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mockingbird812
01-07-2009, 11:55 PM
Thanks! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Jacsey 70Z
01-08-2009, 12:32 AM
That would be a 270.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL17/1627096/5979015/92115899.jpg

mockingbird812
01-08-2009, 01:06 AM
Thanks Jack.

Anyone have one for sale?

CamarosRus
01-08-2009, 02:04 AM
Jack Seymour ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

If his Camaro doesnt go down as the most documented photographed 70 Z in history......

No other 70 Z owner has ever acheived what Jack has in terms of photographing, cleaning, detailing of a survivor 70 Z.

In spite of Charleys teriffic, ultra low milage Z, Jack's car has more appeal to me, as it better demonstrates how it left the factory.........(with out all the undercoat)

Mr. Chevy
01-08-2009, 02:44 AM
Sam, they pop up on e-bay from time to time.. Not to bad to find..

Rich

TDW
01-08-2009, 02:53 AM
When I did my 70 Z28, I bought a 270 from Goat Hill. Wasn't too much money, if I remember correctly.

Verne_Frantz
01-08-2009, 03:52 AM
You have no guarantee that a coil from Goat Hill has internals that match the externals. Generic coils that are "re-canned".
If you roll the car in and out of the trailer-OK, but if you drive the car, find an original that passes the primary and secondary resistance checks.
Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

70 Forest Green Zee
01-09-2009, 06:14 AM
Sam....here's one on EBay right now. This guy is reputable, I've bought things from him before...I believe Darren buys from him also.

Item# 270320024938

mockingbird812
01-09-2009, 08:26 AM
Thanks Darren. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

John Brown
01-09-2009, 07:03 PM
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Sam....here's one on EBay right now. This guy is reputable, I've bought things from him before...I believe Darren buys from him also.

Item# 270320024938

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...8&viewitem= (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay .com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_tr ksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D270320024938%26fvi%3D1&item =270320024938&viewitem=)

If you check, I think you'll find that this seller reproduces everything under the sun.

Jacsey 70Z
01-09-2009, 11:28 PM
Looks like it says 12V instead of B-R wonder what the difference is if any or is it just a change made in the later ones.

Salvatore
01-10-2009, 01:00 AM
I believe the numbers on the coil only really designate the type (offset)the bracket has.

Mr70
01-10-2009, 11:15 PM
Those really stood for the last 3 digits of the part.i.e. Coil #1115293.
I've seen em embossed 12V,some 12-V,some BR and some B-R.
Why I don't know,but all have been found to have been used on the line as original equipment.

Schonyenko2
01-11-2009, 08:00 AM
Just in passing. LT/1's in deuces, although they're stamped as a Z28 motor, use a 293.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
01-29-2009, 09:06 PM
Schoneye is correct, the LT1's in Deuces were all 293's.

mockingbird812
01-29-2009, 10:52 PM
Any thots Marlin on why 293s for the LT1s in Deuces and 270s for LT1s in Zs and vettes? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Salvatore
01-29-2009, 11:20 PM
Sam, those numbers are for the use of the assembly line workers to put the correct coil bracket on the correct car for hood clearance and air cleaner clearance etc I believe. I think there were maybe 3 different types of bracket angles. The 69 Z/28's took a 298 coil. Same as the 293 but that number determined the bracket offset. The guys at the CRG Site or maybe Jerry MacNeish or Brian Henderson can explain it better.

mockingbird812
01-29-2009, 11:22 PM
So Sam, you're saying that maybe the Deuces had different (more) hood clearance than the vettes and Zs and the 293 or 270 would dictate the bracket angle thereby providing appropriate clearance?

Salvatore
01-30-2009, 12:03 AM
Believe me Sam, I am NO expert but I think that would be correct. The coils 293 and 298 I believe have the same ratings. I am not sure if the 270 coil is a hair shorter than the others or not. My 69 SS nova has the 293 coil on it. My Z has the 298 coil with the flat hood. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Mr70
01-30-2009, 04:40 AM
I don't think that's right.
Embossed ignition coil numbers were not calling out the bracket offset for the vehicle they were going into,but rather an abbreviation for the last 3 digits of the actual Delco full seven digit part #.
In general,what set coils apart was the difference in the resistance wire they were wrapped with internally.
#202 coils measured 1.8 OHMs,#238 coils measured 1.3 OHMs,etc.

Chevrolet did use different coil mounting brackets w/varying angles,so using the examples above:
A 1969 Nova SS used a #1970344 coil mounting bracket.
A 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/flat hood used a #1971011 bracket.
A 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Cowl Ind. hood used a #1966876 bracket.
I've yet to see a coil body reflecting anything close to the above bracket numbers,but would like to hear from anyone who has.

Why the application difference between a #270 vs. #293 vs. #298 on essentially the same engine may have had something to do with static interference,(mast antenna vs. one imbedded in the windshield which began in 1970),or even an overheat issue in a specific vehicles engine bay,or something as miniscule as using up old inventory for a newly designed coil.
I'm trying to learn too..

Salvatore
01-30-2009, 04:45 AM
Keep me straight Rick! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif