1978 Chevrolet Corvette Indy PaceCar L82

[JJEH]

Hi,

please look at here (http://www.vaultcars.com/78Corvette/78Vette.htm) and tell me:

- how can i find out is this an really original Pace Car and not only a fake?
- if the car not too cheap with this historical background? There´re "only" EUR18.366,00...

I like the Corvette... looks like very rare...

Or did i mislead me? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[Charley Lillard]

It is safe to say it is real. Nobody is faking those cars that I know of. They don't bring much money so the crooks don't bother with them.

[TimG]

I couldn't open the attachment, but all Pace Cars were two tone black and silver with silver interior. If the trim tag verifies these interior/exterior colors, you have a Pace Car. If it doesn't have a trim tag or if the tag shows another combination, stay away.

[JJEH]

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I couldn't open the attachment, but all Pace Cars were two tone black and silver with silver interior. If the trim tag verifies these interior/exterior colors, you have a Pace Car. If it doesn't have a trim tag or if the tag shows another combination, stay away.

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Aha,... that´s a thing i didn´t know...
Very, interested... thank´s

Here´s a link to a pic.
http://www.thesvda.com/resize.asp?peaid=93618525&image=0_32_2222_1.jpg&si ze=500&show=1

[GeorgeLyons]

One sure way....8th digit of VIN must be a "9" or no-go.

[TimG]

George, that's the best way.......

[Mr. Chevy]

Car looks legit to me.. I would find it hard to believe that people are cloning these things now...

Rich

[JJEH]

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One sure way....8th digit of VIN must be a "9" or no-go.

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What did just say the "9"? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Dave Rifkin]

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One sure way....8th digit of VIN must be a "9" or no-go.

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What did just say the "9"? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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He said that the 8th number of the cars VIN must be a 9 in order for it to be a genuine Pace Car Corvette

[JJEH]

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One sure way....8th digit of VIN must be a "9" or no-go.

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What did just say the "9"? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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He said that the 8th number of the cars VIN must be a 9 in order for it to be a genuine Pace Car Corvette

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Haha, ok... thanks.

Does anybody know how many times are was built the Pace Car?

Or have Pace Cars a fixed number of built?

[JQ]

Roughly 6,502

[L78racer]

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Roughly 6,502

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Correct. There was supposed to be 1 per Chevy dealer. I remember going to Bob McDorman's annual swap meet around that time. He had purchased a lot of these cars from other dealers. He had about 30 of them lined up on the lot.

[olredalert]

-----I think Bob bought two from us at Classic Motors. We probably had about ten or twelve go thru the books. A few of them we never even saw as they got redirected to new owners who immediatly tried to flip them too........Bill S

[JJEH]

Mmmh, 6502 pieces are not many...

And one for every Dealer... how cool are that?

I just call my banker after the Christmas Days http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
But my wife don´t like the Corvette http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

A increase in value if it´s possible? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

But it´s not the original engine and radio... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[72-SS-L48]

A couple other items to note:

1 - The rear window looks to be tinted. It is not supposed to be tinted.

2 - There appear to be stereo speakers mounted on the back wall of the interior behind the seats and rear compartment. Those obviously are not original either.

3 - Based on how the glove box door fits, and how the cover below the steering column fits, my guess is the dash was replaced. It's probably your typical after market dash.

4 - The owners manual pictured 3 pictures from the bottom is not original for a 78 Pace Car. That owners manual is for a 78 Corvette 25th anniversary car. The original 78 Pace Car owners manuals look like the original one I have pictured below.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/IMG00009.jpg

What the VIN # of the car? Whats the Trim tag info? 22K miles? And NOM? For the same roughly $25,000 USD I think you might be able to get a nicer more original 78 Pace Car. Just my two cents.

-Dave

[72-SS-L48]

Here's a link that might help you. It gives some basic information on the 78 Corvette.

http://www.corvetterestoration.com/favoritevette/78vette.htm

Dave

[JJEH]

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A couple other items to note:

1 - The rear window looks to be tinted. It is not supposed to be tinted.

2 - There appear to be stereo speakers mounted on the back wall of the interior behind the seats and rear compartment. Those obviously are not original either.

3 - Based on how the glove box door fits, and how the cover below the steering column fits, my guess is the dash was replaced. It's probably your typical after market dash.

4 - The owners manual pictured 3 pictures from the bottom is not original for a 78 Pace Car. That owners manual is for a 78 Corvette 25th anniversary car. The original 78 Pace Car owners manuals look like the original one I have pictured below.

