z16chevlle.com website

[jeffschevelle]

Just wanted to let everyone know that, with the help of Dave Miner's wife, we have Dave's website ( www.z16chevelle.com (http://www.z16chevelle.com) ) back up and running again. I'll try to get it updated by adding some additional Z16's in the next few weeks. Jeff

[carguy]

That is great news. Thank you so much for your hard work along with Dave's wife getting this important site back up.

FYI - I talked with Mark Young late yesterday regarding the pair of z-16's offered on ebay. Mark wanted to list the cars with as many pictures as possible. When he reached the ebay listing picture limit he then created a page on his web site to direct people to the additional pictures. He then listed his website on the ebay listing for this purpose.

Ebay pulled the listing yesterday in the middle of the auction without notice due to his website being shown on the ebay listing. They said this is unfair competition with ebay. To bad they did not call or email first as Mark would have been happy to remove his website address from the listing. He said he is going to relist the pair later this week.

[SS427]

Great job Jeff. We were wondering if it would just be let go or maintained and glad to see it will be maintained. Dave would be very pleased.

[bashton]

That's great Jeff! Tell Mrs. Miner we appreciate her (and your) efforts at keeping this excellent site up and running.

BA

[Xplantdad]

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That's great Jeff! Tell Mrs. Miner we appreciate her (and your) efforts at keeping this excellent site up and running.

BA

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Amen! We miss you Dave! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[DaleM]

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That is great news. Thank you so much for your hard work along with Dave's wife getting this important site back up.

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Ditto. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif Certainly would be a shame to lose the data to history. Anyone know if the site will be updated as new information comes to light?

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FYI - I talked with Mark Young late yesterday regarding the pair of z-16's offered on ebay. Mark wanted to list the cars with as many pictures as possible. When he reached the ebay listing picture limit he then created a page on his web site to direct people to the additional pictures. He then listed his website on the ebay listing for this purpose.

Ebay pulled the listing yesterday in the middle of the auction without notice due to his website being shown on the ebay listing. They said this is unfair competition with ebay. To bad they did not call or email first as Mark would have been happy to remove his website address from the listing. He said he is going to relist the pair later this week.

[/ QUOTE ]I'd almost bet some car dealer complained. I list my 66 & 67 Reference CDs on eBay frequently and have a link not only to the site I sell them at but a link to a 'test drive' area on my site and never had a problem.

[DaleM]

I noticed a couple of things after reviewing the site. On the prototype page, http://www.z16chevelle.com/First%20Z16%20Chevelle%20Prototype.htm, it says "Documented and accepted as the first Z16 built. Only 200 Z16’s followed."

Then on the documentation page, http://www.z16chevelle.com/No.%201%20Z16%20Prototype%20Documentation.htm, it shows two prototypes built at Balimore. That would leave 199 from KC in normal production, correct?

[1967Z28]

Wouldn't it still be 201 total production line cars and two prototypes are not figured into the total (thus, 203 total)? Vince Piggins had a list of the first 20 Z16s which Doug Marion printed in Chevy Rumble and what Vince showed as car #1 went to a dealership (I forget which one) not to Chevrolet Engineering.

-Jon

[x Baldwin Motion]

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I noticed a couple of things after reviewing the site. On the prototype page, http://www.z16chevelle.com/First%20Z16%20Chevelle%20Prototype.htm, it says "Documented and accepted as the first Z16 built. Only 200 Z16’s followed."

Then on the documentation page, http://www.z16chevelle.com/No.%201%20Z16%20Prototype%20Documentation.htm, it shows two prototypes built at Balimore. That would leave 199 from KC in normal production, correct?

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I have always believed that to be correct. 2 from BAL - 199 KC.

[jeffschevelle]

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I noticed a couple of things after reviewing the site. On the prototype page, http://www.z16chevelle.com/First%20Z16%20Chevelle%20Prototype.htm, it says "Documented and accepted as the first Z16 built. Only 200 Z16’s followed."

Then on the documentation page, http://www.z16chevelle.com/No.%201%20Z16%20Prototype%20Documentation.htm, it shows two prototypes built at Balimore. That would leave 199 from KC in normal production, correct?

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I don't think there is a clear answer to this question. Since both prototypes would have been destroyed if normal protocol had been adhered to, my personal opinion (with no proof) is that neither prototype was counted. Also, the surviving prototype was still owned by the tech center until Mr. Hunke bought it in (I think) 1966, so when the brass said to build and sell 200, I doubt they would have counted the prototypes.

Then the 'vert was a separately commissioned one-off, definitely outside the 200.

So I personally believe there were 203, being the 2 Balt. prototypes (one of those having been destroyed without ever being sold), 200 KC coupes, and 1 KC vert.

Jeff

[1967Z28]

Since the prototype Z16(s) came off the end of the Baltimore production line as a 327/300hp and was converted after that at the Engineering Tech Center, it wouldn't seem to make sense that Chevrolet would have counted the two protoype cars in their production totals. Hence, that 203 number just seems right to me. Just my opinion, of course.

-Jon

[PeteLeathersac]

Great news on Dave's website continuing on!!!
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

Wouldn't chances be good that the ragtop may have been a converted 327/300 car too?.
And even though it's not an L37, could the L78 Post car built possibly fit into the production # puzzle somehow?.
Here's the clone ragtop thread we were all looking at a few weeks back w/ info on the real L78 Post car...still love to see more on that one! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...amp;Main=367305 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=368232&Search page=2&Main=367305)

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~ Pete

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I like real cars best...the REAL real ones!

[x Baldwin Motion]

199, 201 or 203 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif as long as we all get to see at least one each of the three colors in our life time.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif


now I just have to work on getting a ride in one http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[1967Z28]

Points deduction for using posi burnout graemlin during Z16 discussion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

-Jon

P.S. Definitely cool that the website is back up and running. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Points deduction for using posi burnout graemlin during Z16 discussion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

-Jon

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damn.... busted. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif
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[jeffschevelle]

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Wouldn't chances be good that the ragtop may have been a converted 327/300 car too?

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It was supposedly authorized to be built first, and was then built at the Kansas plant. So if that's true then I'd say it got a 396 on the assembly line. If it had come out of another plant you'd probably be right.

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And even though it's not an L37, could the L78 Post car built possibly fit into the production # puzzle somehow?

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It was built in June (at KC), a couple of months after the Z16 run had ended, so would not count in the originally authorized 200 cars. Jeff