Need Pic F body 12 bolt BE

[beater68427]

I pulled the 12 bolt out of the 68 Camaro, It is a late date code 68 I think it is oct I will have to look tonight, BE code Im guessing it is a 69 rear no vin on it, Has 4:88 gears currently, Im going to put 3:73's in and blast it, I wanted to see some pics with correct markings on axle tubes center brake drums etc, Also any ideas on the best place to get repo multi leafs, the springs in it have been modified with one extra leaf added to the rh side, so I thinking of changing them out, Or should I leave the vintage modifed stuff in??

[SuperNovaSS]

Get ready for some PMs!

[beater68427]

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif I just found out, Im very glad a good member told me what he believs it is.. Been a A body guy with only a few f bodies finding out things, guess its about time I spend my 25 bucks http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif

[mockingbird812]

He gets it! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[beater68427]

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He gets it! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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I Got It... Ok so now I came home to get a camera and go back to the Toy Box and snap a pic, I have a flood of for sale, I do not want to sell it untill I verify or figure out who built my car, that would be foolish, also my car is a street race bracket type car built what looks like late 68 to real early 69 I do not want to sell any parts rear end or glass over steel stinger hood. I say beater but it really is a decent car complete with a blown up 427 thats about it. the axle reads BE 1001G2 and looks crappy like the Burnish Brown RS COPO (Thanks Sam) Its Friday http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[beater68427]

Here is the stamp guys, Had alot of request for this...

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/beater42768003.jpg

The car is quite unique for those who have not read Did Bill Thomas build cars outside NICKEY, I really want to find some form of past on the car I have I know it has one of some sort, I asked it a couple times it just sat there like my fist wife......

[Mr70]

I see a multitude of D309 caps in your future..

[beater68427]

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I see a multitude of D309 caps in your future..

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I want my cap!!! The rear is going back where it came from with all the other odd stuff, thats where that cap was going also http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Salvatore]

Need some pictures of the car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[beater68427]

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Need some pictures of the car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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I put a pic of my wheels up... just a small start http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Jeff H]

I'm no expert on stampings but that sure looks like a BL rear that was restamped to BE. The date does not really fit into any kind of COPO car range either.

[beater68427]

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I'm no expert on stampings but that sure looks like a BL rear that was restamped to BE. The date does not really fit into any kind of COPO car range either.

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Not really sure could be I just pulled it out of my car, has two e's what is the second never seen it before lower and sideways the top of the E next to B is faint on top over the roll of the tube, so is the 0's and the 2, the lower sideways E is more along the tube and crisp, and my car is no copo, the date on casting is I-18-8, what ever it is it's going back where it came from when I change the gears out and clean it up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Unreal]

The lower E means it had an Eaton posi unit in it. Note that that E looks similar to the E in BE. Hard to tell from the angle, but I'd check it out anyway. Casting date seems early for COPO, though.

[deuce-less]

were some of the early yenko vins in january of 69?

perhaps JM or eric would have an opinion http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[beater68427]

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The lower E means it had an Eaton posi unit in it. Note that that E looks similar to the E in BE. Hard to tell from the angle, but I'd check it out anyway. Casting date seems early for COPO, though.

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I ran a pencil over the E for eaton today and the E in the BE they are identicle type set, but the E is deeper stamp on the eaton, most of the numbers on the tube seem to fade at top, Im guessing the roll of the tube?? I did pull it apart today to clean next week and set the gears up in it. I have not found anything on the internet that "BE" was to specific to "COPO" but just 4:10 gear ratio and possibly a service part??? I do not know I'm no expert on this. The car does have a multitude of what seems to be "counter parts" I just figured this was the same as well...

[Charley Lillard]

be http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384235-P1010004.JPG

[Charley Lillard]

another http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384237-BERear002.jpg

[beater68427]

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Your top E looks identicle with the deeb lower case and top fade, appers to be the same type set almost same looking stamp. well what ever mine is it's a 12 bolt....

[deuce-less]

the edge of the ring gear should have a GM part number on it if it's an original GM part, that number will tell the story. the posi carrier might have a three letter / numeral code stamped on edge of the ring gear flange or the counter weight pad on the top of the carrier.... that info will be helpfull in establishing more clues about the origins of the rear. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Jeff H]

Those BE stamps do look similar so probably not a restamped BL. The 1001 date code is incredibly early for a COPO car. The casting date lines up with the stamping date but the first COPO's were late Dec so if that rear is legit, it would be from a very early COPO most likely if not from a prototype. Has anyone seen a BE rear dated earlier than Dec? Could be an interesting find.

[beater68427]

I think the "E" looks deep in lower case as well as the "B" given the area of the tube it was hit, Charley's rear in pic the upper E was hit on the down side the eaton E was hit on the upper side giving one deep on lower case and one deep on upper case. Stamping a circumference with a smill die will give variance on direction hit and location, whether more parallel or vertical on the tube. A simple pencil scribe next to each other on paper will tell type set.

[69L72RS]

Alan,
I thought the 1st Yenko order was placed in Nov 1968 and the first cars were 01C or 01D bodies.

Does anyone know what rear dates were in the 1st two ZL1s?

[69L72RS]

Jeff,
The "BE" axle code is COPO 9560 and COPO 9561 specific. It was generated for those option packages.
The "BE" will only appear in box #258 on the broadcast (build) sheet. I will not appear on an order sheet or window sticker, beacuase it is part of the option package.

The internal HD parts were OTC in 1967, but not the complete axle assembly.
The only warranty service rear I have seen in a COPO had a blank tube and OTC internals.

Hope this info helps, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
Eric

[69L72RS]

Jeff,

Post a picture of the posi unit when you can, showing the posi internals.

Eric

[beater68427]

Eric will do probably this weekend, I was going to get one to Alan anyways, the car came with alot of parts in boxes that were inside it, another 4 series (EDB 30174) carier with it in a box but damaged some other gears, The carier that was in it is a 4 series with the big springs no paint on them, the caps on housing were orange paint marked no color marks on housing, I have it apart now and cleaned up, I need to buy new brake lines and trying to decide if I want to set it up with 4:10's or 3:73's it had 4:88's in it. The info you and Alan have given has been great!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[beater68427]

This was requested posi rebuilt I think those are the correct springs?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/002.jpg

4:88 GM gears by date im guessing they were installed in 70?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/beater059.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/beater057.jpg

[69L72RS]

That looks like a HD offroad unit. It isn't a COPO 234 unit. Those gears appear to be the 17 tooth axle gears and the springs/plates are either 400 or 800 pound preload parts. It also appears to have the notched pin for 5.13+ gears. Hope this helps.

[beater68427]

I sent it out to be rebuilt the internals are new, the other springs looked about the same to me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[69L72RS]

COPO unit.

[beater68427]

Eric, I will have to ask my friend Mike his shop did it I told him it was a heavy duty unit and rebuild it as that I will see if he has the stuff that came out of it, he throws nothing away, the other side of the housing is different than I have seen just a small hole

[beater68427]

Eric, Talked to Mike he said he replaced everything in the case, but it was exact what came out but the cross shaft was notched said it wouldnt be a problem? Also it has a L or E 27 0 is this a date code? if so it fits close to the 4:88 gears could be it was all changed at the same time if so. Also it has a BT stamp on it no clue there????