69Z Restoration

[Ngtflyr]

I have finally got to the point where I am making forward progress and not just going in reverse correcting things. In defense of the previous owner, he started restoring it as a driver and wasn't too concerned about correctness. As his project stalled and the price of Z's went up he decided to stop and do it right. He never got past this point other than gathering up parts over the last few years. When I bought it off him the car had sat in the back of his shop for about 5 years. The engine had been rebuilt adn installed, the car painted, vinyl top installed. I took it back down to the firewall and started over. Here are a few shots to start with. I plan to show the whole process from here on. I hope for lots of constructive input from the experts as I don't consider myself to be one. I am learning as I go. My background was owning a 69 Chevelle SS 396 in high school and not having two nickles to rub together doing all the work to keep it running myself as every dime I had went in the gastank. I have also done a frame off on a 69 RS Covertible, a 66 Mustang and two joint projects with Sam Griffith (Mockingbird) a 70 442 and a 69 SS Chevelle Ragtop. This Z28 is a low mile 33,000 Phoenix car, I am the 4th owner, it is Daytona Yellow, White Vinyl Top, White Houndstooth Int, 4:10 rear, original engine, date code correct (3 months early) transmission, a deteriorating build sheet, found above the fuel tank, LA built car, no X code. Unfortunately the paint is already done, average paint with improper white stripes. I plan to leave the stripes white for the present time and possibly correct them down the road. It will be slow going the next month or two as I am working a LOT of overtime, but need the money for parts. Hopefully what I post will inspire someone to get on their project because if I can do it with my mediocre mechanical skills in my garage so can you.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1691.jpg Here is where I am at this point:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1689.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1721.jpg

Eng Stamp Pad http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1679-1.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1682.jpg http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1683.jpg


More to follow

[Ngtflyr]

I stripped down the upper half of the firewall due to the large number of runs, looking for the hidden vin, there is none below the heaterbox (comments on that?) and the fact that the trim tag had been sanded down to bare metal. There are a few more holes in the firewall than I like, I almost had them repaired but left them as is, there is a large hole drilled approx 4-5 inches below the heater box, a couple of drill holes above the heater box, I assume from the a mallory ignition box or equivillant. There are a couple other drilled out holes over on the drivers side as well for lines to the various guages. According to what I was told this car sat on the lot for nearly a year, possibly due to the white top/black stipes. The 1st owner bought it and painted it black and raced it. I have some leads on the first owner and hope to track him down as soon as possible. Second owner drove the car until he was sent to prison and the third owner bought it about 12 years ago. I have know of the car for about 6 years. Here is the area where the hidden vin should be not the inch in diameter hole at the lower right:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_16651.jpg

Engine Casting Number:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1675.jpg

Eng cast date: Mar 18 1969
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1677.jpg

186 Heads: Mar 13 1969
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1673.jpg

Mar 14 1969, the heads are one day apart and 4 and 5 days prior to the eng respectively:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1672.jpg

Don't have the right distributor so.... if anyone has one let me know!

[Ngtflyr]

Can anyone breakdown the radiator tag. I plan on having it pressure checked, straighten the fins and thats all I think it needs. Oh, and get all the dog hair out of it, the radiator was just a mat of dog hair. Does anyone have a good radiator repair shop in the east valley, or Phoenix if no-one knows any good shops in the east valley.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1743.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1745.jpg

BV rear, supposedly the original born with 4:10, 28 Mar Detroit and I can't read the last letter/number(does anyone know what it might be.. E below the date code designates a Eaton Poistraction diferential. I will try and get some better pics of the rear stamping when I get a chance.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1705.jpg


Note the Chambered Exhaust:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1709.jpg


69 Camaro 12 Bolt:
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1713.jpg

[tabooo]

Look to see if the vin is @ the cowl location,can you show a pic of the trim tag?

[Ngtflyr]

The partial vin is up on the cowl area, I will post a pic of that and the TT, when I get a chance.

[Mr70]

Can anyone breakdown the radiator tag.

