charley Lillard]

This cowl plenum hole was cut out very nicely. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361732-tn_001.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

backside http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361733-tn_003.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

cowl panel held in with cad plated screw. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361734-tn_004.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

exhaust details that look orig to me but maybe a 67Z expert can confirm. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361858-tn_001.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

Looks like sealant was used in the upper pipe joint. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361859-tn_002.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

passenger side tailpipe is welded. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361860-tn_003.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361861-tn_004.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361862-tn_005.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361863-tn_006.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361864-tn_007.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361866-tn_011.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

plugs http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361867-tn_012.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

traction bar bracket with grade 8 bolts http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361870-tn_010.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361871-tn_008.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

, http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361872-tn_009.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

posi tag and plug http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361873-tn_013.JPG

[firez]

My 68 Z from California had all the same exhaust clamps and hangers,I wondered if they were correct.Thanks for taking time and posting the pics. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[firstgenaddict]

I think the one with the sealer has been changed as it is not a guillotine type like the others.

[Seattle Sam]

[ QUOTE ]
trailer hitch ? http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361610-tn_012.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like the U-Haul hitch that was on our '67 RS-SS350.

[Charley Lillard]

It left like a thief in the night last night, headed for Performance Restorations in Illinois. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/362778-tn_001.JPG

[92646]

I had a 70-1/2 R/S Z/28 that I used for towing. It had a weld in frame hitch and 4:10 gears. I drove it on a 600 mile round trip to Los Angeles one week end to pick up an Austin mini cooper. It pulled would pull a trailer real well but I had to stop at every Union 76 gas station I saw along the way.
Mark Sheppard

[Mike]

What is this switch?? My 71 Lt-1 Corvette has something similar....just never knew what it did?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Lt1Mike/361208-tn_013-1.jpg

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
I drove it on a 600 mile round trip to Los Angeles one week end to pick up an Austin mini cooper. Mark Sheppard

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey...I knew that LA was quite a ways from "the OC"...I just never realized it was that far! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Xplantdad]

Good to hear Charley...keep us updated on a regular basis...please! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[92646]

No this was when I lived up in Fresno by this 67 Z/28. When I moved down to Long Beach I brought the 70 Z/28 with me. All I could afford was to live in an apartment complex where about 2 cars were being stolen a week. I did not want the car to get stolen and parted out so I sold it instead. Sure enough in the next months Hemmings the 70 Z/28 was for sale for twice what I sold it for.
Mark Sheppard

[Kim_Howie]

Back up sw for rear back up lights.

[iluv69s]

Unfortunately JM has the 63 o-dash experimental aluminum heads at his shop for some repairs...I have tried to get to his place for some other work i need done on some other parts, but he is a very busy man...When i get there i will take some pics and post them,...hopefully next week.......and the hemi x-ram intake has ports more similar to a Ford Boss 302 than anything I have found...I was thinking of trying to have an intake made by cutting the top half of a "production" x-ram base and mating with a custom-made type intake bottom....anyone know a very very good aluminum intake fabricator??? It would have to be a real good custom job. any ideas??? thanks

[John Brown]

[ QUOTE ]
What is this switch?? My 71 Lt-1 Corvette has something similar....just never knew what it did?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Lt1Mike/361208-tn_013-1.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

I think it makes the little white lights in the back of the car light up. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

[ QUOTE ]
It left like a thief in the night last night, headed for Performance Restorations in Illinois. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/362778-tn_001.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]

Gonna be a long and tiring trek with an ATV and a tow strap! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Mike]

Thanks guys! The vette has been a work in progress for a few years and the switch has never been hooked up. Thanks for the info.

[Charley Lillard]

Orig owner stated the cowl plenum air cleaner was in the trunk and the headers were supposed to be but weren't.

[Mr70]

Does that mean the headers were never included with it at all upon delivery,or that they were in a different place other then the trunk?

[Charley Lillard]

Never included but were supposed to be. He put a set of aftermarket headers on.

[cook_dw]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
how bout some close ups of the firewall hole for the cowl plenum air cleaner. inside and out if possible since they were said to be dealer installed and from ones I have seen, they were done differently across the states

[/ QUOTE ]
Not trying to hijack, just answering a question.

Here is a picture of my cowl hole. Not cut out very pretty. I am not sure exactly where the car was bought, but it spent the majority of its life in MN.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/ajmartinson/1967%20Camaro%20Z28%20RS/cowlhole.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]


[ QUOTE ]
This cowl plenum hole was cut out very nicely. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/361732-tn_001.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]



Mine is a Cali 68 RS/Z and you can see it is very similar to Charlie's; cut further down just slightly past the firewall seam to the floor of the cowl area. This car has been down since '79-80 timeframe. Interesting stuff.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1968%20302%20Camaro/DSC01313.jpg


Nice find by the way. Later, Darrell

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/417439-tn_6252009065.jpg

[Charley Lillard]

.. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/417440-tn_6252009069.jpg

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/417441-tn_6252009070.jpg

[Charley Lillard]

. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/417442-tn_P8040029-1.JPG

[ChevyThunder]

Lookin good Charley

[jannes_z-28]

Looks great,



Jan

[YenkoYS-199Stinger]

I was just thinking about this car last week.

