67 ZL1 ?

[Carleen]

Found this block at ebay.
Is casting date from -67?
Black Panther ZL1 engine?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...3&viewitem= (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120352175724&sspagenam e=ADME%3AB%3AFSEL%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=)

[olredalert]

------A person would be wise to do his due diligence when dealing with this vendor!!!!!!........Bill S

[scuncio]

What are those marks on the deck above #3 and #7?

[William]

What ever that is it isn't a casting date. With the exception of ZL-1 Camaros #1 & #2 [which had pilot engines built in Flint] production blocks were cast in '69.

The dimpling on the deck is a crude attempt to achieve better head gasket sealing. Indicates a larger problem.

At second glance I'm not certain that is a production ZL-1 block. There is no snowflake and it does not appear to have provision for a mechanical fuel pump. Hmm...

[Kim_Howie]

Looks like a can am block??

[HiHorse]

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------A person would be wise to do his due diligence when dealing with this vendor!!!!!!........Bill S

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Has bought stuff from me, his word and $ was good.

[Carleen]

Ok, I thought that those marks where after they trying to loose tension at the block.

Nikke

[Carleen]

I was thinking about this, -67 Black Panther.

Gorries offered both the 327 and 427 V-8 engine options for their Panthers. The basic 327 had 210 HP. The 275HP L30 engine, at 10:1 compression made 355FT pounds of torque at 3,200 RPM. The optional blueprinted 427 - 435HP, ZL1 engine with its neck snapping 460FT pounds of torque at 4,000 RPM put some real teeth in the Panthers. At 12:1 compression, the ZL1 engine with its large 925 CFM 4-barrel carburetor proved to be a formal opponent for the Shelby GT-500 Mustangs, which carried the 428 big-block Ford engine, but only developed 355HP in 1967.

http://dibn.net/AutoLegends/

[Jerry@CHP]

Does not have the bolt-in cam plug either. Looks to me like someone ground off the Winters logo. We can fix that for the next owner. Done about two dozen so far. LOL.

I'm sure that this block won't pass a pressure test either. Nothing that $$$ can't fix.

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Here are two good ones!

Jerry

[Carleen]

It have same marks underneath.
Ive have those at my iron block too.

Nikke

[Carleen]

Ive asked Cranes Corvette for more and better pictures.


Nikke

[owners2]

I've bought from him before.Besides the fact he gave me some attitude at first all went well with my transaction & i was very satisfied with what i bought.

[TDW]

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Here are two good ones!

Jerry

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Beautiful, just beautiful!

[1969grb]

Bill S, Now why would you say that? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
Grady

[scuncio]

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It have same marks underneath.
Ive have those at my iron block too.

Nikke

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Those look like classic peening marks intended to tighten up the fit of the main caps to the block. Seen that many times.

[Carleen]

No suffix code.
The pad is blank. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Nikke

[olredalert]

-----Grady,,,A customer of mine bought a car from him that was vastly misrepresented,,,mainly. That and years of experiences with him. I do have to say that some of Davids repro stuff is absolutely great, big-block valve covers and 63 Corvette consoles come to mind......Bill S

[Carleen]

I was asking about better photos.
This is the answer.

of what feature?

Businessman? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Nikke

[1969grb]

Bill, I know what you mean. I also agree his big block valve covers are very nice. Grady http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[VintageMusclecar]

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What are those marks on the deck above #3 and #7?

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Notice those cylinders are the ones where the "extra" head bolt(s) were intended to go (no provisions for bolts in those locations on a standard pass. car block, they were added for race applications--note the bosses in the lifter valley where the fasteners would go into the bottom of the head)

Since this was a very common location for a head gasket to let go if the "extra" head bolts weren't used, some racers dimpled the deck here in an attempt to give the head gasket something to bite into to prevent them from blowing out.

[Jerry@CHP]

We haven't used the extra bolt holes on the ZL-1 engines that we've built in the past. No need to if the engine is built right with the correct head gasket. We dyno all ZL-1 engines that are built a CHP to make sure there are no issues.

Jerry

[Carleen]

http://www.guinns-engineering.com/Palcahanes%20Prototype%20ZL1.htm

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Nikke