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bergy
10-02-2008, 02:45 AM
Well - I've started a thread to follow the restoration process on my latest project. The prior history of this car is on this site under "copo on ebay". As I was disassembling the car today I ran into a couple of things that I haven't seen before. Maybe someone out there could give me some insight. First, the interior heater box has an orange "30" marked on it - any significance? Second - when I removed the funky old brown plush carpet (very 60s) from the package tray cover, I found that the original package tray cover (still under the funky piece of carpet) has factory speaker holes in it. I've attached photos. Does this just look like AM rear speakers, AM/FM, or can't tell for sure? The car did have aftermarket Jensen speaker covers attached to the funky brown carpet - no sign of any speakers though. If anyone has any input, please feel free to post. Thanks, bruce

bergy
10-02-2008, 02:46 AM
see attached

bergy
10-02-2008, 02:48 AM
I'm attaching photos, but they're not coming through - need a little tech assistance!

mockingbird812
10-02-2008, 03:27 AM
They are there in your Attachment Bruce!

m22mike
10-02-2008, 03:48 AM
Just a thought on the red 30, maybe a build sequence # for that car that day http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Also, when you get the front fender extensions off, look for something like this under the crud, that's if they are the originals.

04C car

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/copo060.jpg

Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

bergy
10-02-2008, 06:55 AM
OK - now that I know that the attachments are working....here's the package tray.

bergy
10-02-2008, 05:02 PM
I removed the fenders and there was no marking inside of the fender extension. They look original, but no marking. This is an 05E car - maybe they didn't mark them all? I've attached a photo of the original firewall piercings showing RS hole. I would say that the car came with two rear speakers. I've had several '69 Camaros, but never anything but an AM radio with front speaker only. Does anyone know if an AM radio could be ordered with dual rea speakers, or would duals be for a stereo application? Also, the "30" on the heater box does tie out to the last 2 of the VIN. Could be coincidence, but somehow they had to flag the BB heater core on the X-11 code car. Regards, Bruce

bergy
10-02-2008, 05:08 PM
OK - the car is pretty well disassembled. I took tons of photos if anyone needs any particular ones let me know. Some neat pics of the routing of the liquid tire chain hoses, etc. I've rolled the car into a corner of the garage - now the hunt for parts begins! I've gotten some great leads on the original drive train components - please keep your ears to the ground and pass on any info that you run into. I'm a collector and have only sold one of my collector cars in the past 25 years - so I'm not looking to make a quick buck on this car. I love these supercars and I enjoy restoring them to their former glory! Regards, Bruce

COPO_Anders
10-02-2008, 06:13 PM
Bruce, I bought my car ten years ago and I still haven`t started restoring it. You got yours only weeks ago and is already on it.
It will be interesting to read about your restoration. Keep us posted !

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BruceRocks.gif

I love these supercars to !
Regards

scuncio
10-02-2008, 09:23 PM
I parted out a 69 years ago and it had the dual rear speaker package tray and AM/FM stereo. I have never seen an AM with dual rear speakers (unless it was also ordered with an 8-track, in which case it would also have the two kick panel speakers in front).

Again, great car!

BARRY
10-03-2008, 01:54 AM
HI my copo had the same markings on the lower fender june car

m22mike
10-03-2008, 04:32 AM
You got a picture of that ?

Thanks Mike

BARRY
10-03-2008, 05:40 AM
hi no that is 25 years ago

MosportGreen66
10-03-2008, 06:31 AM
My old '70 Camaro (granted it was a '70) had an AM radio with dual speakers... one in the front dash, other in the package tray.

Kurt S
10-03-2008, 08:17 AM
The only way to get 2 rear speakers was stereo (either FM or 8-track). Does it have kickpanel speakers?