UH is the Std. radiator used on 302cid Z/28 Camaro & 350/260HP L-65 AC equipped Camaro during 69.
IH & CB are the tanks codes.
59 is a quality control # I believe.
That looks like a service tag from a shop called Burtons Rad.Not a Harrison or Ass.line item.

[Ngtflyr]

Thanks Rick,

Here is a crappy pic of the TT, I will post a better one when I can get some daylight lighting in a couple days.

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/69ZTT.jpg

Here is the partial vin on the cowl area:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20DY%20Z28/69Z28EngineCompartment/IMG_1724.jpg

[CC Rider]

Great work so far! Thanks for posting up your pics! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[m22mike]

[ QUOTE ]
I stripped down the upper half of the firewall due to the large number of runs, looking for the hidden vin, there is none below the heaterbox (comments on that?)

FYI: Currently working on a 05A LOS 69 Camaro, also no 2nd. vin# @ blower motor hole. I think this is somewhat common on LOS Camaro's http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Nice work http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif Keep an eye on that Sam guy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
Cold Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Jeff H]

My JL8 car is an 04A Van Nuys car and I don't recall finding the VIN by the heater either so I wouldn't worry about it.

[Seattle Sam]

[ QUOTE ]
BV rear, supposedly the original born with 4:10, 28 Mar Detroit and I can't read the last letter/number(does anyone know what it might be.. E below the date code designates a Eaton Poistraction diferential.

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like a "2" to me! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[RamAirDave]

The G2 at the end of the axle stamp denotes 2nd shift at the gear plant.

[ChevyThunder]

I have Z/28 L528144 all original in need of restoration but if you think photos would help with your resto PM me your email address and I will hook you up... mine is an 03D build with a BV rear end and M21, yellow/yellow with black standard.

[Ngtflyr]

"The G2 at the end of the axle stamp denotes 2nd shift at the gear plant."

Thanks wasn't sure the significance of the "2".

Van,

I sent you a pm with my email address, it would be great to get some good original photos. I have a unmolested plain jane car to reference but it has the interior and eng out of it.

Does anyone have a pic of the driveshaft paint stripes?


thanks

[69z28302]

Looks great! Keep up the good work!

On my Norwood Car the VIN is behind the heater box assembly stamped on the firewall.

MM http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[x77-69z28]

the hidden vin is under the hole for the blower motor. the pic you posted was under the heater core. it is further out on the firewall and is stamped upside down.

[Ngtflyr]

Here is an update to where I am now. When a friend of mine paints his 67 Camaro racecar DY I am going to respray the cowl area to clean that up the way it should be. Any recommendations on someone to restore the valve covers, especially anyone in the Phoenix area? Sent an email to Jerry McNiesh a few days back so far no response.

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1757.jpg

Hard to find two piece rotors:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1761.jpg

Does anyone have the dimensions or a photo of the correct bolt for the exhaust hangers pictured here?

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1759.jpg

[Bill Pritchard]

I suspect Dave will be updating this thread very soon, as more progress has been made on this beautiful Z http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ngtflyr]

Bill,

Thanks for the help today!!

I finally got to see Bill's awesome 69 Chevelle SS Survivor, very sweet car.

Bill helped me hang the front clip on today, updates to follow.

[m22mike]

Does anyone have the dimensions or a photo of the correct bolt for the exhaust hangers pictured here?

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1759.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Per 69 Camaro AIM

GM # 9411890 RE: AMK, top left on pg 97 pn# B-10053, 1/4-20 x 5/8

Mike

http://www.amkproducts.com/Catalog_PDF/92-108.pdf

[Jonesy]

Here is an NOS exhaust hanger on my car with bolt.

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/392757-DSC00006.JPG

[Jonesy]

another

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/392758-DSC00007.JPG

[Ngtflyr]

Finally took a few pics of progress over the last few months. Work and life sure has a way of getting in the way.

Had to reshoot all the hinges due to the hack job the previous owner did while hanging the doors:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Exterior%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1853.jpg

Here's a shot with the front clip hung back on with Bill Prichert's help:
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Exterior%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1912.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Exterior%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1903.jpg

Here are the Ralley's all lined up and ready to go with their new Goodyears I got thru Smallhurst:
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Exterior%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1904.jpg

And on the car, still waiting for the hood hinges and powerbooster to get back from Steve Griego:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Exterior%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1913.jpg

Found a set of NOS 69 AZ plates for when I register it:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Exterior%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1917.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Looking sweet Dave. Color combo is killer! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Ngtflyr]

Got the valve covers back from Jerry MacNeish a while back, pretty reasonable price too:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Engine%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1123.jpg

Diverter Valve: http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Engine%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1125.jpg

Radiator:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Engine%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1143.jpg

Starter 9 C 6:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Engine%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1875.jpg

Alternator 9 C 10:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Engine%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1878.jpg

772 Fan:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Engine%2069%20DY%20Z28/IMG_1781.jpg

[Ngtflyr]

Interior is coming along, still waiting to get the original rosewood wheel back from Gary's wheel restorations:

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Interior%2069DY%20Z28/IMG_1898.jpg


http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Interior%2069DY%20Z28/IMG_1897.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Interior%2069DY%20Z28/IMG_1908.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Interior%2069DY%20Z28/IMG_1911.jpg


http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/Interior%2069DY%20Z28/IMG_1901.jpg

[Bill Pritchard]

Looking good, Dave! Let me know if you need more help with anything. Those 69 AZ plates look *perfect* on that car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[enio45]

Dave, looking real nice - cannot wait to see it in person!

[Ngtflyr]

Here's an update on my Z28, couple things to sort out but it's pretty much done. Jetting is off on the carb, bogging when you get on it. Sorted out my electical issues finally, the problem was the turn signal fuse was blowing. Ended up being the console guage package was improperly grounded, wasted a lot of time figuring that one out. Basically went through the entire electical system a couple times. I also need to adjust the rear brakes but other than that the car is finished. Here are a couple driveway pics until I can find time for a proper photo shoot.


http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1389.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1387.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1390.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/IMG_1388.jpg

[njsteve]

Nice job! I love that color combination.

Do much fossil hunting in those mountains in your backyard? That's a great location you got there.

[enio45]

Dave, nice job....bring it by the house someday...i assume your driving this car or is it one of those trailer queens?

[Ngtflyr]

Steve, the only fossils I hunt have four wheels and lots of horse power. I just discovered one a couple weeks ago. 69 RS Camaro, X22, L34, 714 interior, AC, tilt, rear antenna, 308 open.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20%20L34%20Camaro%20DY/IMG_1396.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20%20L34%20Camaro%20DY/IMG_1397.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq356/69Z28Camaro/69%20%20L34%20Camaro%20DY/IMG_1401.jpg

[Ngtflyr]

Ed,

I will be driving it once I get it all sorted out and licensed.

[Tracker1]

Your "banana-cream" Z28 looks delicious. Nice job.

[Xplantdad]

Great job Dave! When are you bringing it out to Pavillions? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ngtflyr]

Bruce,
It'll be there in a couple weeks, after I get back from Lousianna.

[Xplantdad]

Cool...remind me when you are going to be there via PM...I forget a lot of things these days... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ngtflyr]

[ QUOTE ]
Your "banana-cream" Z28 looks delicious. Nice job.

[/ QUOTE ]

banana-cream.... I like it

[njsteve]

Nah, that's more like Lemon Meringue!

[elonblock]

Beautiful job!

[LITTLE TOMMIE]

the Z28 looks great and i love the DAYTONA YELLOW it's one of my favorits as you all know!!!!
very nice job. when it takes that long to do it right it feels so good to get it finished. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[parkbrau]

That work you did deserves a rating of OUTSTANDING! A twin of this car was bought and sold between 3 buddies of mine in Las Vegas, back in 73ish to 82ish. I had dibs on it the next time it was up for sale. That never happened, a divorce screwed me out of that Z.