FOURTY !!!!! Mile (40 mile) Survivor 1980 Z-28

[CamarosRus]

FOURTY !!!!! Mile (40 mile) Survivor 1980 Z-28 on EBAY......

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Truc...A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1980-Camaro-Z28-Only-40-Yes-40-Actual-Miles-T-Tops_W0QQitemZ200292271266QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truck sQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash= item200292271266&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=6 5%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

Alledged never driven 1980 Z-28. The misc metal finishes appear much nicer than most other survivors. Look at the Yellow Zinc, some of the Phosphated fasteners, etc........Hardly a sign of rust...

Figured this crowd would enjoy it or tear it apart ???????

Difficult for me to understand why a 1980 Z-28 was chosen, but at any time or place in history, how does one know which "piece" will be popular down the road.

[gb70]

The second car I ever owned was a dark blue on dark blue 1980 Z-28. I will be watching this one.

[CC Rider]

Wow! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

I buddy owned an '80 LM1 4 speed car. It was a great running car for the time.

[CamarosRus]

Mokena,Il.............anybody close enough to LOOK at car !!!

Please send me P.M.

[1969z280]

Chuxck:

If you're interested in the car, feel free to give Joe a call. I've known him for about five or six years. He is extremely straight-forward and honest. He has helped me a lot with some purchases that he had no involvement with. I think that you'll be surprised as he's not your typical high pressure dealer. I think he's a car guy first. Ed

[Bad Brad]

I bet they want 40K-45K for that car?

[iluv69s]

I believe this may be the car that was next to my 70RS Z at Super Chevy Maple Grove in 2003....how many ultra low mile black 80 Z's are out there???
it was real nice, but I did not think it was fair that I was in the same class as a 1980 Camaro....

..as it turned out, I won first in class and the 80 Z took second place...and was definitely in nicer condition than my car...???

[Late BrakeU2]

Don't we know someone who picked up a 70 in that area with the sheet still on the pumpkin?

[SS427]

Interesting. The castle nut on the center link is installed backwards............

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Interesting. The castle nut on the center link is installed backwards............

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is there even a cotter pin in there?

[BJCHEV396]

40 MILES!!?? BUYER BEWARE!!

[1969z280]

Bill:

Why should the buyer beware? You don't think an assembly line worker could have put a castle nut on backwards? Of course, the Quality Control Supervisor would have caught it prior to delivery. LOL! You wouldn't have believed how my new 1982 showed up. That's one Killer Z/28 and it will be at my house if it doesn't go too much higher. Ed

[JJEH]

nice car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[bad1racing]

That is not a castle nut as we know it.That is a no cotter pin nut that has the dimples on it so that it wont back off after tightened.
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[juliosz]

Bill,
I have to agree with you. I bought a brand new 79 Z and it was without a doubt the worst build quality car I have ever owned. My favorite issue with the car was the 1st and 2nd gear linkage rod fell off on my way home from work one night. I don't know if the CA built cars were any better in that late 70's, early eighties era but the Norwood cars were awful.

[CC Rider]

They are some kind of flare nut. Saw them many times when replacing idler arms, center links, and tie rod ends when I used to turn wrenches back then.

No cotter pin needed.

[SS427]

Upon closer examination of the nut I see what you are talking about. Initially it looked like a castle nut but now I see the dimples. Wish they used this type in earlier years.

[CamarosRus]

The question remains.........how collectable, how valuble????

What are/were some other collector car, speculation failures??????or surprises??????

[gb70]

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The question remains.........how collectable, how valuble????

What are/were some other collector car, speculation failures??????or surprises??????

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One failure comes to mind, how about the 1978 Corvette 25th year anniversary Pace Car. I knew guys that broke the bank in '78 to buy the first ones (way over sticker) and kept them in the garage and put little mileage on them. They still don't bring the money all hoped for.

As for the value of this vehicle now and the future. I would guess between 35-45k but it all depends who wants it and how bad. Hard to compare since I have not heard of any like it exactly.

[Late BrakeU2]

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The question remains.........how collectable, how valuble????

What are/were some other collector car, speculation failures??????or surprises??????

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The 10th anni T/A's were about the only spec play future collector cars from that era-low production,last year of the big block. I have seen a few of those with less miles and in better condition go for around 50k in better times.

Not trying to pick pepper out of fly sheet but better condition means less patina and still has all the plant shipping cardboard and interior wrap. If I had to guess it hasn't been in a climate controlled enviroment it's whole life. Still it's a nicely optioned car,in the right color. Would be surprised to see it get much north of 35-40k and it prolly won't hit reserve at that. GM built 45 thousand of these and only 1100 or so W72 10th T/A's-neither were heralded for giving neck strains in the 1/4 mile.

As far as spec busts IMO the 90-91 ZR1's qualify. I remember people getting 50k for a place in line + the cost of the car to be the first kid on the block with one,so that was a 100k and now they are half that for one like this 80Z nearly twenty years later.

[92646]

I think Charley should put this in his collection and park it next to his 1970 Z/28 to show both ends of the 2nd generation Camaro model run.
Mark Sheppard

[bad1racing]

Rick,I personally like the old stuff better as you remove the cotter pin and take the nut off.The one in the picture when you take it off you are supposed to put a new one back on (not reuse the old one).I've seen many a mechanic put the old one back on,but it just doesn't seem to have the locking ability as when it was new.

As for the car it looks nice.

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[Charley Lillard]

I think the car is great and have no reason to doubt that the miles are real. What takes some of the specialness away for me is the fact that it was probably bought and put away because someone figured it was going to be a collector car. It is the ones like my 70 that got put away for other reasons that do it for me. There have been a few cars like this one with no miles that show up at the auctions lately.

[mnyenko]

This same car sold on Ebay a few years back. It was purchased new in MN. The seller claimed to have bought the car new on a bet. He told his friends he was thinking of buying a new car and selling it twenty years later for a profit. They said he would never really do it. So he did and stored the car in his garage with kitty litter under it. Earl

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

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I think the car is great and have no reason to doubt that the miles are real. What takes some of the specialness away for me is the fact that it was probably bought and put away because someone figured it was going to be a collector car. It is the ones like my 70 that got put away for other reasons that do it for me. There have been a few cars like this one with no miles that show up at the auctions lately.

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I agree Charlie,

Nothing can match the story of Doris the crazy door ding lady. That alone is worth a cool MIL.

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[azcamaros]

mnyenko, thanks for "jogging" my memeory. This car was sold on Ebay back in 2003 and it only had 23 miles on it then. The story in that add was the original owners home was approx. 20 miles from the dealer; he drove it home, put it up on jack stands and covered the floor with kitty litter. If my memory is correct it sold for around $26K back then, do you remember the final number?

[Jonesy]

I remember the car also. The first time it was for sale they wanted $25K for it with no takers. Then a year or so later they wanted more for it. I dont recall the price. Sold out of Viking Chevrolet new.

[PeteLeathersac]

Cool w/ the low miles and all but for that kind've dough, there's sure some serious competition available in today's market that most here would be looking at purchasing first..

Always w/ these years Camaros and F'Birds, keep in mind that GM Canada Vintage Services has the original build documents available for the '77 and newer F-Body cars regardless of where they were built or sold new!.

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