I've seen #'s before on heater boxes. I don't recall if they matched the VIN, but normally the VIN wasn't used in the plant. They tracked components by the rotation #.

firstgenaddict
10-04-2008, 08:20 AM
The black RS/Z had the same number on the top of the heater box and the top of the gas tank... the number 80...

m22mike
10-04-2008, 04:29 PM
I still think those #'s were a sequence #, especially when you find them in multiple locations. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
I have also seen a # on the lower front fender extension's on Camaros.
Just a thought.
Mike

njsteve
10-04-2008, 11:03 PM
Here's the fender extension from my 69 Z11 zone office show car. 02D car with 6104XX VIN. I've always wondered what it meant.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/fenderext.jpg

m22mike
10-05-2008, 05:31 AM
Neat Steve
Is that "R3CA" ? No idea on that one http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Mike

bergy
10-05-2008, 09:34 PM
Original rotors, hubs, and ball joints.

bergy
10-05-2008, 09:35 PM
original Whelen drums.

Mr70
10-06-2008, 05:57 AM
If I recall correctly,Chris Shorts JD/Yenko Chevelle has "427" written in grease pencil on the fiberglass ft. bumper filler on the driver side.

Kurt S
10-06-2008, 10:07 AM
One would think the # was the rotation #, but I've only seen 2-digit numbers on the heater box. Rotation #'s went a lot higher than that.....

m22mike
10-06-2008, 04:20 PM
Good point Kurt. I have also seen the heater box # in red crayon. Might it be a vendor mark http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Mike

firstgenaddict
10-07-2008, 08:41 AM
The red crayon mark was the same on the heater box and the gas tank...

bergy
11-16-2008, 04:14 PM
I received the pics of the car from the original owner. Taken when it had 25 miles on it. Also one taken in summer of 1970 (car got a little racier!). Can one of you gurus help me post them (files too large)? Also got notarized statements from both the original owner and the dealership manager who ordered the car (he only ordered one RS car -Ewing Chevrolet). They both state: RS, 9561, Sportscar package, liquid tire chain, console, gages, M21, X11, Z23, AO1, rear speaker ...

GenOne
11-16-2008, 05:34 PM
Feel free to send them to my email and I'll post them for you -

[email protected]

Jeff

GenOne
11-16-2008, 09:36 PM
Great pics Bruce!

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm397/X66396/VintageRSCOPO1.jpg

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm397/X66396/VintageRSCOPO2.jpg

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm397/X66396/RSCOPOonRoids.jpg

firstgenaddict
11-16-2008, 09:53 PM
Damn that is AWESOME!!! I love the rounded spoke style wheels... are those Ansen's?

iluv69s
11-16-2008, 10:01 PM
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Also one taken in summer of 1970 (car got a little racier!).

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a little bit??? that mailbox on the hood usually was not just for looks!!! I see guages, traction bars, and wide -ass tires!!!

I had an original paint burnished brown RS back in the day,...

(wasnt a COPO :no) I WISH!!!

Good luck with it!!!! AWESOMMEEE!!!!

bergy
11-21-2008, 02:43 AM
I have talked quite a lot with Donn Valdiserri (the original owner of my car) and Bob Shaffer (high performance manager at Ewing Chevrolet from 1968-1972 who placed the order for my car). Bob ordered about 12 1969 COPO Camaros as well as several 427 Chevelle post coupes, and a couple 427 Novas. Bob has an incredible memory (he remembered the original owner of my car immediately). If any of you have Ewing cars - I would be happy to send you Bob's contact info (he gave me permission to post this offer). He actually had a new hugger orange COPO Camaro of his own - maybe someone knows of his old car.

mockingbird812
11-21-2008, 03:39 AM
Bruce,

I just got off the phone with Bob Shaffer. Very nice fellow with lots of information. He confirmed about 12 '69 COPO Camaros including his HO COPO demonstrator. Did he tell you about his 1st drive with that car just after he pulled it off the car hauler? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Anyway, what struck me the most was what he told me about the '69 COPO Chevelles (I asked him 2 different times just to be sure). He only recalls selling 2 Chevelles, one red, one silver?, but he is sure they were both 300 Deluxe POST cars! His mantra was to put only performance options on the car and keep the weight to a minimum and the 300s (with the "built-in roll bar") were just the ticket. I always wondered why I hadn't heard of he 300 DX post cars being ordered via COPO.

