Need some Critique on my 69

[Bad Brad]

I am getting ready for AACA Junior in February so I need some Critique on my engine area. I know its not perfect but what the heck try and not beat me up too bad.
This is my first Chevelle that I have done.
Yes I have the correct air cleaner and element.
If you need better pictures of an area let me know.
In one of the pictures I have a small amount of teflon tape on the power booster vacuum line elbow that goes into the intake manifold, should I remove all traces of it?

CLICK HERE for more pictures (http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z238/1badss396/Critique/)

[CC Rider]

Looks GREAT!

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z238/1badss396/Critique/P1010084.jpg
Make this red "danger" tag go away.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z238/1badss396/Critique/P1010089.jpg
Shouldn't the valve cover gaskets be silver?

Nice job! You should do well. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Bad Brad]

The valve cover gasket should be the cork. Funny you said something about it because I just changed it from the black rubber gasket today to the cork ones. LOL

Come on guys 69 views and only 1 reply so far, dont be bashfull http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[CC Rider]

[ QUOTE ]
The valve cover gasket should be the cork. Funny you said something about it because I just changed it from the black rubber gasket today to the cork ones. LOL

Come on guys 69 views and only 1 reply so far, dont be bashfull http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, cork, but silver.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm200/OneWayStreet_album/The%20Chevelle/PC280004.jpg

My car is far from fresh, but that gasket tab is still somewhat silver.

[njsteve]

Get rid of that red and white battery tag on the positive terminal. That is not vintage. It is a currently mandated warning tag. For some reason everyone leaves those on their cars.

Having that on there is like putting the Ford "CAUTION FAN" sticker on the radiator shroud.

Other than that, it looks great! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Bad Brad]

Why did the cork have a silver color to it? Was it something that GM sprayed on the cork before they installed the gasket??
The red and white battery tag on the terminal is gone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Chris_69_SS]

should the Z bar be black or cast?

very nice....sure wish mine looked like yours!

[CC Rider]

[ QUOTE ]
Why did the cork have a silver color to it? Was it something that GM sprayed on the cork before they installed the gasket??

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm sure folks just spray-paint the gaskets now. That's what I did with these years ago.

[Bad Brad]

When I removed the original Z bar from the car it had some kind of thick black paint (like EDP) when I cleaned it up.
The z bar was original to the car so I painted it black.

[ORIGLS6]

The heavy coating on the Z bar was probably paint, but it was most likely dipped. Probably had a run or two in it eh? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Just spray the cork gaskets silver. That's what everyone else does. I'm guessing it may have been an adhesive coating on the OE pieces.

NICE detail work. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

(BTW, I got beat up for the battery tag too. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

[mockingbird812]

Boy, your car really pops. Is that dusk blue? Not up on judging, but are repops permitted? i.e. brake booster http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[JoeG]

Car looks great-----But,Show Me the Money. Not the Teflon tape.....

[Bill Pritchard]

I'm not throwin' any stones at you, Brad http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif That looks absolutely superb to me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif When I got my car, it still had the original gaskets on the valve covers, and they were a silver color. One of the repro vendors actually sells them that way, but I don't remember which one. Not sure if it was originally some type of adhesive/sealant or what, but there had to be some reason for it to be on there. Since cork is not naturally silver in color, that meant an additional step (read: $$$) in the mfg process.

[Mr. Chevy]

The silver colored valve cover gaskets noted that the motor was a high perf. motor.. Just don't make the same mistake I did.. After adjusting the rockers (due to the solid lifter cam) I made the mistake of painting both sides of the cork gasket silver. I had one hell of a time getting the valve covers back off the head about a year later when I went back to adjust the rockers again.. The paint on the cork gaskets stuck to the head surface like super glue.. Only paint the side that will be mating to the valve cover itself..

Classic Industries sells the silver colored gaskets but I was not going to spend that kind of money.. Going to the parts store and picking up an inexpensive cork set and buzz can them silver is the way to go....

Engine bay looks great!!

Rich http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

[ QUOTE ]
The silver colored valve cover gaskets noted that the motor was a high perf. motor

[/ QUOTE ]

Rich,

Not sure about that one as my car is a 325hp 396.

[Mr. Chevy]

Bill, thats what I always heard.. But it could be just some type of sealant that was on the big block gaskets..

