1967 Corvette L71 435 Roadster -BG BENCHMARK CAR

[csx289]

100% original 18k mile unrestored Rally Red 435 Vette Roadster- showroom new - 1967 all over again!

Awards:
Bloomington Gold; BG Survivor; BG BENCHMARK; NCRS Top Flight; Chevy/Vettefest Gold Spinner; Triple Crown Award; you name it, it has won it.

Full details:
http://colinsclassicauto.com/detail.php?car=360

Realistically priced at $275k.

Any questions please email me- [email protected]

[92646]

Colin do you offer tours of your cars? My gosh you have some real neat cars.

[csx289]

Hi Mark,

You are welcome to visit my garage any time. Just let me know when and I will meet you there! I think you'd find a few cars you may like http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Colin

[SBR]

Colin,
I know the car well, it is a great car. I love that original motor stamp it just screams real deal! Good luck with the sale.

[FASTONE]

Beautiful car Colin. If I re-mortgage the house and make my daughter quit College..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Xplantdad]

That is just too cool Colin...

Alright...where's Les? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[olredalert]

-----Colin,,,Do you presently have a Griffith, maybe that gold one in the article??? I see you are at least interested in them. I had a 65 200 with the optional 350hp 289 dual quad engine. It was absolutely the fastest street car I ever owned. 1890 lbs. and 350 horsies. Do the math......Bill S

[csx289]

Hi Bill,

Yes, indeed I do have a Griff. It is a 200 with the HiPo 289, single 4bbl (Autolite 4100 C3OF as I recall, the 600 cfm one) Bought it from the original owner, who bought it when he was 19 with the money he earned from racing Porsches on the east coast for Max Hoffman. I have his notes from when he compared it to a 289 Cobra at the time. The deciding factor was the Cobra weighed 2200 lbs with 271 hp and the Griff was 1500 lbs (published in literature) soaking wet and had the same HP and...was $300 less! He drove it for about 18 months and then parked it becase he said if he kept driving it he "would be dead" becuase he didn't trust that his abilities were high enough to control the Griff. Mind you, this was a kid who won a lot of races for Hoffmann, and driving for Max was the US equivalent of getting a spot on Enzo Ferraris team almost http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The little bugger is out getting the headliner replaced this week, I'll snap you some pictures soon. Cool little car, 10k miles from new, original Farina 8k horizontal tach just like a Cobra. Have any pics of yours? More importantly, have any pictures of you squeezed into it? That had to be a damn funny sight, like the Shriners rolling into town http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Colin

[SIR-VIVOR]

That's a great 435 roadster Colin and red to boot! I believe only four '67 big blocks of any horsepower have ever received the Bloomington Benchmark award. A no brainer! Chris

[csx289]

Hey Chris,

Well, I happen to know just where the other 435 Benchmark car is sitting... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

I agree, the red car at $275k is a no brainer. It sold in 2005 for over $400k as we all know. I don't think there is another Benchmark '67 435 available at any price, if there is even a 3rd one?

Colin

[olredalert]

-----Colin,,,I do have a couple of pics and have put my hands on one. Ill find the second which is a bit better. Send me your address as my scanner is no longer functioning, and Ill snail em to you. I have a couple of other pics you may like that Ill include to make up for the quality of the Griffith pic which was taken in 1969/70. You will recognize the people........Bill S

[1railman]

There is a post on Corvette forum, someone wants a car of this caliber.

[csx289]

Hi Railman,

Would you mind posting or emailing a link to the Corvette forum you mention? I am not familiar with it. So many forums, so little time http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks!
Colin

[68 Vert]

Link to Corvette forum want ad Linky (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?p=1567675220&posted=1#post156767522 0)

Mike

[TimG]

I've seen this car a number of times and I'm very familiar with Benchmark type Corvettes. It's an amazing car with nice options and colors. I love it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[1railman]

[ QUOTE ]
Hi Railman,

Would you mind posting or emailing a link to the Corvette forum you mention? I am not familiar with it. So many forums, so little time http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Looks like 68Vert got you fixed up. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif Person who posted original ad looks as though he's for real.

[1railman]

I LOVE this car as well. If I were serious buyer I would be bringing this car to PA.

[Les Quam]

I am trying to learn more about the Benchmark award. Is it common for a Vette to be awarded a Benchmark award with reproduction tires which is what appears to be on this incredible Vette? Its a big deal in Ford world I was wondering how the Vette guys handle it? I always thought the MCA requirement of date code correct tires for a Thoroughbred gold was unrealistic and virtually rendered a car to be like furniture. I think for a Benchmark the cars have to be able to drive 40 miles so date code correct tires might be a problem? Just curious.

[csx289]

Real simple- the car has to pass Gold Certification yet be unrestored to Benchmark. That means paint, interior, chassis, trim, engine compartment all have to be 96% or better of "typical factory production and appearance," but, again in the case of a Benchmark car there has to be no restoration. There is no stipulation as to original or repop tires, you can pass Gold Certification with repop tires. The BG website will have the judging criteria.

Hope this helps.

[napa68]

[ QUOTE ]
I am trying to learn more about the Benchmark award. Is it common for a Vette to be awarded a Benchmark award with reproduction tires which is what appears to be on this incredible Vette? Its a big deal in Ford world I was wondering how the Vette guys handle it? I always thought the MCA requirement of date code correct tires for a Thoroughbred gold was unrealistic and virtually rendered a car to be like furniture. I think for a Benchmark the cars have to be able to drive 40 miles so date code correct tires might be a problem? Just curious.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are correct about the 40 mile test. The BG Gold / Benchmark to my knowledge does not condem reproduction tires provided they are correct in size, manufacturer,construction, etc.. The reoccuring theme for the car is as produced, no better.....no worse. I'm sure someone else will chime in. If you would like to see the poster child for BG Benchmark, take a look at Colin's car.
If you would like to learn more about the standards for Benchmark, I would suggest viewing a set of the judging sheets and discussing the subject with a BG judge. Unfortunately, the standards for BG judging are not readily published compared to NCRS. Hope this helps
Tim

[Stuart Adams]

Wow Colin, what an awesome car.

[TimG]

One requirement for Benchmark status is to pass Survivor in all four areas, exterior, interior, chassis and engine compartment. For Survivor judging, tires, battery and exhaust system are not considered in the judging process.
The car must be presented for Bloomington Gold judging the next day (same weekend) and the tires, battery and exhaust system are judged. About the only thing that they allow the owner to change are the tires. Put radials on for Survivor judging and your original dated tires on for Gold judging. Repops or radials will receive an appropriate deduction and the car can still achieve Gold status.

[SBR]

Tim hits it right on the head the car must be deemed at least 50% original in all four judging catagories ie. chassis, engine compartment, interior, exterior, pass a 40 mile road test. Then it must achieve a Gold certification on the same weekend which is at least 95%, no small feat when you are dealing with cars that are 40 plus years old.

[Les Quam]

Thanks guys. Thats really the way it should be. A very common sense real world way to judge a car. Its amazing any Vette can pass all that and win all the prestigious awards this Vette has won? The best thing about this car is you can drive it and enjoy it as well as show it, its not a trailer queen you treat like furniture. You can get some dirt on it maybe a scuff or nick from the road and still bring it to the most significant Vette meets in the country and win it all. From my perspective I would much prefer this car to a restored car.

I have been complaining to the top MCA guys for a while that their insane requirements for date code correct tires, exhaust and battery etc. are sucking all the fun out of the cars. You spend years looking for an NOS exhaust then you don't want to start the car due to the time spent finding it and the expense to buy it.

[SIR-VIVOR]

I agree 100%. I've been fortunate to Benchmark Nine 1967 Corvettes. Six of them were 435 horsepowered cars. What a blast on the 40 mile road test. A bit scary driving on the old tires. Blew two out on one of the cars once. Colins car is a great one!

[SIR-VIVOR]

p.s. When I said earlier in this post about only four 67 big blocks receiving Benchmark awards. That was four red cars.

[Les Quam]

Chris,
I have had the same experience with the old tires. Frankly I am furious over the whole thing. It takes no skill to buy an old set of tires other than to write a check? Whats the point? The MCA has lately been allowing you to bring the old tires for display rather than have them on the car which is more reasonable.

Colin has a nice article in this months SCM magazine discussing high dollar resto's and NOS parts and the stupid prices for those parts, its a must read for anyone with a survivor type car considering a resto or anyone considering a resto for that matter?

From my experience the judges that are the driving force behind cars needing to have date code correct NOS tires, exhaust and batteries are the people who make a nice income selling those items. The Mopar guys had a nice battle over this NOS stuff about a year ago. After having done it now on about half a dozen cars I will NEVER do it again and I advise everyone who asks me to stay away from it. The prices of the old parts and Ford guys seem to be the worst are simply insane IMHO. Its one thing to buy a survivor car that already has the parts on the car and another to restore a car with NOS parts.

[TimG]

I like to keep an NOS set of tires around, I think Chris has a few (like a tire rack full) old tires around. Repops really don't take a big hit at Bloomington or NCRS. NCRS will judge the spare separately, so you can get points for a NOS spare.
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[Les Quam]

Unfortunately for a Ford guy I need Goodyear blue dots for my 65 Shelby and have been looking for one more for two years now. For my 67 Shelby Goodyear small letter speedway tires. For my 69 cars I need a Goodyear no size tire and for my 70 cars need a sized Goodyear tire. It gets expensive.