Good stuff Bruce - thanks! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Denis
11-21-2008, 05:43 AM
427 novas? from the factory?

Rixls6
11-21-2008, 01:50 PM
300 DLX 427 COPO's !!!! ???

I think I'll have to build a clone of that now.

Chevy454
11-21-2008, 09:03 PM
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Anyway, what struck me the most was what he told me about the '69 COPO Chevelles (I asked him 2 different times just to be sure). He only recalls selling 2 Chevelles, one red, one silver?, but he is sure they were both 300 Deluxe POST cars! His mantra was to put only performance options on the car and keep the weight to a minimum and the 300s (with the "built-in roll bar") were just the ticket. I always wondered why I hadn't heard of he 300 DX post cars being ordered via COPO.

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COPO paperwork specifically stated 9562 as available on 13637 *only*...

mockingbird812
11-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Plot thickens. Tom - what "COPO paperwork" are you referring to? Is this a memo from GM or something between i.e. Yenko and GM? I asked Bob S. how he found out about the COPO process and he being in proximity to Yenko kind of picked it up on the grapevine and asked his regional sales mangager about it who then looked into it which eventually resulted in Ewing dealership's ability to utilize the COPO process for 427s in other than full size Chevys.

Chevy454
11-21-2008, 11:47 PM
This would be the memos (from Chevrolet) to dealers & the parts list for #9562...it only references 13637 models.

mockingbird812
11-22-2008, 12:02 AM
Ok Tom - thanks for the info. I will dig a little deeper with Bob. Mr. Ewing is still around too and the two of them talk. I'll see what I can dig up. I know how time can play tricks with your memory http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif, but Bob seemed pretty sure of himself.

Chevy454
11-22-2008, 12:16 AM
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Ok Tom - thanks for the info.

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No problem, Dave...









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mockingbird812
11-22-2008, 12:47 AM
Um, er, aren't you related to someone named... aw never mind! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif


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Xplantdad
11-22-2008, 01:05 AM
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Um, er, aren't you related to someone named... aw never mind! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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I was wondering who you were talking about, Ron! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

mockingbird812
11-22-2008, 01:12 AM
Hey Bruce - way I see it, I'm doing pretty good - most times I just talk to myself (actually get along ok) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif





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Chevy454
11-22-2008, 01:28 AM
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Xplantdad
11-22-2008, 02:29 AM
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X 2! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

owners2
12-03-2008, 07:45 AM
Cool old pics !!!

bergy
12-04-2008, 12:01 AM
The car is completely stripped down and will go on the rotissory on Friday. All original (tinted) glass came out without a scratch. Floors look good, trunk needs work, quarters wheel arch and lower patch, doors will clean up, fenders both need small patch - overall a lot better then I thought. Even around the trunk seal and at the base of the rear window - very solid, only surface rust. See pics. If anyone wants to see anything else before rotissery - let me know.

bergy
12-04-2008, 12:01 AM
Just surface rust

bergy
12-04-2008, 12:03 AM
Upper corner of trunk lip. Have you seen this stamp marking before? Obviously the hole isn't factory!

Xplantdad
12-04-2008, 12:17 AM
Hey Bruce...check your emails...

bergy
12-04-2008, 12:54 AM
Haven't received any emails - maybe the victim of the spam filter! I don't see them in the spam though. Call me please.

Xplantdad
12-04-2008, 01:04 AM
Hmmm...it's from my home email (Xplantdad) and it was in respose to your email a few days ago. I will resend when I get home http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bergy
12-04-2008, 04:12 PM
This is a long shot, but anyone seen this car (other then 35 years ago)? It may have a part that I want on it!

