Winter Granny Project..

[WILMASBOYL78]

I decided to do some cosmetic work to the 69 granny Nova I bought 2 years ago. This is one solid car!!! It had a lot of little dings and scratches that needed attention so I brought it to one of my clients for a "freshening up". They have an "old school" guy there who has done a lot of resto work and he is really enjoying working on this 40 year old survivor. He has gone over the whole car and fixed all the little stuff...he only found one minor rust spot the size of quarter on the lower dogleg of the pass. side front fender. This car was well cared for and certainly wasn't left out in the weather..it should look real nice when we are done. Here are some pics I took today at the shop...we spent sometime going over the car and planning the next step.

wilma

Tim Clemente at Depaula Chevrolet

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384178-tn_IMG_0348.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

I pulled out the back seat and found 2 build sheets...one was the correct one for the car, the other was dated the same day with the same interior...but different body number and paint color. Who said the factory never made a mistake http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

first one in seat bottom...incorrect

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Correct build sheet was in the top half of the back seat http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384181-tn_IMG_0330.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

Lots of little original details...like the inspection mark in the trunk.

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384182-tn_IMG_0350.jpg

[BJCHEV396]

COOL STUFF.THANKS FOR SHARING.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Colored stripe on trunk weather stripping...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Spatter paint in the trunk is really nice...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

other side..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

The floors are beautiful...dry and rust free http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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[WILMASBOYL78]

All the seat belts were marked 15-A-69...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

The interior is so nice in this car...plain jane 731 with a "mint" rubber mat..that may come out for re-sale and get a repro carpet...

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384200-tn_IMG_0343.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

Rear seat area is beautiful...lots of paint splatter http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384201-tn_IMG_0340.jpg

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
I decided to do some cosmetic work to the 69 granny Nova I bought 2 years ago..........we spent sometime going over the car and planning the next step.

wilma

Tim Clemente at Depaula Chevrolet

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384178-tn_IMG_0348.jpg

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Tom, are you going to reshoot the entire car??

[WILMASBOYL78]

Cowl tag..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Masking tape remnant on cowl...I have found this on all of our Novas. I guess it held one of the buildsheets.??

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384206-tn_IMG_0345.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I decided to do some cosmetic work to the 69 granny Nova I bought 2 years ago..........we spent sometime going over the car and planning the next step.

wilma

Tim Clemente at Depaula Chevrolet

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384178-tn_IMG_0348.jpg

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Tom, are you going to reshoot the entire car??

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Yes, I decided that would make the most sense...with so many little areas to work on it doesn't pay not to. I would appreciate any info on paint formula for 69 Olympic Gold...we put the camera on it to get some ideas...but I'm sure some the experts here have some "real info".

[WILMASBOYL78]

The only rust on the whole car was this little spot http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384209-tn_IMG_0319.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

Original jack sticker...I'm pretty sure the spare is the original, too.

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[WILMASBOYL78]

We took the front end apart....bumper, grill, etc. The bumper filler was cracked in a couple places. I'm going to clean and detail front rear bumpers, hardware, etc. and clean and polish all the trim and emblems...everything is in really nice shape...should look when we are done. The hood had 8 or 9 small dings that looked like someone was hitting it with a ball peen hammer, very strange..

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384212-tn_IMG_0317.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

Original documents...POP, owners manual, glove box bag, bill of sale and build sheet...

build sheet reads:

seq:375 04/16 11427 WRN 370840 731 65 B

B80 B84 B90 CRD ZJ3 ZJ5

car has the 250cid 155hp L6, powerglide, full wheel covers, white wall tires,HD battery, am radio, special interior group, exterior decor package, black vinyl top, HD undercoat...sold new at Tremont Chevy in the Bronx. Anybody got a trunk emblem..??

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[WILMASBOYL78]

This car is every thing Jim Ferron said it was...a solid survivor with no rust issues. Good example of a quality transaction with another SYC member http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

This is what it looked like when I got it form Jim.