Brad, I agree with the others, the teflon tape has to go, you don't need it those fitting will seal just fine w/o it. The battery tag needs to go and it also looked to me like there was a GM sticker on the washer bottle.. I would probably take that off also...

Do you have that hard to find and often misplaced little wire bracket on the very far back, left (drivers side) head that holds the oil pressure wire, if the car was non mechanical gauges and electrical?? I could not see from the picture in there but it looked like it was there holding the blue wire....

Like the battery stamps and the original oil dipstick!!

I would wish you good luck but I don't think you will need it.. You will do great!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Rich

[Bad Brad]

[ QUOTE ]
Car looks great-----But,Show Me the Money. Not the Teflon tape.....

[/ QUOTE ]Teflon tape is gone http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Bad Brad]

[ QUOTE ]
Boy, your car really pops. Is that dusk blue? Not up on judging, but are repops permitted? i.e. brake booster http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Yes the car is Dusk Blue. That's the original Brake Booster and even the lid is original.
We went over the lids and covered alot of info about them with Don Lightfoot. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Bad Brad]

[ QUOTE ]
Bill, thats what I always heard.. But it could be just some type of sealant that was on the big block gaskets..

Brad, I agree with the others, the teflon tape has to go, you don't need it those fitting will seal just fine w/o it. The battery tag needs to go and it also looked to me like there was a GM sticker on the washer bottle.. I would probably take that off also...

Do you have that hard to find and often misplaced little wire bracket on the very far back, left (drivers side) head that holds the oil pressure wire, if the car was non mechanical gauges and electrical?? I could not see from the picture in there but it looked like it was there holding the blue wire....

Like the battery stamps and the original oil dipstick!!

I would wish you good luck but I don't think you will need it.. You will do great!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Rich

[/ QUOTE ]
Oh no the GM sticker on the washer bottle has to go http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif funny is all the shows I have been to so far like my washer bottle parts sticker, LOL

So you like my dip stick that was a pain in the arse, if you look at some of my other pictures you will see a repop dip stick, I did have another original dip stick that had the pink tip so what I did was remove the repop dip stick and hammered it into the flat original one that I had and switched out the tips. The hard part was breaking off the shorter dip stick inside the handle of the original pink tip but they are shorter and will not get a correct oil level. Once that was out it was easy switching them out even the cup with gasket comes off. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Yes I do have my original clip that holds the oil pressure wire.

[Bad Brad]

My car is a 350 HP car so do I need to have silver cork valve cover gaskets or not???
Bill raised some doubt??
My car is not a L78 or copo I wish it was.

[Mr70]

I would include the silver cork V/gaskets on it,as Hi-perf L-34,35 & the Spcl. Hi-perf L-78 got them.BB Truck engines received them too.
For some reason I can't get all your pics to appear.

[Jerry@CHP]

The Mr. Gasket V/C gaskets work very well, PN#177. We paint them silver and install. Used them on the last two ZL-1 engines that we built and all big blocks here at CHP. Have been using their products for years. Good stuff!

Get a correct "S" rivet oil cap for the valve cover too. Too many rings on yours. Rick's First Gen sells them.

Engine bay looks great!

Good luck,

Jerry

[Ls6 Ragtop]

Brad,
All factory valve cover gaskets for BB engines were silver painted cork regardless of HP rating. Besides the other suggestions, I would look for a correct oil fill cap and not sure if AACA will catch this, but I don't think your upper front control arm shafts used the threaded ends with a nut. Chevelles usually have bolt on retainers for the upper bushings. Pontiacs and probably Buick and Olds used the style you have but I don't think Chevy did in 69. They definately do not use them on 70's. It looks as if your alternator fan could be incorrect as well, kind of hard to tell from the angle of your pics. If you need pics of the correct oil filler cap or any of the other parts I mentioned send me a PM or email and I'll forward you some. Are you going to the AACA show in Lakeland FL in Feb? If so I'll look you up as I intend to show a car there as well.
Regards, Chris

[mockingbird812]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif guess I need some more learnin'. Always thot the "Delco Moraine" was upside down and on the driver's side on the originals.

Standing by for educationhttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif !



BTW, your engine bay looks fantastic Brad! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Jerry@CHP]

Sam,

That is correct for 1969. The DM should be in the 8:00 position looking at the booster, standing in front of the car.