Salvatore
12-04-2008, 07:57 PM
Is this the old New York street racer car in your picture? Was this an original Harrell car? Paint scheme looks familar. Where is Kim Howie when you need him? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

bergy
12-20-2008, 03:33 AM
Thanks for all of your leads on the race car in the picture. That is actually the car that the original owner put the engine and rear in that came out of my BB car. He raced it (the race car) against Sox & Martin at Indy in 1970. The race car was sold to a guy in Pittsburg and I found this rear there. Looks right to me (a little rough though). Now I have what I believe to be the rear and trans. The motor was bored way over and may be trashed, but I do have one active lead in W VA. Please PM any leads any of you might have.

scuncio
12-20-2008, 03:49 AM
Nice find; you are inspiring the rest of us to search out previous owners! BTW that rear should smooth out nicely after spraying it with Z-Chrome and blocking it down a couple of times.

firstgenaddict
12-21-2008, 04:11 PM
sheet metal plant and week codes... check the CRG site for the reports.

Kurt S
01-08-2009, 09:43 AM
You were able to track down the buyer of the trans? Or did the seller still have it?

69z28302
01-22-2009, 08:14 PM
Nice Find, can you post more pictures of the restoration?

Mike

bergy
01-22-2009, 08:32 PM
I will post mere pics as things progress. The body is on a rotissery right now.

HiHorse
01-25-2009, 06:29 PM
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You were able to track down the buyer of the trans? Or did the seller still have it?

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any update?

bergy
01-25-2009, 07:36 PM
That's a long story! When the whole world knows that you are restoring a valuable car - "original" parts seem to come out of the woodwork! Several people have contacted me about the original trans. I got what I believe to be the original from the same guy that had the rear. I don't believe that it's a restamp. Also,The 660 case die cast date code is perfect for my car. I've attached a photo for all of the gurus.

Kurt S
01-27-2009, 08:12 AM
Looks like the real deal.

Interesting. The trans that was on ebay had your VIN, but a different date code. I never saw a pic of it, but it was 2 years before your car hit the radar....
Weird. Wonder if it was misread of the # or a misstamp.

bergy
01-27-2009, 01:43 PM
Yeah - Steve (the guy who sold me the car) gave me the email address of the guy who said that he had that transmission, but when I emailed him - he wouldn't send me photos of the stamping! I know (now) that at least a few people have known about the car for a long time. It was in storage and the owner wouldn't sell. Steve's a great guy and was a good friend of the owner. He was familiar with the car for about 20 years. He attested to the car having the sportscar package and also said that it had a factory am/fm. The original owner remembers just an am radio (with rear speaker) - so I'm not sure which radio to put in it during resto? Anyway - the poor long time owner is now in a nursing home and his family sold the car to Steve.

Thanks for your input Kurt.

ANDY M
01-27-2009, 11:08 PM
This car's VIN is 691 behind mine, and the BE 0519 stamp is identical to mine. Is this an 05D build? It could have been made the same day as mine. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

bergy
01-27-2009, 11:29 PM
Mine is an 05E build Andy. They were probably made fairly close together. Check your build sequence number - mine is 302060. Yours probably has an earlier build sequence then mine. My understanding is that build sequence numbers were assigned sequentially at the start of the process. The cars did not necessarily get finished sequentially though - some cars would be pulled off of the line if there was a problem or if options weren't available for build completion. I remember working at the St Louis assembly plant and eating lunch every day for two weeks in an L88 Corvette that we built for the export in 1968 - it got pulled off line and just sat waiting for parts. Norwood was probably the same. What is your trans build date (if 4 speed)?

Jerry@CHP
01-28-2009, 07:22 AM
Bruce,

I have compaired this to hundreds that I have in my photo data base. You should call me when you have a minute. I do not like the space in between the 2 and the 5. The B is larger than the other characters and there are issues with the vin stamp. Just giving my best professional advise.