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384218-69nova.jpg

[drdave69]

Post the info on the other broadcast sheet. You never know, the car may be around.

[WILMASBOYL78]

It wasn't much...just a plain jane L78, bench seat 4 spd http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

ok, not really...seq:366 04/16/69 11427 WRN 3624x3 (rust mark on the 5th digit) 731 40 40

nothing entered in any of the other boxes...strange http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I can see how they made the mistake...same black plain jane interior. So, somewhere another Nova is running around with the bottom half of a back seat meant for this car.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[m22mike]

Tom
Very cool...please leave the rubber mat in the car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

So Tom, What are you going to do with yet ANOTHER nova. A six in a row mind you? You going to wrap this car up in another one of those sleeping bags? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

11:21 PM....Sammy you were up late!!! You should be in bed getting your beauty rest http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif This car hasn't been in the sleeping bag yet....I may sell it come spring or drive it for awhile. Neat old car...very solid. Get a job will ya...maybe they will ahve something for you in the new stimulus package http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

wilma

[Salvatore]

I have a job Tommy.......minding your business! Karen told me to watch out for you lately. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Nobody can buy any of those zip lock sleeping bags for their cars cause you snatch them as quick as they make em! Have a nice SuperBowl day today Tom. Make sure you visit the cars and re tuck them in till Spring! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif P.S. See you down Benny's for dinner some time. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif Sammy

[WILMASBOYL78]

Update on the Granny Project:

Man is thing solid..!!! Took out the front seat and rubber floor mats tonite....only one word "MINT". My guy Tim has removed the rear bumper, tail lights and the b/s moldings. Only have the front fender Nova emblems to go and few other little items...he said it is a pleasure to work on a car where you don't need a 1/2" drive air ratchet to take it apart. The rear bumper bolts came off with a 1/4" air ratchet http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif seat belt bolts were effortless http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif if anyone needs any photos of original stuff for resto let me know...this car is the perfect benchmark for that info.

Tim at work..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Rear area of car...no rust here http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

left side

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Right rear...


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[WILMASBOYL78]

Oh, those beautiful floors http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384826-tn_IMG_0366.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

Solid... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384827-tn_IMG_0367.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

More solid.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Rubber mats removed...part number and logo


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[WILMASBOYL78]

Nice hump.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Willow Run label inside door...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Original jack and hardware...rivet date 9D...plating on the jack is incredible..it still had a factory parts tag string attached....there was some red grease or lube..??.. hardened to the end of the jack hook...never saw this before..Tim said he has seen it on other GM cars..I thought it was rust at first...any input..??

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Spare appears to be original...looked at the back of the wheel and there appears to be orange or red primer under the black paint...any thoughts form the experts. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

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[Xplantdad]

No expert here...but neat stuff Tom! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

Bruce, you are an "expert" in being helpful to all members here...that's enough man http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

Probably the red on the spare tire hook is a coating of some sort so metal to metal would not rust or maybe a squeek deadener.

[CC Rider]

Keep the pics coming. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Thanks.

[m22mike]

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Oh, those beautiful floors http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384826-tn_IMG_0366.jpg

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This a great shot of the "GREEN" ookumpucky that was used @ Willow Run to seal the floor plugs, very different from the Camaro's, kind of spongy too.
Tom, very neat car, and I hijacked a couple of you shots http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Thanks Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Schonyenko2]

"Green ookumpucky" That's a new one. Good description. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[ORIGLS6]

The southern Illinois deviation to the word is 'ickempucky'. My Dad used that term to describe some kind of substance they used at the implement dealer where he worked when I was a little punk (like Frankie). It was a cross between a lubricant and adhesive. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I don't recall what it was used for but my Mother hated the stuff. Stunk to high heaven and was impossible to get out of clothes.

[Nova Jed]

Great stuff Tom!