What the VIN # of the car? Whats the Trim tag info? 22K miles? And NOM? For the same roughly $25,000 USD I think you might be able to get a nicer more original 78 Pace Car. Just my two cents.

-Dave

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Hey Dave, thanks for the Infos and thanks for the very interesting link...

I don´t know the VIN.

But for roundabout 2weeks the Corvette costs $2000 more as now...

That sounds not good what you are say...

Looks like the Corvette is a tinkering Car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Well, here in Germany we have following Cars, for example:

1976 L-82 matching numbers (http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?id=91605849&__lp=5&scopeId=C&sort Option.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&sortOption.s ortOrder=ASCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=6325&m akeModelVariant1.modelId=2&makeModelVariant1.searc hInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreete xt=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false& vehicleCategory=Car&segment=Car&siteId=GERMANY&neg ativeFeatures=EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UN REPAIRED&export=NO_EXPORT&customerIdsAsString=&lan g=de&pageNumber=1)

1980 Stingray Targa (http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?id=90435963&__lp=5&scopeId=C&sort Option.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&sortOption.s ortOrder=ASCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=6325&m akeModelVariant1.modelId=2&makeModelVariant1.searc hInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreete xt=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false& vehicleCategory=Car&segment=Car&siteId=GERMANY&neg ativeFeatures=EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UN REPAIRED&export=NO_EXPORT&customerIdsAsString=&lan g=de&pageNumber=1)

1969 C3 Convertible (http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?id=27617834&__lp=5&scopeId=C&sort Option.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&sortOption.s ortOrder=ASCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=6325&m akeModelVariant1.modelId=2&makeModelVariant1.searc hInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreete xt=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false& vehicleCategory=Car&segment=Car&siteId=GERMANY&neg ativeFeatures=EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UN REPAIRED&export=NO_EXPORT&customerIdsAsString=&lan g=de&pageNumber=5)

I think these Cars are nothing unusual... and to expensive...

The Pace Car looks like exceptional, is a limited Car and maybe it add to the value...

[olredalert]

-----Stroker,,,With apologies to the other poster, the tinted back window is of no real consequence as it can be pealed right off. As well, I can assure you that the stereo speakers in the rear are factory, absolutely! I cant tell you weather they came in the car or not but they are factory. Its rare to find a 1978 Corvette without those speakers as almost all 78s had upgraded factory radios that required them. The radio is not the original, however. The fit of the dash pieces is, as far as I am concerned, typical "factory fit". I would be very surprised if you could find any Corvette from that era with a dash that fit any better. These Corvettes were still being produced in St.Louis and there were glaring problems on that assembly line all thru this period. I used to wholesale this era of Corvettes by the dozens back in the early 80s and had to clean and detail most of them so Im fairly intimate with these interiors. Hope I havent irritated anyone too much with this post.....Bill S

-------Oh!!!,,,,,Air-cleaner top should be chrome on an L82 powered 78. I know as I used to take them for my trucks as they were the same size.

[JJEH]

Hi Bill, thanks for your posting.

Important for me is if the Car grade up with original Parts or not.

And if the Car have any build ups, who was the guy that build up the Car, you know. Did he know what he do?

I´m a Master Craftsman (currently seeking for a job in the u.s., incidentally) and i don´t like any faulty Tuning with any mistake Tuningparts...

That´s why are the detailed Infos so important for me...

[olredalert]

-------Stroker,,,Without seeing this car in person I really couldnt venture any guess as to its history. Sorry I cant be of more help........Bill S

[JJEH]

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-------Stroker,,,Without seeing this car in person I really couldnt venture any guess as to its history. Sorry I cant be of more help........Bill S

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Bill, thanks a lot. You are right. Your comment was very helful for me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

You must have seen a Car in person!

I did send a inquiry to the dealer relating to VIN, NoM and milage...

Now we will see http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[JJEH]

Here´s the answer from the Dealer:

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Hello Mr. Hofknecht

I've attached photos of the trim tag and door stickers.

the VIN # is 1z8748s905160. Clean title in hand, will clear customs with no problems.

The owner drives the car fairly often - he rotates his collection, so he'll keep this car at his house and drive for a week or 2, and then do the same with another car. And, he has a part time mechanic who keeps his fleet operable. I've driven the car also, and it runs very nicely. It passed the California smog check, which is a good indicator that it runs well.

the engine isn't the original one, although it has all of the correct accessories. 22 k miles, not sure if original or not. The car is clean enough to indicate 22k, but I don’t have enough data to guarantee it.

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Mmmh, carfax goes down to 1981 with the VIN... how we can proof it the History?