Jerry

bergy
01-28-2009, 05:33 PM
Thanks for your input Jerry. You're a pro at this stuff and you know that I respect your expertise. I'll give you a call. If you actually put a vernier down into the charactors - the letters are all the same. Some are worn and some aren't, some are crooked and some aren't, but the crest of the indentations are nearly identical. I'm sure that the guys who actually made these parts would laugh at the way that we study their products. You know that I worked as a senior engineer and later as a superintendent of production for Chevrolet back in the late 60's and through the 70's. The only requirement for part numbers, vins, and dates was that they would be "permanently" marked. I remember having employees hand stamp parts with any 'ol stamp that was available. Al Grening has some classic examples in his archives. If a charactor fell off of a pattern or out of a gang, we'd just grab a hand stamp out of the inspection office and start whacking parts!

brent396
01-28-2009, 07:15 PM
HEY GUY LOOK AT THIS EBAY AD LOOK AT THE TRANS NUMBER EBAY#260309277501 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

ANDY M
01-28-2009, 08:05 PM
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Mine is an 05E build Andy. They were probably made fairly close together. Check your build sequence number - mine is 302060. Yours probably has an earlier build sequence then mine. My understanding is that build sequence numbers were assigned sequentially at the start of the process. The cars did not necessarily get finished sequentially though - some cars would be pulled off of the line if there was a problem or if options weren't available for build completion. I remember working at the St Louis assembly plant and eating lunch every day for two weeks in an L88 Corvette that we built for the export in 1968 - it got pulled off line and just sat waiting for parts. Norwood was probably the same. What is your trans build date (if 4 speed)?

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Best guess from looking at the old calender is that my car was built on Friday, the 23rd, and yours was built on the following Monday.
http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/index.html?year=1969&country=1
May was a 5 week month in '69, but 05E was only 4 days, with Friday off for the Memorial Day weekend.
BTW, my car has the M40. (Look under the Berger logo). http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Here is the stamp on my rear end:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/ameyers215/BErear.jpg

bergy
01-28-2009, 10:53 PM
Thanks Andy - Brent, quit yelling!

brent396
01-29-2009, 12:35 AM
Sorry i didnt know i was yelling apoligize bergy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

firstgenaddict
02-03-2009, 04:15 AM
I am envious as hell on this one... it is going to be AWESOME

bergy
02-03-2009, 05:18 AM
Thanks James - we'll try to do her justice! Bruce

firstgenaddict
02-03-2009, 05:23 AM
I like it with the Ansens or whatever those Roundspokes are with Wide Ovals... Day II... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

bergy
02-25-2009, 04:10 PM
After media blasting the body, we decided to go with full GM quarters. Piecing in partials was just not going to do the car justice. Attached are pics of the progress.

bergy
02-25-2009, 04:11 PM
pics

bergy
02-25-2009, 04:13 PM
more pics

bergy
02-25-2009, 04:15 PM
more, more pics

bergy
02-25-2009, 04:17 PM
We took a bunch of photos of the body stamps (before and after clean up).

mockingbird812
02-25-2009, 07:29 PM
Looking good bergy. Keep 'em coming! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

scuncio
02-28-2009, 07:36 PM
Looks great!

bergy
03-28-2009, 03:42 PM
Sub frame is almost done - 5 pics attached

bergy
03-28-2009, 03:42 PM
sub frame pic 2

bergy
03-28-2009, 03:43 PM
sub frame pic 3

bergy
03-28-2009, 03:44 PM
sub frame pic 4

bergy
03-28-2009, 03:44 PM
sub frame pic 5

m22mike
03-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Nice.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

GenOne
03-28-2009, 04:52 PM
Nice job Bruce http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
03-28-2009, 05:18 PM
Looking good Bruce! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Salvatore
03-28-2009, 06:30 PM
Keep the pictures coming! Thanks for sharing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

elonblock
03-28-2009, 07:46 PM
Excellent.

It's going to look beautiful when done!

Xplantdad
03-29-2009, 07:21 AM
Very very cool...keep the pics coming!

KevinW
03-29-2009, 05:07 PM
Just noticed this post. Restoration is going great! I pulled my heater box this weekend and the number on the box "24" does not match my VIN "929", but close! I have other loose heater box with "69".

bergy
03-29-2009, 08:22 PM
Thanks Kevin - as you can see in this thread, there was no consensus on the purpose of the numbering system on the heater boxes. Most of the heater boxes have numbers, so it must have served some purpose at the assy plant, but we haven't identified that purpose.

KNAPPY
04-07-2009, 08:30 PM
What paint did you use on the frame? Is it powder coated?

firstgenaddict
04-24-2009, 06:49 AM
I love it!

Fast67VelleN2O
05-04-2009, 12:20 AM
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That's a long story! When the whole world knows that you are restoring a valuable car - "original" parts seem to come out of the woodwork! Several people have contacted me about the original trans. I got what I believe to be the original from the same guy that had the rear. I don't believe that it's a restamp. Also,The 660 case die cast date code is perfect for my car. I've attached a photo for all of the gurus.

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I know this may seem a little late, but I buy and sell a lot of Muncies (about 80 a year) and this 1969 stamp doesn't look like the M21 stamps that I have ever seen. I have to dig up some past photos for comparison but that B definetly looks suspect. And 95% of the Norwood vin stamps I see are gang stamped. I know anything can happen but still.... See attached and make up your own minds....
-Matt
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo175/fast67vellen2o/IMG_5636.jpg
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo175/fast67vellen2o/IMG_3770.jpg

bergy
05-04-2009, 03:57 AM
Thanks Matt - Yeah - It sure isn't a perfect stamp. On the other hand, if someone was restamping a case - it seems like they would make it perfect. I'm sure that there are lots of gang stamp holders out there. I'm certainly no expert, that's why I'm posting everything about this car. I appreciate everyone's input. This reminds me of my original LS6 block that had the vin stamped upside down. People who looked at it told me that it couldn't be original - then we found out that 100s of them were stamped that way!

bergy
11-20-2009, 12:36 AM
body work is complete and painting has begun (finally!).

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/SCAN0233.jpg


http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/SCAN0232.jpg


http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/SCAN0230.jpg

bergy
11-20-2009, 12:38 AM
A couple more pics - note the body stamp with the one "0" higher then the rest of the numbers - common? Both stamps are the same.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/SCAN0229.jpg


http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/SCAN0236.jpg

69Tom
11-20-2009, 04:43 AM
Looking great. I still love the BB!

Xplantdad
11-21-2009, 02:20 AM
I agree...I can't wait to see the finished car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

scuncio
11-21-2009, 08:13 AM
Beautiful car. Kinda wish I still had my Burnished Brown L72 Biscayne....

GenOne
11-21-2009, 08:34 PM
Looking great Bruce - can't wait to see the finished product!

bergy
02-20-2010, 04:48 PM
Took a few pics of the resto today. Lot of work since last update, but somehow it doesn't look like it! The engine is on the dyno and should be ready for install late next week.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/IMG_0055.jpg

Trunk ready for the liquid tire chain!

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/IMG_0057.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/IMG_0062.jpg

mockingbird812
02-20-2010, 06:56 PM
Wow, the BB paint looks G http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gifD Bergy! Keep 'em coming! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

m22mike
02-21-2010, 02:46 AM
Looking good Bruce... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif You wan't to send her back to Canton ? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

bergy
03-18-2010, 02:10 AM
motor set in place today

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/IMG_0086.jpg


http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/IMG_0087.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/IMG_0085.jpg

69Tom
03-18-2010, 03:14 AM
Wow. Fantastic. Can't wait to see the car finished!