[1969l78]

I guess its not a survivor anymore http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

The only real survivor around here is ME....never been re-finished...not even a touchup http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

This car lasted 40 years and it will now go another 40 with some fresh paint and detailing. This will be a great grocery getter or platfrom for a V8 clone...I may just drive it this summer to save on gas http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[showyourauto]

[ QUOTE ]
I pulled out the back seat and found 2 build sheets...the other was dated the same day with the same interior...but different body number and paint color. Who said the factory never made a mistake http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

first one in seat bottom...incorrect

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Lots of people, me included. "I want all ALL ORIGINAL, NUMBERS MATCHING, (enter car newb car buyer is obsessed about here), WITH FACTORY BUILD SHEET, cause that is how they ALL are (or they are fake:p)...glad to see you got 2 and one is correct. I have a customer who discovered the entire floor pan of his car covered in discarded build sheets, but not one for HIS car... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif ~Patrick

[427TJ]

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"Green ookumpucky" That's a new one. Good description. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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I always thought it was "gookumpucky."

[1969l78]

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The only real survivor around here is ME....never been re-finished...not even a touchup http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

This car lasted 40 years and it will now go another 40 with some fresh paint and detailing. This will be a great grocery getter or platfrom for a V8 clone...I may just drive it this summer to save on gas http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

You where on that survivor show---I thought that was you. I found your picture http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s240/1969l78/richard-hatch.jpg

[396-375Hp]

That sure looks like a super clean car. Good luck keep us posted.Also very funny. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[kwhizz]

Now that I a Numbers Guy.....I can get involved....LOL....Here a shot of the rear seat pan in my Gold 70.......No overspray like the green car, just Primer and glue.......Just for future reference........when I bought the new Headliner for the car, I just threw it on the floor in the seat riser area......when the Interior guy came over to Install it, the Red adhesive you see in the pic melted thru the Plastic bag "And" the new Headliner......Just a warning.....that stuff is "Potent"

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/70%20Nova/70Nova003.jpg

Ken

[Tommy]

This is the back seat area of my 19,000 mile 68 Nova. I had to take half the car apart to get the rear driver side window back up.... My 5 yr old Nephew decided he wanted some air.... Don't roll down the quarter windows on Novas, no good can come from it.... I didn't lift the padding much to peek under but probably should have... The little white fuzzy stuff is compliments of Mr. mouse...




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Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

Spent a full Saturday working on my little 6 cylinder car...we made lots of progress on getting her cleaned up. Found lots of neat original markings and details...took a few before and after photos.


wilma

Tim and I degreased the engine bay...


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[WILMASBOYL78]

We then put on the lift to inspect and clean the undercarriage...here are some before pics.

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[WILMASBOYL78]

...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

another..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

You can see by those photos the 40 years of gease and grime that was there...we sprayed the bottom with de-greser and then used a pressure washer hooked to hot water. It really helped to get things cleaned up.I bought one of those throw away painters suits...things get a little messy when the grease and water start flying http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Noticed this inspection paint and date stamp on the driver's side front frame...orange paint with a 4-08-69 date stamped upside down.


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[WILMASBOYL78]

Tranny stamp on pass side of trans oil pan...C9D 11 D
This matches the POP....decodes to Powerglide...April 11, 1969...not sure what the extra "D" is for..???


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[WILMASBOYL78]

Rear axle housing assembly stamp...BP 0415 G 2
BP is 2.73 gear set April 15th Detroit Gear & Axle 2nd shift...matches POP...it's a little fuzzy.

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Rear axle casting number #3894859NF GM 10 bolt casting date is D 2 9...April 2nd, 1969.

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Inspection mark (orange) on the pinion nut...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

We spent a little time cleaning the driveshaft and rear shocks...quick paint job and they were ready to re-istall. I didn't find any paint marks on the driveshaft...but it did have a lot of undercoating http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

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[WILMASBOYL78]

We also removed the exhaust system, cleaned it and painted with some Eastwood exhaust paint I had kicking around..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Here are some "after" shots...since this car had HD undercating from the selling dealer we decided to just e-spray some where needed and finish with a nice coat of chassis black paint. It's not a concours job but, it certainly makes the underside look clean and neat. I will probably do a little more detailing to touch up any little things we missed.