Glad to see the progress. It looks great!!!
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[JAD]

I like that car a lot!!!!!!!!!!

[VintageMusclecar]

Charley;

Have you decided which engine is going in the car?

[Charley Lillard]

Experimental engine...

[92646]

Sweet.

[ORIGLS6]

[ QUOTE ]
. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/417442-tn_P8040029-1.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm guessin' you didn't have Howie mix the paint.

[Nova Jed]

Hubba Hubba.

[Schonyenko2]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/417442-tn_P8040029-1.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm guessin' you didn't have Howie mix the paint.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's cold. True, but cold. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[300deluxeL79]

sweet! keep the assy pictures comin! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[66 L78 ragtop]

[ QUOTE ]
I like that car a lot!!!!!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]


Uh Oh, we all know what this means...
Charlie better enjoy that car while he can!!

[musclecarjohn]

[ QUOTE ]


Way cool that you are documenting everything! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

And you'd expect anything less from Charlie...? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Great find Charlie,can't wait to see this one come together. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif

[69RSZ]

[ QUOTE ]
. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/417442-tn_P8040029-1.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]
Hi Charley,Our cars are allmost twins!!I just picked up a red car.I think you know whos it was.Its also a L.A. car.Ron.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l188/Budbrewer1/IMG_0715.jpg

[markjohnson]

I like the hole-saw cut-out for the Cowl Plenum Air Cleaner.

[69RSZ]

supposedly the dealer did that.

[BonzoHansen]

Damn Charley, I just got done drooling on jackass at sema, now I see this, my fav 1st gen the 67Z. Keep up the great pics, esp the cowl plenum stuff!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif <-- ha ha

[Zedder]

It looks like Rich McCabe's car found a new home...Congrats Ron!

[firstgenaddict]

[ QUOTE ]
That is a trolley car sitting in Fresno that was the last running one in Fresno. It has been sitting for awhile.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heaven forbid a power company own the mode of transport... Yep... in the 50's everyone hated RR tracks in the streets and GMC needed to sell some buses!

[Charley Lillard]

It is finally home.. If you look back at the beginning of this thread you can see where we started. Thanks to Performance Restorations in Mundelien Il for a job well done. Also thanks to Eric at Vintage Musclecar parts for the great job on the carb.Thanks also to Mark Webster at Performance Restos for babysitting the project. I forgot just how many options came on this car.
RS Z28
power steering
deluxe interior
wood wheel
guages
fold down rear seat
headrest seats
shoulder harness seat belts
rear antenna
rear speaker
lighting group
cowl plenum air cleaner
The blue Z28 personalized plates I have been saving for years to put on the right car. That is the only set of those plates ever assigned in Ca.
I went with the experimental aluminum engine and I'm glad I did.The paint and panel fit turned out killer. One of those cars you just enjoy looking at. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25374&filename= 020.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25375&filename= 023.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25376&filename= 021.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25377&filename= 024.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25378&filename= 048.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25379&filename= 049.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25380&filename= 019.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25381&filename= 030.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

...... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25382&filename= 027.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25383&filename= 014.JPG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25384&filename= 065.JPG

[Fast67VelleN2O]

So how does that aluminum engine run? I would love to see that one in action! Killer car and great resto!

[William]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So how does that aluminum engine run? I would love to see that one in action! Killer car and great resto! </div></div>

Sound clip?

[Xplantdad]

Looks great in person!

[mockingbird812]

This beauty hung out with us at the Desert Classic display and it just pops with detail and freshness. Nice Z Charlie! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[Denis]

I can already see a few things that aren't quite right... primarily that it's your car and not mine. Otherwise, looks quite respectable. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

Nice work. Great to see another one resuscitated.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

That is one awesome car Charley...one of my favorites of the show....seems like you had one of my favs last year too....a copper colored Z28 as my memory serves <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[VintageMusclecar]

Charley;

Thank you for letting me be a part of the build. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Eric

[69RSZ]

Looks very nice charley, are you comeing to maryland next year with it to the camaro nats? maybe see you there.Ron.

[markinnaples]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[jbsides]

Can I have it?

[92646]

I am so glad Charley got this car and restored to perfection. Nobody else had the vision to put it together this well. Charley has invited me up north to see the car in person someday and I will do everything I can to bring with me the brothers that owned the car before him. That car would still be sitting in a bunch of boxes today if Charley did not step up.
Mark Sheppard

[Charley Lillard]

Video of it at idle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkGZemaMQTk

[Tenney]

Sounds the bidness ... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[m22mike]

Show Off.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Glad I saw this car @ the MCACN show....World Class resto.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[VintageMusclecar]

Thumps pretty good. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[RPOLS3]

Darn that sounds great Charley.

Thanks for sharing - I enjoyed seeing all of your cars at MCACN again this year.

How about the same video of the ZL-1? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

Jake

[ORIGLS6]

You had me for a second there in the video. I thought I saw some rubber on the rear quarters. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif


Then I realized it was just a reflection of the floor. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif

Sounds good though. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORIGLS6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You had me for a second there in the video. I thought I saw some rubber on the rear quarters. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif


Then I realized it was just a reflection of the floor. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif

Sounds good though. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>


Yup, got me too (just for a split second) Nice job, sounds great!

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Z1ObgEKKg