Salvatore
03-18-2010, 04:30 AM
Who does your motors Bruce? Sam

bergy
03-18-2010, 05:21 AM
Krimes Automotive up in Ephrata. Ron is an old school BB Chevy racer. I won't be racing this car - but if Ron builds it - it will hunt! Also has a state of the art dyno at his shop. He only took my engine to 6000rpm on test. It registered 457hp - still pulling hard when he shut it down. He got 474hp out of the motor in my green copo, but it was +.030. I've heard of these 427s getting higher hp on dyno, but Ron's machine is new and certified for accuracy.

Xplantdad
03-18-2010, 07:16 AM
Holy cow that looks great! Keep sharing the pics, Bruce #2! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

x Baldwin Motion
03-23-2010, 04:12 AM
the otherhttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BruceRocks.gif toohttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

talwell
03-24-2010, 05:28 AM
Yeah - those 427 big blocks pull really hard. The one in my clone has a very mild cam, stock intake, carb, ignition and still pulled 474hp 497tq at only 10:1 compression. It runs great on pump gas, still idles and snaps your neck back when you stomp on it.

bergy
06-24-2010, 06:47 PM
The car is almost complete. Just finishing up a few interior things and waiting for the pin stripes. A couple of pics below:

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00482.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00481.jpg

mockingbird812
06-24-2010, 07:25 PM
Looking real nice Bruce <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif. Love the RS on a BB colored '69. Now don't go scarin' those Amish horses pullin' the buggies with that nasty rat motor! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Xplantdad
06-24-2010, 07:47 PM
Very cool!

scuncio
06-24-2010, 08:31 PM
Looks SINISTER!!

mockingbird812
06-24-2010, 08:33 PM
Feel free to post more pix of your terrific Camaro!

firstgenaddict
07-01-2010, 01:51 AM
I'm waitin for the Ansens or Torque thrusts to go back on... man that thing would make a hell-uv-a DAY II....

bergy
07-01-2010, 03:38 PM
I agree - I'm going to show this car in stock configuration (with YHs) at Fall Hershey. Then put the Torque Thrusts on for display in my garage.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00490.jpg

firstgenaddict
07-10-2010, 02:33 PM
NICE! I love that car... Yellow Traction bars... ohhhhh

69z28302
07-14-2010, 03:24 AM
Coming along great. What a nice job.

Mike

bergy
07-20-2010, 10:18 PM
Car is just waiting for a couple of small parts plus wheel alignment, etc. Took a couple of pics today, but it's rainy here. I'll poat a bunch of pics outside in a week or so.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00499.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00494.jpg

GenOne
07-21-2010, 12:23 AM
Looking great Bruce!

Xplantdad
07-21-2010, 03:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GenOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looking great Bruce! </div></div>

Agreed! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

bergy
08-13-2010, 11:34 PM
Brought the car home today - too bad it was so cloudy, but I took these pics before putting it away.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00557.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00559.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00561.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00556.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00558.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00560.jpg

mockingbird812
08-13-2010, 11:53 PM
Nice Bruce. Looks like its getting along famously with its other stable mates. Love the Ewing Sports Dept decal. I have an 06B customer ordered Chevelle from Ewing that may have been at the dealership with your beauty.

I went back to the beginning of this thread to see that your's is an 05E car, so there is a chance they were at the Ewing together.

scuncio
08-15-2010, 04:41 AM
Looks great. I'm sure you are proud of the way it turned out. One of my favorite cars on this site (Sam's black/red 69 SS396 ain't bad either!)

m22mike
08-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Bruce
It has beem a a treat to follow the re birth of another Ewing Chevy car.
By chance have you sent any of the finished car shots to Bob Schafer yet ? I know her would love to see her done.
Hope to see your car sometime, and meet you too.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

bergy
08-15-2010, 04:59 PM
Thanks for the kind words. Actually, I do have two sets of 8x10 photos going out to Bob Shaffer and Don Valdiserri (original owner). Don is not feeling the greatest these days, so hope these pics will cheer him up. You guys are always welcome to visit when in the Lancaster area. I'm only 1 hour from Carlisle and 45 minutes from hershey.

x77-69z28
08-15-2010, 06:28 PM
it is a gorgeous restoration!!!!!! post some pics from a sunny day, it is amazing how different the car looks in the sun. with my burnished brown z, its like having two different cars. thanks for sharing.