Jerry

[kwhizz]

I always thought that the Silver Gaskets were for Engines with Chrome Valve covers.....The Silver made them less visable........... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Rixls6]

I believe the upper control arm shafts are supposed to have a 3/8-24 bolt on the ends, not nuts.

Are the screws that hold the wire gutter to the firewall supposed to be hex head or phillips head like I think I see?

Other than the minor stuff, it looks great Brad.

[Jerry@CHP]

I worked at a well known Chevy dealer back in the early 1970s and the GM BB gaskets were silver as far back as I can remember. The originals were very cheap and brittle.

Jerry

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]
I worked at a well known Chevy dealer back in the early 1970s and the GM BB gaskets were silver as far back as I can remember. The originals were very cheap and brittle.

Jerry

[/ QUOTE ]

Even my '66 L72 in the Vette has silver gaskets.

[Bad Brad]

Chris I am going to the going to the AACA show in Lakeland FL in Feb. we should hook up while their, Also did you know their is another show on Feb 2 at Old Town by Ecklers its a 1000 point show.
I bought my car from the original owner and my car had the bolt on upper control arm nuts on it and the original owner said it was that way when he bought it new.
My car was built in Baltimore 2nd week 1969. I have also seen another car that was built 100 cars down the line with the same upper shaft nuts.
Might have been the plant ran out of the other shafts so they slapped a set of OBP uppers on a bunch of cars not to stop production?
I will look up Ricks for the correct oil cap.

[Bad Brad]

Is this the correct oil cap from Ricks Item# RC-98
From the picture on his site I cant see the S rivet?

http://www.rickscamaros.com/product.asp?pf_id=RC-98&dept_id=3227

[wheelhop]

It looks correct but like you said can't see the S on the rivet.

[JJEH]

great job http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[ORIGLS6]

Could be a better shot but here's the oil cap you're looking for.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/dmcumby/SCap.jpg

A closer look at the rivet.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/dmcumby/DSCF0074-4.jpg

[Bad Brad]

The one I have on my car now has the S rivet on it but it has too many round circles on the inside of the cover. I guess I will call Ricks camaro and see if that one has the S on the rivet.

Edit: I called Ricks Camaro and it does have the S on the rivet.

[Jerry@CHP]

Brad,

Chris is correct about the upper a-arm shafts. All Chevelles got the large washer and 5/16 x 24" bolts that hold the bushings in place. I bought a new SS396 Chevelle and it was built in Feb 1969 in Baltimore. Camaros, Chevelles and Novas were all the same. No exceptions. Those large nut a-arm shafts started in the early 1970s and were also sold at parts stores to get more caster and camber out of the upper arms. The parts store versions had more offset.

Jerry

[Bad Brad]

So I would need to get a set of original upper control arm shafts, bushings and cups ,bolts, lock washers.

[Mr. Chevy]

Here is a photo of an untouched, unmolested 69 Chevelle BB engine bay. You can see the bolt and washer size, difference on the upper control arm on the drivers side.. Hope this helps you... Picture is not the greatest...

Rich

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/RICHRUTT/Picture1964.jpg

[Bad Brad]

I have seen other unrestoted 69 cars with the big nut on the control shaft that have never been touched. And I have seen the small bolt set up as well.
I even talked to a few other people that have seen this as well.
I have a set being sent to me from John Watts.

[Mr. Chevy]

I've always said, just when you think you have it down, along comes something to prove you wrong.. Just like you said, you have seen it both ways.. Whatever was on the assembly line that day is what the worker used.. Sometimes you see some odd stuff that was used and is original..

Rich

[bkhpah]

The Delco Morane stamping on the power boosters I have seen are all over the board. From very faint stampings to none at all. I have also seen the DM logo in the 2 o'clock position on unmolested low mile cars. While, not typical, they are made that way. Just like the differences in font size in the date and application code. Just to many variables during the model year to say it could only be one way. Also the pinch clamps on the PCV valve should have squared off ends. The kind that rip your finger's open square. Later style pinch clamps used a rounded end. Much more finger friendly..BKH http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[firstgenaddict]

I have seen the larger style upper control arm shafts with the nut on the A bodies before...

[Jerry@CHP]

I have never seen any large nut shafts on any survivors or cars that I've known going back almost 40 years. Those large nut shafts were swapped out many times in the 1970s for added front end alignment adjustments.

Now that these cars are 40 years old, it's almost impossible to document one unless it's an original owner car or two owner car.

Jerry

[JoeG]

I have those large nuts on my '69 SS 396 Chevelle--(I'm the original owner) natural metal color........

[Jerry@CHP]

Joe,

I was an original SS396 Chevelle owner until 1993. Yours would be the first that I know of.........what plant was it built?

Jerry

[JoeG]

Framingham,Mass.----late May'69..

[Xplantdad]

Jerry... This is the car Joe is talking about! (http://www.yenko.net/features/2004/July2004.htm)

[Jerry@CHP]

Mine was a Baltimore car. I'll have to check the parts books and assm manual to see what is called out. Hard to believe that this would be a plant variation. All Kansas City cars that I've seen are like the Balto cars. All Camaros built at both assm plants are the same with large washers and 5/16 bolts.

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Bruce,

A one owner Motion SS Chevelle with docs. Wow! Not many around like this I'm sure.

Joe, did you ever race this car? I grew up 15 minutes away from Motion in N. Massapequa. Used to go over there when I was just barely a teenager. It was a happening place back then.

Jerry

[JoeG]

Unless Motion swapped them out when front spring lifts were put in............

[TDW]

FWIW..My 69, 06D, Bal built, survivor type car has the washer and bolt like the picture Rich posted.

[Jerry@CHP]

Here's the mutt that I bought. L89, M22, chambered 4.10 rear, etc.

The Nova in the photo belonged to a buddy of mine. Had a .060" 427 that ran 11.00s on 8" tires. Was a very fast street racer!

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Here's another shot at Capital Raceway, early 1970s. Best the car ever went with 7" tires and 4.88s was in the 12.30s. Very heavy car.

The aluminum heads put the car in B/Stock instead of C/Stock which hurt the car in ET. Meant I had to run with the 375 hp Camaros.

Jerry

[TDW]

Nice launch!

[Jerry@CHP]

Here's another nice shot. My work shop in the early 1970's........parent's driveway. I still have that Ausco floor jack. Bought it in 1970 and still with me today and works better than all the new jacks that I own!

Don't make 'em like that anymore. Just noticed that my parents 1966 Plymouth SW is in the back ground. I have the WS to that gem too.

Jerry

[JoeG]

Ditto on the launch http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif photos--------I can't tell what color the Chevelle is..

[mockingbird812]

Great photos Jerry. Thanks!

[Jerry@CHP]

Joe,

Fathom green like just about every other 69 Chevelle. Very popular back then.

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Sam,

I have hundreds of photos from 1970 on with racing scrap books. I scanned in many of the photos this past year. I'll have to find more to post. Never knew that many of my buddies took so many pictures.

The new D/Stock 67 Z28 race car that I just finished was at Capital every week back then. In those days, no one knew what a 67 Z28 was. Ray Fairall, the original owner and I became good friends back then and are still friends today.

I would get so frustrated that his little 302 could run with my big block Chevelle in C/Stock!

Those were the days.

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Here's another gem from the early 1970's. Tow car before my designated '69 Z28 tow car that I bought in 1972.......my girl friend's 67 Mustang fastback. Can't believe it was safe to pull that big Chevelle with a 289 Mustang.

Jerry

[Xplantdad]

Wow Jerry...some cool pics! Ya gotta love the tow tabs sticking out of the front of your Chevelle.

As far as Joe's Chevelle...what can I say but it was http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif cool! Joe's a great guy as well http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Please keep the pictures coming...I LOVE this stuff!

If I had a bit more time...I'd take you up on the picture posting help. Are the pics in slides...or are they actual pictures? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

If they are pictures...I might be able to help you out.

[JoeG]

Yep,--Great photos--------keep'em comin'...

[Jerry@CHP]

Bruce,

I have to crop down my photos that I've scanned because they are too big......about 200KB. Once I learn how to shrink them, I can post a lot of stuff that I have. Ken Tibor helped me post the great shot of Old Reliable at the Vegas race in 2005. I am going to send him all of the drag photos that I have from T. Bishop from the mid 60's as he's agreed to scan and post on this site.

Wish I knew you guys were into the fun part of the hobby (drag racing) years ago. I would have spent more time here.

Happy New Year,

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Here's another but I had to crop it quite a bit so I could post. I don't ever remember looking that young! March 1973.

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Found an engine bay shot, early 1970's. You can tell that I didn't leave it bone stock for long. Nice red heater hose??? What was I thinking?

I think the smog eq lasted about a month before it was ditched.

Jerry

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

Jerry,
Great pics,can't wait to see more.Would like to see a picture of your 69Z towing the Chevelle.

[CC Rider]

I know that car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jerry, I'll have to dig up my Super Chevy Maple Grove pics I took in the 80's of your Chevelle.

[Jerry@CHP]

Mark,

Found it, here it is. In color too.

Jerry

[Bad Brad]

This thread sure did get slightly off topic http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Ok some update pictures tomorrow round 2 of the beating http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[camarojoe]

[ QUOTE ]
This thread sure did get slightly off topic http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Ok some update pictures tomorrow round 2 of the beating http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes it certainly did.. My apologies to you Brad for not noticing earlier. Jerry, if you want to post exterior pics of your Chevelle and whatever else, please start a new thread and keep this one on track. -JB

[Jerry@CHP]

Joe,

Sorry about that. Somehow we got side tracked talking about the upper control arm shafts.

Jerry

[Bad Brad]

Sorry no new pictures today I was lazy, get some tomorrow.

[Jerry@CHP]

Brad,

Were you able to find an oil cap?

Jerry

[Jerry@CHP]

Forgot, I have them at my shop because we do so many big block engine rebuilds. Let me know if you can't find one.

Also, do you have the nice Crane reproduction valve covers? They are $$$ but right on the money. Only thing you have to do on the 69 Crane covers is install the rubberizing material on the lower clip.

Jerry

[Bad Brad]

I found an oil cap. I know the crane valve covers are big $$ how much are they now days?
I made my temp sensor clip for the valve cover.
I had to go cheap some place. LOL

Now to get up off my lazy arse and take some new pictures.

[Jerry@CHP]

Year One had a special running on those covers. 20% off, put them in the $300+ range. You still need to rubber dip the clip. That liquid rubber is available at Home Depot. Did you do that on the clip that you have on the current valve covers?

Good luck,

Jerry

[SS4Real]

Jerry,

Whose valve cover gaskets are you using for those valve covers?

[Jerry@CHP]

Mr. Gasket #177, paint them silver and you're good to go.

Jerry

[Bad Brad]

I have some of the liquid rubber I can do it with.
Well I was going to take some pictures but my batteries are dead and now charging up. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Bad Brad]

Any one have a picture of the dipped clip on the valve cover with it attached?

[CC Rider]

[ QUOTE ]
Any one have a picture of the dipped clip on the valve cover with it attached?

[/ QUOTE ]

Does this help?

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm200/OneWayStreet_album/The%20Chevelle/PC310003.jpg

Rubber insulation fell off years ago. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Bad Brad]

That's perfect thanks.

[CC Rider]

Hey Brad.

I checked out your garage link on Team Chevelle. You really need to post some of those gorgeous '69 pics here too! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Bad Brad]

Where do I post my jalopy at? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[CC Rider]

Well, if you want it featured in the Members' Rides section, PM xplantdad and he'll give you an email addy to email photos and a write-up.

Then he works his magic and puts a great post together. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BruceRocks.gif

[Mr. Chevy]

Are both clips rubberized on 1970 Valve covers?? Pass. side for the TCs Green Wire an Drivers Side for the Temp??

Rich

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
Well, if you want it featured in the Members' Rides section, PM xplantdad and he'll give you an email addy to email photos and a write-up.

Then he works his magic and puts a great post together.

[/ QUOTE ]


Yeah....What Rick said! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Bad Brad]

Ok made a new clip, so what do you think?
All I need to do is dip it in the liquid rubber now.

From This:

All pictures here (http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z238/1badss396/Valve%20Cover%20Temp%20Clip/)

[CC Rider]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[704EVER]

I think the whole thing looks terrible and you should start over again!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Bad Brad]

At least my wife thinks I am talented http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Donnie]

are you sure??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Brad, are you bring the car to C.B. this year?

[Bad Brad]

I plan on going to CB09 this year.

[rockn69]

Brad, don't do what I did before Chevy Vette Fest and drag a cloth across the valve covers and knock off the tabs. To make it look even I knocked the rest of them off. They could have been pink and nobody would have known. Your bay looks great! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Bad Brad]

Ok I have some updated pictures now.
Replaced the oil cap and has the S on the rivet., removed the battery warning sticker, installed new temp sensor clip on valve cover and valve cover gaskets are silver now. Teflon tape is removed,I am still undecided about the GM sticker on the washer bottle
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I did not change the upper control arm shafts because that is what the car had on them when I got it and its a 1 owner car and was told that is the way it was when bought.

Updated Pictures Here (http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z238/1badss396/Critique/UpDate/)

[CC Rider]

Looks great, let us know how you do. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Donnie]

Brad,
take the chrome trim off the seat sides.
only the seat backs get chrome trim.

[Bad Brad]

Donnie I just noticed it today when I was cleaning my car and I forgot to remove the chrome trim http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
I will be sure to get it off there tomorrow, thanks for reminding me.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

I've been reading this thread from the beginning but holding off on comment.
Well, you seem to be going through a lot of worry over an AACA show. I could see you maybe worrying about a Chev Vette-Fest show or some other specialized venue for your type of car...........but NOT an AACA show. Paint the air cleaner orange; they won't know the difference. Just make it clean and shiny. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[mockingbird812]

So, Verne, the a/c is NOT suppose to be orange? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[Bad Brad]

Verne, I am going to 17th Annual Winter National show first and it is a 1000 point judged show, then I am going to the AACA show the same month since they are both in my area.
I figure since I took the time to put all this effort into my car I might as well see how well I do for all the sweat and blood I shed on this project. All the shows I have done so far 5 of them I have either won 1st place or best of show and that was before I have done these corrections to the car.

17th Annual Winter National
Old Town, Kissimmee, FL
Hosted by:
Classic Camaro of Central Florida
2/5/2009 - 2/8/2009
17th Annual Winter National (http://www.classicchevy.com/car_shows.asp?site=TRI5&showid=28&page=1)

Then off to the AACA show.
Southeastern Winter National Meet AACA show in Lakeland Florida it is Feb 22-09. (http://www.aaca.org/meets/brochures/Lakeland_FL_2009.pdf) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Jerry@CHP]

Brad,

Both VCCA and ACCA will only check fit finish and paint. Generic judging. They will not know about any of the technical corrections that you're making. Most of the judges will be owners of others kinds of cars at the same meet. Dont' sweat it.

If there is still any kind of Chevelle judging at the concours level, that is where I would channel this energy.

Good luck,

Jerry

[Bad Brad]

Then I am also going to try for a senior award in 2-5 - Charlotte, NC - Southeastern National Spring Meet.

And after that one I am going to the ACES CB09 in June.
I figure what the heck at least try for something.
I know my car is not perfect so I figure and see how well it does or how well I did on the car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
I have nothing better else to do with my time.

[ORIGLS6]

[ QUOTE ]
Both VCCA and ACCA will only check fit finish and paint. Generic judging. They will not know about any of the technical corrections that you're making. Most of the judges will be owners of others kinds of cars at the same meet. Don't sweat it.

If there is still any kind of Chevelle judging at the concours level, that is where I would channel this energy.



[/ QUOTE ]

Even at CB 09 about the best you can expect is a "Top 3" in your class. They don't (or didn't the last time I was there) give First, Second, Third Place; just "Top Three" in each class.
You can probably get better "Judging" right here by the Members on this site, but if you truly care about this sort of thing and want a 'Certificate' contact Chris White or Jeff Dotterer. The're the Go-To guys for Chevelles.

[Verne_Frantz]

Brad,
You're certainly on the right course by trying to make the car as correct as possible (and asking here is the right place). I just meant you didn't need to hurry to sweat those details for an AACA show. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Bad Brad]

Chris White or Jeff Dotterer are going to this show and going to hook up with them while they are there.
About the only other thing I need for the is my date coded horns which are being sent to me from Gary at the Horn Works and the correct tires and "smallhurst" just took care of that for me today and got them ordered. Thanks Rusty http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[wheelhop]

CB 09 is a popularity wote and as said before they take the top 3 vote getters in each class 69 stock or 69 modified.