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[WILMASBOYL78]

another...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

one more..the work lites give a reddish glow in the photos..??

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[bergy]

Thanks so much for taking the time to share the "freshening up" of your great old Nova. Very educational and cool!

[WILMASBOYL78]

RR brake drum...there was a sticker on the drum with BP letters in red...obviously to signify the axle code. Never saw this before...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Front drum..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Last one...engine cleaned up.

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/387412-tn_IMG_0396.jpg

[kwhizz]

On Ebay.......that would qualify as a Frame Off Restoration..........LOL

Ken

[Salvatore]

Going to paint the subframe and A arms Tom?

[WILMASBOYL78]

Sammy, yes I am. We did some paint work on the lower part of the subframe not shown here...I will probably work on that upper stuff one night this week.

[Mr70]

Nice pics Tom.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Nova Jed]

Cool pics Tom! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

Did some more work tonite...stripped her right down, so I can paint the motor and frame. Boy some of the stuff was very brittle...the temp sending unit fell apart in my hand. PCV hose was so dry rotted it crumbled into little pieces...wire harness clips, same thing..snap!! Overall the stuff is pretty solid...couple of items to repair and refurbish, like the carb (see resto thread). I am going to try the Eastwood Chevy orange engine paint with a brush...we also used a product from SEM called "rustshield"...this stuff is dyanmite, Jason Hale hooked me up with it. We painted the inner fenders, under the hood, back of fenders...and they look beautiful. I'm going to brush it on the sub-frame and paint some other hardware for the car. Here are a couple of pics of the engine bay...just a little more prep and then some paint.

wilma

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[WILMASBOYL78]

another..

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[SuperNovaSS]

RustShield is great stuff. It goes on like frosting. I use it all the time. Looking good Tom!


Jason

[WILMASBOYL78]

Jason, this stuff is really neat...looking forward to seeing the results. What has been your experience with painting over areas that are a little rough...like those control arms you see in the photo..?? Thanks http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[72-SS-L48]

Looking Good Tom! Can't wait to see more pics.

-Dave

[SuperNovaSS]

Tom,


It will fill in some voids if you lay it on thicker. Just go slow and don't reduce it. If you do want to reduce it for certain areas I have used lacquer thinner. It changes the color a bit though. The stuff covers 220 scratches and more so it is pretty forgiving. Just play with it. It is cheap enough that you could resand the areas and reshoot and not kick yourself too hard.


Jason

[jasonL78]

Tom,
I was told to reduce it with xcelyne you can pick it up at any hardware store.But to fill the void's I would just do a couple of coat's. I have used this stuff on all my cars it gives that perfect finish IMO. I usually spray it with my priming gun with a 1.8 tip. The best part about the product is you can touch it up with a paint brush and hardly notice it when it drys. Great for frame's because you get a lot of road chip's when you drive them.

Jason

[WILMASBOYL78]

Well, we did some more work on Saturday afternoon. I finished cleaning the sub-frame and engine and started the painting process. This SEM Rustshield is the BOMB http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif it goes on like butter and really covers the imperfections. I "brushed" it on and when it dries youcan barely tell the difference from spraying. You have to use a good quality brush to get a smooth finish. Next step is to get it back on the lift and paint the bottom overtop of the fresh undercoating and also finish the bottom side of the sub-frame. Then I will start on the engine painting and detailing...Jason Hale was right, this stuff is great!!

wilma


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[WILMASBOYL78]

another..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

one more...

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[WILMASBOYL78]

My friend Tim from Depaula Chevrolet..

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Went to visit Jason Hale this morning....he was kind enough to let me use his blast cabinet to clean some parts for the 69 car. He has a great shop...wilma is jealous http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif


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[WILMASBOYL78]

Original dated starter....1108365 9 C 23

I'm going to clean it and have my local guy give it a check up...


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[WILMASBOYL78]

Original 834 alternator.....9 A 16 we will clean and check this also.


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