MosportGreen66
08-16-2010, 01:36 AM
Very nice restoration. Thank you for sharing with the community. What are the specs on the Vette and other COPO car?

Dan

bergy
08-16-2010, 02:36 AM
Corvette is original 427/400, M-21, marina blue with blue/white interior. Tank sheet and all owner history. Numbers car.

Other COPO - M-21, sportscar, X-11, POP, finance papers, delivery papers, one owner until 2001, never in rain since new - all original sheet metal, numbers car.

bergy
10-05-2010, 11:35 AM
My burnish brown copo will be in the judging field at Hershey on Saturday - stop by if any SYC members are there.

elonblock
10-07-2010, 07:57 PM
Good luck!

Nasblu
10-12-2010, 12:03 AM
I checked it out on Saturday at Hershey Very Beautiful car!!!! Loved the color in the sunlight! No was around the car when I checked it out. Doesn't it make you mad all that paved parking lot at Hershey park and they park some of the most expensive cars in the world in that uneven dusty dirty field. Not to mention the #@$% treatment plant down below.

bergy
10-14-2010, 11:59 AM
Thanks for your comment - sorry that I missed you. I was back and forth between the Challenger and the copo all day. Both cars got invited to Meadowbrook next July - great day.

AutoInsane
11-02-2010, 05:34 PM
Link to the original discussion of this car:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=331235&amp;page=1

bergy
11-02-2010, 07:28 PM
Just thought that I'd end this thread with final pictures of the completed car

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00576.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00575.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00574.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/DSC00597.jpg

m22mike
11-02-2010, 09:28 PM
Nice Bergy.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
I am Diggin the Ewing sticker...I take it you sent pic's to Bob Schafer ?
Can't wait to see it someday.

Mike

bergy
11-02-2010, 11:52 PM
Mike - I did send Bob a picture. I also sent several to Donn V (the original owner) - great car people and a big help with writing the story of the car!

Xplantdad
11-03-2010, 02:24 AM
Wow...your COPO is just beautiful!

mockingbird812
11-03-2010, 06:21 AM
Ruggedly hansome COPO Bergy. Love the B. Brown. Very nice! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

m22mike
11-22-2011, 05:39 PM
Bruce
It was great to finally see your B Brown COPO @ MCACN.
Your PM box is full, need to send you a message.

Mike

bergy
11-22-2011, 08:07 PM
Good to see you also Mike - PM box cleaned out.

galopin
11-24-2011, 03:54 AM
Congratulations on the restoration! Beautifully executed. I saw this car at MCACN, and in a room full of unique and rare Camaros, this was one of my favorites.

bergy
11-24-2011, 12:58 PM
Thanks!

Charley Lillard
11-24-2011, 03:54 PM
Now this sucks...I didn't realize that was your COPO at MCACN. Another reason Cumby is doing SYC name tag stickers next year.

Nova Jed
11-24-2011, 08:09 PM
Very nice to meet you last week Bruce. I wish I had followed this thread years ago. The BB really looks good on your COPO and I love the Liquid tire chain.

bergy
11-24-2011, 10:19 PM
Good to see you too Jed. Nice to have some young(er) car guys involved in the hobby!

CJP_69
06-26-2012, 02:23 PM
You did a great job on the car Bruce. I'm glad that I finally got to see it at the SLS. That burnished brown is motivating.

Chris <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif